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luisgutrod
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9/11/2023 11:05am

I just put a set of 11sp XT linkglide shifter ,derailleur and cassette on my enduro bike. the shifting is unreal. Never felt shifting so precise and crisp (I have only used shimano's XT/XTR).. I tried for science using conventional shimano 11sp cassette, did not work... I knew shifter/derailleur work on a different pull, but the cassette is also part of the magic.

anyway, just a heads up in the era of "transmission" ; )

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9/11/2023 12:19pm Edited Date/Time 9/11/2023 12:21pm
samdaman1 wrote:
Don't think I've seen it be mentioned before, but a lot of riders sponsored by YT have been running the new Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate on...

Don't think I've seen it be mentioned before, but a lot of riders sponsored by YT have been running the new Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate on the Tues, even though they're built around a 267x89 shock rather than the metric sizing that all of the newest Rockshox shocks use. I'm assuming its a custom item that Rockshox are producing for YT just because they want sponsored riders to be using their latest and greatest tech rather than the now decade old Vivid (although Johann Potgieter was on one at Worlds), but it got me thinking, are there any other current bikes that are still using imperial shock sizing and therefore be due an update so they're compatible with all of the shocks that are only available in metric sizing? 

The 27,5 Tues has 267x89 and the 29er has 250x75.

IMG 6232.png?VersionId=K51FNosAtp

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samdaman1
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9/11/2023 2:06pm
samdaman1 wrote:
Don't think I've seen it be mentioned before, but a lot of riders sponsored by YT have been running the new Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate on...

Don't think I've seen it be mentioned before, but a lot of riders sponsored by YT have been running the new Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate on the Tues, even though they're built around a 267x89 shock rather than the metric sizing that all of the newest Rockshox shocks use. I'm assuming its a custom item that Rockshox are producing for YT just because they want sponsored riders to be using their latest and greatest tech rather than the now decade old Vivid (although Johann Potgieter was on one at Worlds), but it got me thinking, are there any other current bikes that are still using imperial shock sizing and therefore be due an update so they're compatible with all of the shocks that are only available in metric sizing? 

The 27,5 Tues has 267x89 and the 29er has 250x75.

The 27,5 Tues has 267x89 and the 29er has 250x75.

IMG 6232.png?VersionId=K51FNosAtp

I genuinely had not spotted this, thanks! 

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Losifer
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9/11/2023 5:03pm

Specialized new product launch tomorrow. Someone has told be 3 new bikes, but wouldn't say if that's different models. 

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dolface
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9/11/2023 6:13pm

From the other site, Luca said he ran a proto Maxxis on the front at Les Gets, and Roger Viera was on a Kenda Double Black (proto) in the rear

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TannerVal
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9/11/2023 6:22pm
dolface wrote:
From the other site, Luca said he ran a proto Maxxis on the front at Les Gets, and Roger Viera was on a Kenda Double Black...

From the other site, Luca said he ran a proto Maxxis on the front at Les Gets, and Roger Viera was on a Kenda Double Black (proto) in the rear

IMG 1599I remember seeing or hearing something about this tire earlier this year. Basically a shorty with more supportive cornering knobs and maybe slightly shorter center tread. Anyone that’s run a shorty knows how unpredictable they can get in big compressions when cornering.

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TayRob
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9/11/2023 7:04pm
Losifer wrote:

Specialized new product launch tomorrow. Someone has told be 3 new bikes, but wouldn't say if that's different models. 

It will be drop bar stuff.

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TimBud
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9/11/2023 10:06pm

Yeah just the new Roubaix

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9/12/2023 5:41am Edited Date/Time 9/12/2023 5:42am

2024 Instinct/Altitude seems to look like a Santa Cruz clone

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matmattmatthew
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9/12/2023 7:23am

I have to admit, the "companies are making regular bikes look more like e-bikes so the e-bikes look more like regular bikes" conspiracy theorists just got a little more ammunition with the release of the Heckler SL.  

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9/12/2023 8:20am
I have to admit, the "companies are making regular bikes look more like e-bikes so the e-bikes look more like regular bikes" conspiracy theorists just got...

I have to admit, the "companies are making regular bikes look more like e-bikes so the e-bikes look more like regular bikes" conspiracy theorists just got a little more ammunition with the release of the Heckler SL.  

I was thinking that when I recently tried putting a strap around my buddy's Bronson on the back of my truck. The straps on the tailgate pad weren't long enough to get it to velcro back onto itself around the massive downtube. I immediately thought that it was so they didn't have to make new molds to go SL emtb.

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One Ghost
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9/12/2023 8:29am
cprnc wrote:
2024 Instinct/Altitude seems to look like a Santa Cruz clone

2024 Instinct/Altitude seems to look like a Santa Cruz clone

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Kind of looks like a Knucklebox link on the seat tube also. Hard to tell where it connects to though. 

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9/12/2023 10:19am Edited Date/Time 9/12/2023 10:32am
Losifer wrote:

Specialized new product launch tomorrow. Someone has told be 3 new bikes, but wouldn't say if that's different models. 

Enduro won't be released until Crankworx (Whistler) is what I've heard. STEVO after that.

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9/12/2023 10:39am

Enduro won't be released until Crankworx (Whistler) is what I've heard. STEVO after that.

Lol you mean 10-11 months from now? No way. 
Only possible with the Enduro if they pulled the plug on the bike they were about to launch to go back to drawing board to re-design it to match the prototype design Finn and Loic are racing on.  The SJEvo on the other hand is already baked in to match the ebike they dropped a few months back. 

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samlr
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9/12/2023 11:45am

Enduro won't be released until Crankworx (Whistler) is what I've heard. STEVO after that.

