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9/19/2023 6:27am Edited Date/Time 9/19/2023 6:34am

Any talk on when and what the new Mondraker Superfoxy update will be??

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Hope it's not just a longer stroke Foxy with an angel set.

Not the Superfoxy but on their bike comparison you can already see their new e-bike replacing possibly the Dusk or Crafty with Shimano 801 motor and the similar trough the seatpost lower link which they first featured on the NEAT. There is also a kids bike on there at the moment similar frame to NEAT and new PodiumIMG 6468

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Not sure if this has been discussed, but DVO has a new 38mm stanchion Onyx coming out soon.

 

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Losifer wrote:
Not sure if this has been discussed, but DVO has a new 38mm stanchion Onyx coming out soon.  

Not sure if this has been discussed, but DVO has a new 38mm stanchion Onyx coming out soon.

 

051CFE54-D231-4D53-8151-C7CF3A16BEA1

Pretty sure its going to be the exact same as the current onyx just stiffer and thick stanctions 

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9/19/2023 7:38am
dylanjp006 wrote:

Pretty sure its going to be the exact same as the current onyx just stiffer and thick stanctions 

Just like a durolux 38

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was this lapierre posted in here yet? from chatel

20230916 UCI EDR WorldCUp Chatel Z4A062420230916 UCI EDR WorldCUp Chatel Z4A0652

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9/19/2023 8:05am Edited Date/Time 9/19/2023 12:36pm
sspomer wrote:
was this lapierre posted in here yet? from chatel

was this lapierre posted in here yet? from chatel

20230916 UCI EDR WorldCUp Chatel Z4A062420230916 UCI EDR WorldCUp Chatel Z4A0652

Yep, dropper (in)compatibility debate ensued few pages back.

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ahh. thanks @Jakub_G

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9/19/2023 10:10am
Losifer wrote:
Not sure if this has been discussed, but DVO has a new 38mm stanchion Onyx coming out soon.  

Not sure if this has been discussed, but DVO has a new 38mm stanchion Onyx coming out soon.

 

051CFE54-D231-4D53-8151-C7CF3A16BEA1

They teased it at Sea Otter this last year in both a gray lower that I think looks pretty sweet, and the standard black. 

https://bikerumor.com/dvo-onyx-38-enduro-fork-almost-ready-garnet-2-dro…

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9/19/2023 10:16am

When’s a new ripmo coming out?

Trocko wrote:

Soon

Come on, tell us more? Which month? Any closer info?

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9/19/2023 10:45am
Losifer wrote:
Not sure if this has been discussed, but DVO has a new 38mm stanchion Onyx coming out soon.  

Not sure if this has been discussed, but DVO has a new 38mm stanchion Onyx coming out soon.

 

051CFE54-D231-4D53-8151-C7CF3A16BEA1

dylanjp006 wrote:

Pretty sure its going to be the exact same as the current onyx just stiffer and thick stanctions 

Think I read somewhere that they were getting rid of the OTT? Could be wrong but from personal experience that would make them work a lot better for lighter riders, and also hopefully improve reliability too. Also @Jakub_G they look completely different to any of Suntour's offerings, its only the DVO shocks that share parts with some Suntour stuff as far as I am aware?

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9/19/2023 11:00am
Losifer wrote:
Not sure if this has been discussed, but DVO has a new 38mm stanchion Onyx coming out soon.  

Not sure if this has been discussed, but DVO has a new 38mm stanchion Onyx coming out soon.

 

051CFE54-D231-4D53-8151-C7CF3A16BEA1

dylanjp006 wrote:

Pretty sure its going to be the exact same as the current onyx just stiffer and thick stanctions 

samdaman1 wrote:
Think I read somewhere that they were getting rid of the OTT? Could be wrong but from personal experience that would make them work a lot...

Think I read somewhere that they were getting rid of the OTT? Could be wrong but from personal experience that would make them work a lot better for lighter riders, and also hopefully improve reliability too. Also @Jakub_G they look completely different to any of Suntour's offerings, its only the DVO shocks that share parts with some Suntour stuff as far as I am aware?

The D1 model will have the OTT coil. There's going to be an SL upgrade option which removes the OTT but adds an air chamber.

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dylanjp006 wrote:

Pretty sure its going to be the exact same as the current onyx just stiffer and thick stanctions 

samdaman1 wrote:
Think I read somewhere that they were getting rid of the OTT? Could be wrong but from personal experience that would make them work a lot...

