This reminds me of this Japanese fork I had a long time back. I am trying to remember the name of it. It was total air...
This reminds me of this Japanese fork I had a long time back. I am trying to remember the name of it. It was total air and adjustable from 160mm to 100mm externally. It was all milled out just like this one and it rode really smooth. If I can remember the name or find a photo I'll post it up
Yes that proto was sitting on display at the old building. Aluminum 3 piece lowers glued together. Could be a way to manufacture lower quantities? ...
Yes that proto was sitting on display at the old building. Aluminum 3 piece lowers glued together. Could be a way to manufacture lower quantities?
Lots cheaper and faster than prototyping with a casting tool.
Intend screw the arch onto the lowers from the inside on the Blackline Ebonite fork from what I managed to gather. The dropouts are also an add-on to the outers tubes, so the outers themselves are probably turned from a bar/tube stock.
Has anyone heard anything about Conti releasing a soft or super-soft tire w/ their trail casing? @iceman2058 mentioned it in the comments here (from Eurobike) it's been crickets since then.
Has anyone heard anything about Conti releasing a soft or super-soft tire w/ their trail casing? @iceman2058 mentioned it in the comments here (from Eurobike) it's...
Has anyone heard anything about Conti releasing a soft or super-soft tire w/ their trail casing? @iceman2058 mentioned it in the comments here (from Eurobike) it's been crickets since then.
I’m meant to be receiving some for testing but not sure when exactly…hopefully soon!
Reading the article, I was so tempted to consider it for my Ripmo AF once the DVO Topaz inevitably goes kaput (perfect conditions really - I'm a light rider and the bike has a clevis mount and less progressive suspension) and would even take the weight penalty on what's already a 36lb bike, but man that $900 price without a spring or hardware would be tough to swallow on my 'budget' build. I think this is a great solution for people with deep wallets, as long as the damping holds up to the likes of EXT, Fast, Öhlins, and the rest of that $1000+ space.
Reading the article, I was so tempted to consider it for my Ripmo AF once the DVO Topaz inevitably goes kaput (perfect conditions really - I'm...
Reading the article, I was so tempted to consider it for my Ripmo AF once the DVO Topaz inevitably goes kaput (perfect conditions really - I'm a light rider and the bike has a clevis mount and less progressive suspension) and would even take the weight penalty on what's already a 36lb bike, but man that $900 price without a spring or hardware would be tough to swallow on my 'budget' build. I think this is a great solution for people with deep wallets, as long as the damping holds up to the likes of EXT, Fast, Öhlins, and the rest of that $1000+ space.
If you can wait until they start hitting the used market I bet you can find a price that'll work
Has anyone heard anything about Conti releasing a soft or super-soft tire w/ their trail casing? @iceman2058 mentioned it in the comments here (from Eurobike) it's...
Has anyone heard anything about Conti releasing a soft or super-soft tire w/ their trail casing? @iceman2058 mentioned it in the comments here (from Eurobike) it's been crickets since then.
UK Distributor was quoting new year for Enduro casing in supersoft
New bike from Transition it's a steel hardtail.
https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/transition-bikes-relaunches-transam (edited to vital link b/c that yahoo sports link did weird things -spomer)
Well this looks sweet. Perhaps my Sherpa replacement has finally arrived. Wish HTA was one degree steeper, yes steeper, but I know I’m a Luddite in the minority. But with ability to spec at 140 might be just right
New bike from Transition it's a steel hardtail.
https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/transition-bikes-relaunches-transam (edited to vital link b/c that yahoo sports link did weird things -spomer)
With this new, overly complex, heavy, and expensive Cane Creek shock, I'm curious why we don't see two stage springs in mountain biking, like this:
From my experience, progressive coils shouldn't be about bottom out resistance, but a lighter top-out. With either a reverse-progressively wound coil, or just using two coils, I feel shock performance would be best with a softer spring rate until a little past sag, then a heavier coil weight for the rest of the travel. An oversized elastomer bottom-out bumper (thats designed appropriately so it doesn't reduce travel) seems to be the cheapest, easiest, and lightest way to get better bottom out resistance. The Cane Creek has to run such massive high speed rebound that they had to dump the external adjustment for it.
These look kinda like helper springs (the weird part is that they are round though). Helper springs are not there to be progressive, they are there to prevent the spring from flying around on full extension when you put massively stiff springs on a car that otherwise uses softer springs.
With this new, overly complex, heavy, and expensive Cane Creek shock, I'm curious why we don't see two stage springs in mountain biking, like this:
From...