Lol you mean 10-11 months from now? No way.  Only possible with the Enduro if they pulled the plug on the bike they were about to...

Lol you mean 10-11 months from now? No way. 
Only possible with the Enduro if they pulled the plug on the bike they were about to launch to go back to drawing board to re-design it to match the prototype design Finn and Loic are racing on.  The SJEvo on the other hand is already baked in to match the ebike they dropped a few months back. 

Or maybe too much inventory and need to get rid of it before releasing new product.

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9/12/2023 11:48am
samlr wrote:

Or maybe too much inventory and need to get rid of it before releasing new product.

They've been doing that for over a year now. 

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9/12/2023 12:23pm

I actually created an account just to post this. Santa Cruz syndicate tent at Les Gets last weekend.IMG 20230909 163007 IMG 20230909 163047.jpg?VersionId=ejazVJV0650sHfh2YLAD5ekgu7L

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ahleic09
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9/12/2023 12:24pm
cprnc wrote:
2024 Instinct/Altitude seems to look like a Santa Cruz clone

2024 Instinct/Altitude seems to look like a Santa Cruz clone

IMG_2320.png

Screen Shot 2023-09-12 at 3.22.26 PM.png?VersionId=ayB0qtGSpPVI4J4Reminds me of something from the archives, whats next a new ETSX?

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Simcik
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9/12/2023 12:57pm
I actually created an account just to post this. Santa Cruz syndicate tent at Les Gets last weekend. 

I actually created an account just to post this. Santa Cruz syndicate tent at Les Gets last weekend.IMG 20230909 163007 IMG 20230909 163047.jpg?VersionId=ejazVJV0650sHfh2YLAD5ekgu7L

Solid find, first post, and welcome.

Definitely a good looking tire for loose conditions

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9/12/2023 4:01pm
cprnc wrote:
2024 Instinct/Altitude seems to look like a Santa Cruz clone

2024 Instinct/Altitude seems to look like a Santa Cruz clone

IMG_2320.png

Say goodbye to your seatpost insertion! 

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Dave_Camp
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9/12/2023 5:41pm
I actually created an account just to post this. Santa Cruz syndicate tent at Les Gets last weekend. 

I actually created an account just to post this. Santa Cruz syndicate tent at Les Gets last weekend.IMG 20230909 163007 IMG 20230909 163047.jpg?VersionId=ejazVJV0650sHfh2YLAD5ekgu7L

Maxxis Mary

 

looks good

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thegromit
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9/12/2023 7:21pm
I actually created an account just to post this. Santa Cruz syndicate tent at Les Gets last weekend. 

I actually created an account just to post this. Santa Cruz syndicate tent at Les Gets last weekend.IMG 20230909 163007 IMG 20230909 163047.jpg?VersionId=ejazVJV0650sHfh2YLAD5ekgu7L

Dave_Camp wrote:

Maxxis Mary

 

looks good

Looks like a WTB verdict 

 

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9/12/2023 9:07pm

Enduro won't be released until Crankworx (Whistler) is what I've heard. STEVO after that.

Lol you mean 10-11 months from now? No way.  Only possible with the Enduro if they pulled the plug on the bike they were about to...

Lol you mean 10-11 months from now? No way. 
Only possible with the Enduro if they pulled the plug on the bike they were about to launch to go back to drawing board to re-design it to match the prototype design Finn and Loic are racing on.  The SJEvo on the other hand is already baked in to match the ebike they dropped a few months back. 

the big 3 have a lot of inventory to go through.....

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metadave
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9/12/2023 9:16pm

It's not really like that older slayer and it's not really vpp is all I'll say. Seatpost shouldn't be any worse than any other current bike with low mounted shocks like a Specialized or Santa Cruz.

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bermed
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9/12/2023 9:27pm
metadave wrote:
It's not really like that older slayer and it's not really vpp is all I'll say. Seatpost shouldn't be any worse than any other current bike...

It's not really like that older slayer and it's not really vpp is all I'll say. Seatpost shouldn't be any worse than any other current bike with low mounted shocks like a Specialized or Santa Cruz.

When's that embargo over?

9/12/2023 9:45pm

Could this be the new enduro? img 1 1694580005843.jpg?VersionId=y

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9/12/2023 9:53pm
Could this be the new enduro? 

Could this be the new enduro? img 1 1694580005843.jpg?VersionId=y

Looks like the current model no?

9/12/2023 9:55pm
Could this be the new enduro? 

Could this be the new enduro? img 1 1694580005843.jpg?VersionId=y

Looks like the current model no?

I thought so but the color and writing on the downtime aren't the same, right? I also was co.paring the suspension link to the cascade and it looked a bit different.  I could be wrong. On the custom bike co Facebook page.

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Landjonz
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9/13/2023 2:06am
samdaman1 wrote:
Don't think I've seen it be mentioned before, but a lot of riders sponsored by YT have been running the new Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate on...

Don't think I've seen it be mentioned before, but a lot of riders sponsored by YT have been running the new Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate on the Tues, even though they're built around a 267x89 shock rather than the metric sizing that all of the newest Rockshox shocks use. I'm assuming its a custom item that Rockshox are producing for YT just because they want sponsored riders to be using their latest and greatest tech rather than the now decade old Vivid (although Johann Potgieter was on one at Worlds), but it got me thinking, are there any other current bikes that are still using imperial shock sizing and therefore be due an update so they're compatible with all of the shocks that are only available in metric sizing? 

The Cube TWO15 HPC (full29) uses a 241x76 shock

The HPA version (full 27,5) uses a 250x75 shock 

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