I was also surprised by 54mm but I’d hope they’d make all the sizes. Also we have no clue if the 54mm is what the team...
I was also surprised by 54mm but I’d hope they’d make all the sizes. Also we have no clue if the 54mm is what the team actually uses. Could be different between riders.
I’m running 46mm with Ohlins and agreed, I like the stability and they feel more planted. I think it felt better on the Trek session, but now on the supreme v5, I may try the 51mm just to confirm.
This has been puzzling in the back of my mind all week but after doing a bunch of reading and hearing Chase Sexton talk on the...
This has been puzzling in the back of my mind all week but after doing a bunch of reading and hearing Chase Sexton talk on the Pulp Show this week about what he did to his Honda to make the front end more stable I think I understand why they would prefer this.
By increasing the offset they are lengthening the bike including the front center to increase chassis stability. We (the general public) generally think about just sizing up or getting reach adjust headsets but clearly Finn and Loic know exactly what reach measurement works for them and their bodies and don't want to change their body positioning on the bike (I think this is true for all top WC Pros, see Aaron Gwin and his 465mm magic reach #.) This also makes sense from a riding technique perspective, you want to be centered on the bike as much as possible.
Regarding the reduced trail from the longer offset, I think they can make up for that via slackening the HTA (Someone should do the math on this) or maybe they prefer the quicker front end for line changes.
I have to go back and listen to that Sexton interview!
im at actually in the middle of testing 46mm offset clamps with +5mm reach headset vs stock reach and 51mm clamps. I won’t know for a few weeks because the parks are just about to open. This is on Supreme V5. There is also +3mm, middle and -3mm chainstay settings so I’ll have that to throw in the mix.
I was also surprised by 54mm but I’d hope they’d make all the sizes. Also we have no clue if the 54mm is what the team...
I was also surprised by 54mm but I’d hope they’d make all the sizes. Also we have no clue if the 54mm is what the team actually uses. Could be different between riders.
I’m running 46mm with Ohlins and agreed, I like the stability and they feel more planted. I think it felt better on the Trek session, but now on the supreme v5, I may try the 51mm just to confirm.
This has been puzzling in the back of my mind all week but after doing a bunch of reading and hearing Chase Sexton talk on the...
This has been puzzling in the back of my mind all week but after doing a bunch of reading and hearing Chase Sexton talk on the Pulp Show this week about what he did to his Honda to make the front end more stable I think I understand why they would prefer this.
By increasing the offset they are lengthening the bike including the front center to increase chassis stability. We (the general public) generally think about just sizing up or getting reach adjust headsets but clearly Finn and Loic know exactly what reach measurement works for them and their bodies and don't want to change their body positioning on the bike (I think this is true for all top WC Pros, see Aaron Gwin and his 465mm magic reach #.) This also makes sense from a riding technique perspective, you want to be centered on the bike as much as possible.
Regarding the reduced trail from the longer offset, I think they can make up for that via slackening the HTA (Someone should do the math on this) or maybe they prefer the quicker front end for line changes.
Pretty sure Finn ran 51 and loic 42 according to some article I read at some point. Perhaps that changed.
I know Canfield has speced the 54 ohlins on bikes on the other hand. And they certainly know how to make a bike that can ride fast.
to sum up my experience shortly a larger offset increases grip and how much the bike follows where the front wheel is pointed but suffers floppiness and loss of grip when rotating the bars. A shorter offset decreases front wheel grip but vastly improves handling and consistency in feeling when moving the bars/sliding the front wheel. This feeling is accentuated when using shorter and quicker handling stems and lower tire pressures.
Listening to the most recent B-Podcast that just got posted... Sounds like Intense is once again screwing over it's race team by delivering updated/new bikes way too (late) close to the start of the season. You can tell Dakota is pissed but trying to hold back a bit to not ruffle feathers. Getting a new bike 4 weeks before the first race. Which has kept him from going overseas to race/prep/test (budget also an issue--but said it's pointless to do that until you have the bike you're racing).
do that many people buy intense? Here they struggle to sell them, heavily discounted but the sale goes on by and nobody buys.
This new frame from intense is the most interesting one to me in the last few years that I’d like to try. I heard another rider say he wanted to try it.
Intense has to thank PulpMX for keeping them afloat I guess. BTW, how can they be so late, like... how long does it take to weld a frame together? Unless their engineers are behind with stress testing etc...
Intense has to thank PulpMX for keeping them afloat I guess. BTW, how can they be so late, like... how long does it take to weld...