Think I read somewhere that they were getting rid of the OTT? Could be wrong but from personal experience that would make them work a lot better for lighter riders, and also hopefully improve reliability too. Also @Jakub_G they look completely different to any of Suntour's offerings, its only the DVO shocks that share parts with some Suntour stuff as far as I am aware?

The D1 model will have the OTT coil. There's going to be an SL upgrade option which removes the OTT but adds an air chamber.

Ahh that's it, I'd be interested to see how they use the secondary air chamber compared to Manitou and Ohlins, etc

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samdaman1 wrote:
Think I read somewhere that they were getting rid of the OTT? Could be wrong but from personal experience that would make them work a lot...

Think I read somewhere that they were getting rid of the OTT? Could be wrong but from personal experience that would make them work a lot better for lighter riders, and also hopefully improve reliability too. Also @Jakub_G they look completely different to any of Suntour's offerings, its only the DVO shocks that share parts with some Suntour stuff as far as I am aware?

The D1 model will have the OTT coil. There's going to be an SL upgrade option which removes the OTT but adds an air chamber.

samdaman1 wrote:

Ahh that's it, I'd be interested to see how they use the secondary air chamber compared to Manitou and Ohlins, etc

It's a self-equalizing positive/negative with a dimple like Fox, RS, etc.

 

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Screen Shot 2023-09-19 at 11.27.21 AM 2.png?VersionId=LdOt.No new Stumpy Evo for at least a couple of months. Just saw this on a computer. Same stumpy Sad

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9/19/2023 1:51pm

There’s still a lot of models and sizes in stock on their blowout sale…. Guessing they are still sitting on too much stock to release new models if they’re even ready.

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WhoKnows wrote:
No new Stumpy Evo for at least a couple of months. Just saw this on a computer. Same stumpy :(

Screen Shot 2023-09-19 at 11.27.21 AM 2.png?VersionId=LdOt.No new Stumpy Evo for at least a couple of months. Just saw this on a computer. Same stumpy Sad

2024. Enduro 2025. 

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9/19/2023 3:50pm Edited Date/Time 9/19/2023 3:59pm

I saw a guy promoting Lewis Bike brakes on several Facebook groups.

They have a website now.

lewisbike.com

The 4 piston brake:

It might look familiar, as Trickstuff has a similar design, but there are some differences, improvements. They have bite reach and bite point adjustment.

I've asked why they don't offer grip holes at the lever blade, the answer I got was:

''We thought that would make the blade not strong enough.''
Also I've been told they offer spare parts.
 
 
 

Cut out of lever body:

 

 

They also have a trails/xc brake:
 

Flat mount calipers to:

 

 

 
 
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9/19/2023 3:57pm

Anyone know the Rocky Instinct/Altitude embargo date?

bump...eagerly awaiting this one

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9/19/2023 4:01pm
nicompr wrote:
New Lapierre Spicy 

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New Lapierre Spicy 

That's a freeride bike, awful suspension, seat tube design, as it does not allow long insertion depth.

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9/19/2023 6:47pm

I can't wait for the next gen Epic Evo, no idea when it comes out but heard somewhere in 2024...

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It's a little harder to make out since it's upside down and from the non-drive side, but to me it looks like the lower pivot (when...

It's a little harder to make out since it's upside down and from the non-drive side, but to me it looks like the lower pivot (when right side up) has been raised above the chainring, judging by the elevation of the chainstays relative to the BB. Sure looks like a successor to me.

That bike is configured exactly like the new Sight and Optic. High pivot Horst. 

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9/19/2023 8:23pm Edited Date/Time 9/19/2023 8:23pm

Anyone know the Rocky Instinct/Altitude embargo date?

bermed wrote:

bump...eagerly awaiting this one

Little birdy may have said Q1 2024. I won't tell you exactly when, but hope that at least holds you over. 

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9/19/2023 8:35pm

I can't wait for the next gen Epic Evo, no idea when it comes out but heard somewhere in 2024...

Really hope they offer it in S6 or XXL but I won’t hold my breath Sad  

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9/19/2023 9:47pm

scrap that post... it was an old one

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mtbboy1993 wrote:
I saw a guy promoting Lewis Bike brakes on several Facebook groups. They have a website now. lewisbike.com The 4 piston brake: It might look familiar...

I saw a guy promoting Lewis Bike brakes on several Facebook groups.

They have a website now.

lewisbike.com

The 4 piston brake:

It might look familiar, as Trickstuff has a similar design, but there are some differences, improvements. They have bite reach and bite point adjustment.

I've asked why they don't offer grip holes at the lever blade, the answer I got was:

''We thought that would make the blade not strong enough.''
Also I've been told they offer spare parts.
 