With this new, overly complex, heavy, and expensive Cane Creek shock, I'm curious why we don't see two stage springs in mountain biking, like this:
From my experience, progressive coils shouldn't be about bottom out resistance, but a lighter top-out. With either a reverse-progressively wound coil, or just using two coils, I feel shock performance would be best with a softer spring rate until a little past sag, then a heavier coil weight for the rest of the travel. An oversized elastomer bottom-out bumper (thats designed appropriately so it doesn't reduce travel) seems to be the cheapest, easiest, and lightest way to get better bottom out resistance. The Cane Creek has to run such massive high speed rebound that they had to dump the external adjustment for it.
Dude, the best way to do rear shock is linear spring and sorted kinematics, everything else is band aid to poorly designed frames and/or marketing BS to sell new stuff. Good kinematics do all you mentioned without adding weight and complexity and allow the spring rate change to work in harmony with damping. Not to mention related cost issues for absolutely zero added benefit...Cars need very different suspension setup, as primoz mentioned, when you run stiff enough springs to support heavy cars in the high G corners and add high ground effect on real race cars to it, you can either use very little (or even zero) droop setup (droop has pretty much the same meaning as sag on MTB, with same drawback of not enough negative travel) or get helper springs to keep enough preload on the main spring to prevent them from rattling around when the car is unweighted. Give it a rest already ffs.
With this new, overly complex, heavy, and expensive Cane Creek shock, I'm curious why we don't see two stage springs in mountain biking, like this:
From...
With this new, overly complex, heavy, and expensive Cane Creek shock, I'm curious why we don't see two stage springs in mountain biking, like this:
From my experience, progressive coils shouldn't be about bottom out resistance, but a lighter top-out. With either a reverse-progressively wound coil, or just using two coils, I feel shock performance would be best with a softer spring rate until a little past sag, then a heavier coil weight for the rest of the travel. An oversized elastomer bottom-out bumper (thats designed appropriately so it doesn't reduce travel) seems to be the cheapest, easiest, and lightest way to get better bottom out resistance. The Cane Creek has to run such massive high speed rebound that they had to dump the external adjustment for it.
Dude, the best way to do rear shock is linear spring and sorted kinematics, everything else is band aid to poorly designed frames and/or marketing BS...
Dude, the best way to do rear shock is linear spring and sorted kinematics, everything else is band aid to poorly designed frames and/or marketing BS to sell new stuff. Good kinematics do all you mentioned without adding weight and complexity and allow the spring rate change to work in harmony with damping. Not to mention related cost issues for absolutely zero added benefit...Cars need very different suspension setup, as primoz mentioned, when you run stiff enough springs to support heavy cars in the high G corners and add high ground effect on real race cars to it, you can either use very little (or even zero) droop setup (droop has pretty much the same meaning as sag on MTB, with same drawback of not enough negative travel) or get helper springs to keep enough preload on the main spring to prevent them from rattling around when the car is unweighted. Give it a rest already ffs.
Whether out of naivety or preference, I personally disagree. I think more linear kinematics with a good long stroke shock that can be set up any which way you want is the ideal scenario for me.
The problem is that the ideal setup for each person is subjective (despite what engineering and science says) and if the control is baked into the kinematics, you are stuck with that whether you like it or not.
I do also agree that many shocks on the market also aren’t up to the task of fully controlling things, but that’s another story.
The frame designer needs to worry about flex and geo and space for water bottles etc. if they can just make a more linear design (not completely linear) that doesn’t rely on the shock as a structural member, then they can let the suspension engineers actually do their job instead of having to work around the multiples of kak frame designs that are mostly different just for the sake of marketing and patents.
New bike from Transition it's a steel hardtail.
https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/transition-bikes-relaunches-transam (edited to vital link b/c that yahoo sports link did weird things -spomer)
Looks good, very similar Geo to the Norco torrent which is such a fun bike to ride. Love mine, I am blown away with the wild stuff you can ride on these modern HT's
Yes that proto was sitting on display at the old building. Aluminum 3 piece lowers glued together. Could be a way to manufacture lower quantities?
Lots cheaper and faster than prototyping with a casting tool.
YES! that's it!!
FWIW, that ND Tuned fork not only looks glued together, but the arch with seal seats look 3D printed.
Intend screw the arch onto the lowers from the inside on the Blackline Ebonite fork from what I managed to gather. The dropouts are also an add-on to the outers tubes, so the outers themselves are probably turned from a bar/tube stock.