Intense has to thank PulpMX for keeping them afloat I guess. BTW, how can they be so late, like... how long does it take to weld a frame together? Unless their engineers are behind with stress testing etc...
That's the big mystery. Intense touts their ability to build aluminum race bikes in house. But they've failed to deliver on time the past two seasons. It must be that Jeff is the only person able to build the frames and he's half checked out, working on other parts of the business and maybe going to Maui for the winter. No reason for the production of a couple race frames to be that slow considering a full shop on-site. Meanwhile Neko is getting steel front triangles from the UK and carbon rear ends from Asia in a shorter time period lol.
Intense has to thank PulpMX for keeping them afloat I guess. BTW, how can they be so late, like... how long does it take to weld...
Intense has to thank PulpMX for keeping them afloat I guess. BTW, how can they be so late, like... how long does it take to weld a frame together? Unless their engineers are behind with stress testing etc...
If there was stress testing, they wouldn't need to change the rockers twice per weekend, and have a different looking one each event.......
Listening to the most recent B-Podcast that just got posted... Sounds like Intense is once again screwing over it's race team by delivering updated/new bikes way...
Listening to the most recent B-Podcast that just got posted... Sounds like Intense is once again screwing over it's race team by delivering updated/new bikes way too (late) close to the start of the season. You can tell Dakota is pissed but trying to hold back a bit to not ruffle feathers. Getting a new bike 4 weeks before the first race. Which has kept him from going overseas to race/prep/test (budget also an issue--but said it's pointless to do that until you have the bike you're racing).
i read your comment before listening, but I got that too...
Listening to the most recent B-Podcast that just got posted... Sounds like Intense is once again screwing over it's race team by delivering updated/new bikes way...
Listening to the most recent B-Podcast that just got posted... Sounds like Intense is once again screwing over it's race team by delivering updated/new bikes way too (late) close to the start of the season. You can tell Dakota is pissed but trying to hold back a bit to not ruffle feathers. Getting a new bike 4 weeks before the first race. Which has kept him from going overseas to race/prep/test (budget also an issue--but said it's pointless to do that until you have the bike you're racing).
Singletrack may have just accidentally leaked a new DVO "Topaz X" with added LSC/HSC adjustment in their latest Topaz Gen 3 review:
Did a little searching and here's a pic from Bikerumor (at Sedona last year) of a prototype DVO shock with the dual compression adjustment knob from the Jade coil shock:
Intense has to thank PulpMX for keeping them afloat I guess. BTW, how can they be so late, like... how long does it take to weld...
Intense has to thank PulpMX for keeping them afloat I guess. BTW, how can they be so late, like... how long does it take to weld a frame together? Unless their engineers are behind with stress testing etc...
That's the big mystery. Intense touts their ability to build aluminum race bikes in house. But they've failed to deliver on time the past two seasons...
That's the big mystery. Intense touts their ability to build aluminum race bikes in house. But they've failed to deliver on time the past two seasons. It must be that Jeff is the only person able to build the frames and he's half checked out, working on other parts of the business and maybe going to Maui for the winter. No reason for the production of a couple race frames to be that slow considering a full shop on-site. Meanwhile Neko is getting steel front triangles from the UK and carbon rear ends from Asia in a shorter time period lol.
Isn't that the American way?
Talk the talk, get the money, fuck everyone over and laugh all they way to the bank?
Pretty good side-profile shot of the new Ibis enduro bike over at MTB-News. Raphaela Richter is running it as a mullet, so it's compatible with both wheelsizes after all.
Pretty sure Finn ran 51 and loic 42 according to some article I read at some point. Perhaps that changed.
I know Canfield has speced the...
Pretty sure Finn ran 51 and loic 42 according to some article I read at some point. Perhaps that changed.
I know Canfield has speced the 54 ohlins on bikes on the other hand. And they certainly know how to make a bike that can ride fast.
to sum up my experience shortly a larger offset increases grip and how much the bike follows where the front wheel is pointed but suffers floppiness and loss of grip when rotating the bars. A shorter offset decreases front wheel grip but vastly improves handling and consistency in feeling when moving the bars/sliding the front wheel. This feeling is accentuated when using shorter and quicker handling stems and lower tire pressures.
Are you sure about that explanation of off-set and it's relationship to trail and steering? I'd interpret offset changes differently, but I'm no engineer!
Singletrack may have just accidentally leaked a new DVO "Topaz X" with added LSC/HSC adjustment in their latest Topaz Gen 3 review:
Did a little...