 
 

Cut out of lever body:

 

 

They also have a trails/xc brake:
 

Flat mount calipers to:

 

 

 
 

A friend of mine tried them out, has been so impressed with them he bought 10 sets to infect other people with them too Smile

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It's a little harder to make out since it's upside down and from the non-drive side, but to me it looks like the lower pivot (when...

It's a little harder to make out since it's upside down and from the non-drive side, but to me it looks like the lower pivot (when right side up) has been raised above the chainring, judging by the elevation of the chainstays relative to the BB. Sure looks like a successor to me.

That bike is configured exactly like the new Sight and Optic. High pivot Horst. 

So a short travel Shore

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9/20/2023 2:50am Edited Date/Time 9/20/2023 2:54am
mtbboy1993 wrote:
I saw a guy promoting Lewis Bike brakes on several Facebook groups. They have a website now. lewisbike.com The 4 piston brake: It might look familiar...

I saw a guy promoting Lewis Bike brakes on several Facebook groups.

They have a website now.

lewisbike.com

The 4 piston brake:

It might look familiar, as Trickstuff has a similar design, but there are some differences, improvements. They have bite reach and bite point adjustment.

I've asked why they don't offer grip holes at the lever blade, the answer I got was:

''We thought that would make the blade not strong enough.''
Also I've been told they offer spare parts.
 
 
 

Cut out of lever body:

 

 

They also have a trails/xc brake:
 

Flat mount calipers to:

 

 

 
 
Primoz wrote:

A friend of mine tried them out, has been so impressed with them he bought 10 sets to infect other people with them too Smile

These are just rebranded generic Chinese brakes. They are all over AliExpress, sold with different brands, such as Zrace, Onirii, etc.

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOU2Hma

 

You can pay 300+ bucks a piece for something sold for ~110 a set just for the brand, but it's up to you.

 

Screenshot 20230920-065250-009

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mtbboy1993 wrote:
I saw a guy promoting Lewis Bike brakes on several Facebook groups. They have a website now. lewisbike.com The 4 piston brake: It might look familiar...

I saw a guy promoting Lewis Bike brakes on several Facebook groups.

They have a website now.

lewisbike.com

The 4 piston brake:

It might look familiar, as Trickstuff has a similar design, but there are some differences, improvements. They have bite reach and bite point adjustment.

I've asked why they don't offer grip holes at the lever blade, the answer I got was:

''We thought that would make the blade not strong enough.''
Also I've been told they offer spare parts.
 
 
 

Cut out of lever body:

 

 

They also have a trails/xc brake:
 

Flat mount calipers to:

 

 

 
 
Primoz wrote:

A friend of mine tried them out, has been so impressed with them he bought 10 sets to infect other people with them too Smile

slimshady wrote:
These are just rebranded generic Chinese brakes. They are all over AliExpress, sold with different brands, such as Zrace, Onirii, etc. https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOU2Hma   You can pay...

These are just rebranded generic Chinese brakes. They are all over AliExpress, sold with different brands, such as Zrace, Onirii, etc.

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOU2Hma

 

You can pay 300+ bucks a piece for something sold for ~110 a set just for the brand, but it's up to you.

 

Screenshot 20230920-065250-009

Nope, completely different. Said friend has both variants in use actually Wink

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Primoz wrote:

A friend of mine tried them out, has been so impressed with them he bought 10 sets to infect other people with them too Smile

slimshady wrote:
These are just rebranded generic Chinese brakes. They are all over AliExpress, sold with different brands, such as Zrace, Onirii, etc. https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOU2Hma   You can pay...

These are just rebranded generic Chinese brakes. They are all over AliExpress, sold with different brands, such as Zrace, Onirii, etc.

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOU2Hma

 

You can pay 300+ bucks a piece for something sold for ~110 a set just for the brand, but it's up to you.

 

Screenshot 20230920-065250-009

Primoz wrote:

Nope, completely different. Said friend has both variants in use actually Wink

They source each model from a different supplier. And while the 4-pot ones might not have the Hope style calipers as the ones I screenshot, if you look around in AliExpress you'll find the exact same lever/caliper combination.

 

Also, their webpage having a big "product" button right at the top is a major indicator they are either a Chinese company or working with a Chinese designer, since that's their default webpage layout.

 

Don't get me wrong, I know a guy here who bought the 4-pot set from Zrace and has been really happy with them in his trail bike. Also, if you go to MTBR you'll find an entire thread of people completely satisfied with them. I'm just pointing out the Lewis branded ones are priced to look premium when you can find them for way less money if you dig a little more (taking a walk down Chinertown.com for instance).

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