Has anyone heard anything about Conti releasing a soft or super-soft tire w/ their trail casing? @iceman2058 mentioned it in the comments here (from Eurobike) it's been crickets since then.
I’m meant to be receiving some for testing but not sure when exactly…hopefully soon!
Finally DH grade rubber coming to lighter duty casings?
Reading the article, I was so tempted to consider it for my Ripmo AF once the DVO Topaz inevitably goes kaput (perfect conditions really - I'm a light rider and the bike has a clevis mount and less progressive suspension) and would even take the weight penalty on what's already a 36lb bike, but man that $900 price without a spring or hardware would be tough to swallow on my 'budget' build. I think this is a great solution for people with deep wallets, as long as the damping holds up to the likes of EXT, Fast, Öhlins, and the rest of that $1000+ space.
If you can wait until they start hitting the used market I bet you can find a price that'll work
That’d be great. I have a set of trail Kryptotals on my hardtail. Good tread pattern, the compound is pretty hard though
UK Distributor was quoting new year for Enduro casing in supersoft
Transition teasing something, some thought it’s a new HT, perhaps a Alu smuggler?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzHJI19R0MY/?igshid=MXRtcG03aWM5MXpnZg==
TransAM?
Without doubt a hardtail from watching it being ridden…
Bottlerocket?
Bring back the Klunker!
Syren. My wife loved hers. In the process of rebuilding it for her or one of our kids to ride.
Ya that’s definitely a hard tail
Yes, a Vanquish updated with the modern ID that all the other Transitions have.
Any sense of the HTA?
there already is an alu smuggler, just not available as frameset only.
New bike from Transition it's a steel hardtail.
https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/transition-bikes-relaunches… (edited to vital link b/c that yahoo sports link did weird things -spomer)
Well this looks sweet. Perhaps my Sherpa replacement has finally arrived. Wish HTA was one degree steeper, yes steeper, but I know I’m a Luddite in the minority. But with ability to spec at 140 might be just right
The Trans Am is back Baby!
Word on the street is we are going to see an E-Slash next year running the motor similar to the fuel.
With this new, overly complex, heavy, and expensive Cane Creek shock, I'm curious why we don't see two stage springs in mountain biking, like this:
From my experience, progressive coils shouldn't be about bottom out resistance, but a lighter top-out. With either a reverse-progressively wound coil, or just using two coils, I feel shock performance would be best with a softer spring rate until a little past sag, then a heavier coil weight for the rest of the travel. An oversized elastomer bottom-out bumper (thats designed appropriately so it doesn't reduce travel) seems to be the cheapest, easiest, and lightest way to get better bottom out resistance. The Cane Creek has to run such massive high speed rebound that they had to dump the external adjustment for it.
These look kinda like helper springs (the weird part is that they are round though). Helper springs are not there to be progressive, they are there to prevent the spring from flying around on full extension when you put massively stiff springs on a car that otherwise uses softer springs.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkkALfh-59Q
Dude, the best way to do rear shock is linear spring and sorted kinematics, everything else is band aid to poorly designed frames and/or marketing BS to sell new stuff. Good kinematics do all you mentioned without adding weight and complexity and allow the spring rate change to work in harmony with damping. Not to mention related cost issues for absolutely zero added benefit...Cars need very different suspension setup, as primoz mentioned, when you run stiff enough springs to support heavy cars in the high G corners and add high ground effect on real race cars to it, you can either use very little (or even zero) droop setup (droop has pretty much the same meaning as sag on MTB, with same drawback of not enough negative travel) or get helper springs to keep enough preload on the main spring to prevent them from rattling around when the car is unweighted. Give it a rest already ffs.
Whether out of naivety or preference, I personally disagree. I think more linear kinematics with a good long stroke shock that can be set up any which way you want is the ideal scenario for me.
The problem is that the ideal setup for each person is subjective (despite what engineering and science says) and if the control is baked into the kinematics, you are stuck with that whether you like it or not.
I do also agree that many shocks on the market also aren’t up to the task of fully controlling things, but that’s another story.
The frame designer needs to worry about flex and geo and space for water bottles etc. if they can just make a more linear design (not completely linear) that doesn’t rely on the shock as a structural member, then they can let the suspension engineers actually do their job instead of having to work around the multiples of kak frame designs that are mostly different just for the sake of marketing and patents.
but that’s just my opinion 🤷🏻♂️
Looks good, very similar Geo to the Norco torrent which is such a fun bike to ride. Love mine, I am blown away with the wild stuff you can ride on these modern HT's