Singletrack may have just accidentally leaked a new DVO "Topaz X" with added LSC/HSC adjustment in their latest Topaz Gen 3 review:
Did a little searching and here's a pic from Bikerumor (at Sedona last year) of a prototype DVO shock with the dual compression adjustment knob from the Jade coil shock:
Singletrack may have just accidentally leaked a new DVO "Topaz X" with added LSC/HSC adjustment in their latest Topaz Gen 3 review:
Did a little...
Singletrack may have just accidentally leaked a new DVO "Topaz X" with added LSC/HSC adjustment in their latest Topaz Gen 3 review:
Did a little searching and here's a pic from Bikerumor (at Sedona last year) of a prototype DVO shock with the dual compression adjustment knob from the Jade coil shock:
Singletrack may have just accidentally leaked a new DVO "Topaz X" with added LSC/HSC adjustment in their latest Topaz Gen 3 review:
Did a little...
Singletrack may have just accidentally leaked a new DVO "Topaz X" with added LSC/HSC adjustment in their latest Topaz Gen 3 review:
Did a little searching and here's a pic from Bikerumor (at Sedona last year) of a prototype DVO shock with the dual compression adjustment knob from the Jade coil shock:
surprised to not see Jesse on or testing flight attendant since he seemed to have a big involvement on the fox electronic shock
I'll get there. I had a priority list of things to tackle once I changed teams and getting my suspension completely dialled was more important than Flight Attendant.
Singletrack may have just accidentally leaked a new DVO "Topaz X" with added LSC/HSC adjustment in their latest Topaz Gen 3 review:
Did a little...
Singletrack may have just accidentally leaked a new DVO "Topaz X" with added LSC/HSC adjustment in their latest Topaz Gen 3 review:
Did a little searching and here's a pic from Bikerumor (at Sedona last year) of a prototype DVO shock with the dual compression adjustment knob from the Jade coil shock:
Singletrack may have just accidentally leaked a new DVO "Topaz X" with added LSC/HSC adjustment in their latest Topaz Gen 3 review:
Did a little...
Singletrack may have just accidentally leaked a new DVO "Topaz X" with added LSC/HSC adjustment in their latest Topaz Gen 3 review:
Did a little searching and here's a pic from Bikerumor (at Sedona last year) of a prototype DVO shock with the dual compression adjustment knob from the Jade coil shock:
In my humble unpolished opinion, snobbery is very often the source of dumb criticism. DVOs are more than fine, for their target. But bells and whistles are demanded by the ones who cannot differentiate LSC from HSC, or riding with wrong sag.. The DVO jade (original dh shock) its a fantastic piece of simplicity.
If there was stress testing, they wouldn't need to change the rockers twice per weekend, and have a different looking one each event.......
Swapping rockers or links to setup a bike for a particular track is pretty common. But in Intense's case I don't really get the impression that that's why they were swapping them out!
As for how they stay afloat, it'd be interesting to know how many of the 951 bikes they sold to (or thru) costco? It seems like it could have been a pretty lucrative deal?
Swapping rockers or links to setup a bike for a particular track is pretty common. But in Intense's case I don't really get the impression that...
Swapping rockers or links to setup a bike for a particular track is pretty common. But in Intense's case I don't really get the impression that that's why they were swapping them out!
As for how they stay afloat, it'd be interesting to know how many of the 951 bikes they sold to (or thru) costco? It seems like it could have been a pretty lucrative deal?
I spent the last few months wrenching at regional NICA events. I had never seen a 951 anywhere, under any rider, until I started heading out to the high school races. I probably saw a good three or four dozen of those bikes over the course of a handful of races. I don’t know if that’s where most of their business is coming from, but it convinced me at least someone is buying those bikes.
Swapping rockers or links to setup a bike for a particular track is pretty common. But in Intense's case I don't really get the impression that...
Swapping rockers or links to setup a bike for a particular track is pretty common. But in Intense's case I don't really get the impression that that's why they were swapping them out!
As for how they stay afloat, it'd be interesting to know how many of the 951 bikes they sold to (or thru) costco? It seems like it could have been a pretty lucrative deal?
Those Tazer Ebikes sell like hotcakes out of the KTM shop local to me. I think they do a pretty good with those.
Looks like a spherical bushing on the top eyelet.
I have to go back and listen to that Sexton interview!
im at actually in the middle of testing 46mm offset clamps with +5mm reach headset vs stock reach and 51mm clamps. I won’t know for a few weeks because the parks are just about to open. This is on Supreme V5. There is also +3mm, middle and -3mm chainstay settings so I’ll have that to throw in the mix.
Steve is a big fan of spherical bushings, and due to be a service centre, dislikes trunnion in general
Pretty sure Finn ran 51 and loic 42 according to some article I read at some point. Perhaps that changed.
I know Canfield has speced the 54 ohlins on bikes on the other hand. And they certainly know how to make a bike that can ride fast.
to sum up my experience shortly a larger offset increases grip and how much the bike follows where the front wheel is pointed but suffers floppiness and loss of grip when rotating the bars. A shorter offset decreases front wheel grip but vastly improves handling and consistency in feeling when moving the bars/sliding the front wheel. This feeling is accentuated when using shorter and quicker handling stems and lower tire pressures.
They are no longer a service center, the service business was sold to S4 suspension
Listening to the most recent B-Podcast that just got posted... Sounds like Intense is once again screwing over it's race team by delivering updated/new bikes way too (late) close to the start of the season. You can tell Dakota is pissed but trying to hold back a bit to not ruffle feathers. Getting a new bike 4 weeks before the first race. Which has kept him from going overseas to race/prep/test (budget also an issue--but said it's pointless to do that until you have the bike you're racing).
do that many people buy intense? Here they struggle to sell them, heavily discounted but the sale goes on by and nobody buys.
This new frame from intense is the most interesting one to me in the last few years that I’d like to try. I heard another rider say he wanted to try it.
They probably sell more bikes to the SoCal moto Bro's than other companies sell globally.
Intense has to thank PulpMX for keeping them afloat I guess. BTW, how can they be so late, like... how long does it take to weld a frame together? Unless their engineers are behind with stress testing etc...
That's the big mystery. Intense touts their ability to build aluminum race bikes in house. But they've failed to deliver on time the past two seasons. It must be that Jeff is the only person able to build the frames and he's half checked out, working on other parts of the business and maybe going to Maui for the winter. No reason for the production of a couple race frames to be that slow considering a full shop on-site. Meanwhile Neko is getting steel front triangles from the UK and carbon rear ends from Asia in a shorter time period lol.
If there was stress testing, they wouldn't need to change the rockers twice per weekend, and have a different looking one each event.......
i read your comment before listening, but I got that too...
I listened before reading the comment and got the same impression as y'all. Dak did amazing job of not throwing Intense under the bus...
Singletrack may have just accidentally leaked a new DVO "Topaz X" with added LSC/HSC adjustment in their latest Topaz Gen 3 review:
Did a little searching and here's a pic from Bikerumor (at Sedona last year) of a prototype DVO shock with the dual compression adjustment knob from the Jade coil shock:
Isn't that the American way?
Talk the talk, get the money, fuck everyone over and laugh all they way to the bank?
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Pretty good side-profile shot of the new Ibis enduro bike over at MTB-News. Raphaela Richter is running it as a mullet, so it's compatible with both wheelsizes after all.
Are you sure about that explanation of off-set and it's relationship to trail and steering? I'd interpret offset changes differently, but I'm no engineer!
You cannot polish a turd.
You can 100% polish a turd….if you were so inclined
This is the first I'm hearing of anything negative about the Topaz, what exactly makes it such a turd?
I'll get there. I had a priority list of things to tackle once I changed teams and getting my suspension completely dialled was more important than Flight Attendant.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorodango
Beat me to it. It's an art form really.
In my humble unpolished opinion, snobbery is very often the source of dumb criticism. DVOs are more than fine, for their target. But bells and whistles are demanded by the ones who cannot differentiate LSC from HSC, or riding with wrong sag.. The DVO jade (original dh shock) its a fantastic piece of simplicity.
Swapping rockers or links to setup a bike for a particular track is pretty common. But in Intense's case I don't really get the impression that that's why they were swapping them out!
As for how they stay afloat, it'd be interesting to know how many of the 951 bikes they sold to (or thru) costco? It seems like it could have been a pretty lucrative deal?
I spent the last few months wrenching at regional NICA events. I had never seen a 951 anywhere, under any rider, until I started heading out to the high school races. I probably saw a good three or four dozen of those bikes over the course of a handful of races. I don’t know if that’s where most of their business is coming from, but it convinced me at least someone is buying those bikes.
Those Tazer Ebikes sell like hotcakes out of the KTM shop local to me. I think they do a pretty good with those.
Still irritated they decided to use that name…
Yt tues with a idler