There's got to be a linear rail behind that seat tube, right? tehe. It would make sense to use a six bar like their ebike, I can't see any definite evidence of it tho.
Also, is it just me or is the upper part more like a pulley than a proper sprocket ? hmmm can't wait to see more angles...
Also, is it just me or is the upper part more like a pulley than a proper sprocket ? hmmm can't wait to see more angles of this suspension layout !
I'd imagine the chain rub on the sides would be unbearable if there was no cog, but it does look pretty smooth to me. Maybe it could allow them to fine tune the chainline? If it were me I'd use that link on the idler to fine tune the position, or maybe have it under some sort of tension.
Yeti always gets wild with their dh bike suspension, so i would expect something sorta novel on this one outside of just being a high pivot/idler. we'll see soon enough
Quote at the bottom of the Richie video: “IT’S BEEN HUMBLING SEEING YETI WORK HARD TO BRING A DH RACE BIKE TO LIFE WITHOUT COMPROMISE. AFTER...
Quote at the bottom of the Richie video: “IT’S BEEN HUMBLING SEEING YETI WORK HARD TO BRING A DH RACE BIKE TO LIFE WITHOUT COMPROMISE. AFTER LEAVING THE SPORT ALMOST TEN YEARS AGO IT’S EXCITING TO GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED WITH ANOTHER YETI SPECIAL PROJECT. RACING ENDURO OVER THE PAST DECADE HAS BEEN REALLY FULFILLING, BUT I AM EAGER TO EXPLORE DH AGAIN. I WANT TO PUSH MYSELF AT HIGHER SPEEDS AND GET IN TUNE WITH THAT DH MENTALITY AGAIN AND IDEALLY BRING THOSE BENEFITS OVER TO ENDURO. WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, I JUST WANT TO GET ON A DH BIKE AGAIN AND HAVE SOME FUN.”
Looks like he will step into a few races on the new rig.
also judging by the shouting he's been on a spiked bottle again
What is this business behind the chainring? I know some high pivots also use a second pulley attached to the bashguard, like the e13 guard on...
What is this business behind the chainring? I know some high pivots also use a second pulley attached to the bashguard, like the e13 guard on Forbidden's, but this is huge.
Yeti always gets wild with their dh bike suspension, so i would expect something sorta novel on this one outside of just being a high pivot/idler...
Yeti always gets wild with their dh bike suspension, so i would expect something sorta novel on this one outside of just being a high pivot/idler. we'll see soon enough
Less losses :P
The pivot looks a bit higher than what GT and Trek use (which is a low-high-pivot (lol...)) but I'd say still lower than...
Less losses
The pivot looks a bit higher than what GT and Trek use (which is a low-high-pivot (lol...)) but I'd say still lower than what Norco and V4 Supreme use, let alone what Zerode did back in the day.
Do I spy two shock mounting positions near the BB?
Also, regarding horst link... There's a massive aluminium piece concentric to the rear axle. I vote split pivot. As for 6-bar and all, it's surprising to me how small the rocker link is considering it's a long travel bike...
Agreed on the pivot being mid-high and split pivot design rather than Horst link. Rear end looks quite similar to the Hope HB916 but with a...
Agreed on the pivot being mid-high and split pivot design rather than Horst link. Rear end looks quite similar to the Hope HB916 but with a higher pivot and smaller rocker link as mentioned. I think this design lends itself to being quite flexible for fine tuning kinematics while still being nicely packaged.
Should we start placing bets on what the kinematic numbers will be???😂
Short links tend to be harder to optimize kinematics-wise than longer ones (thus Neko opting for the mother of all rockers) as the angle changes through the travel are more severe and can be more unfavourable in certain travel parts.
Great find rludes! In the text: "First launched on our 160e to handle the specific requirements of an e-MTB, the nerds at Yeti re-applied Sixfinity in a whole new way with one singular goal in mind: to build the fastest Downhill Mountain Bike ever."
What is this business behind the chainring? I know some high pivots also use a second pulley attached to the bashguard, like the e13 guard on...
What is this business behind the chainring? I know some high pivots also use a second pulley attached to the bashguard, like the e13 guard on Forbidden's, but this is huge.
Great find rludes! In the text: "First launched on our 160e to handle the specific requirements of an e-MTB, the nerds at Yeti re-applied Sixfinity in...
Great find rludes! In the text: "First launched on our 160e to handle the specific requirements of an e-MTB, the nerds at Yeti re-applied Sixfinity in a whole new way with one singular goal in mind: to build the fastest Downhill Mountain Bike ever."
Yeah, I noticed that too. And look at the seat tube, it's huge, with a cutout behind the rocker. I bet it's 6-bar like their ebike, with the extra bar going from the swingarm through the seat tube to the rocker.
Great find rludes! In the text: "First launched on our 160e to handle the specific requirements of an e-MTB, the nerds at Yeti re-applied Sixfinity in...
Great find rludes! In the text: "First launched on our 160e to handle the specific requirements of an e-MTB, the nerds at Yeti re-applied Sixfinity in a whole new way with one singular goal in mind: to build the fastest Downhill Mountain Bike ever."
Whoa! There have to be some more links in that seat tube!! The chainstay probably isn't mounted directly to the frame, but via another short link and there's a dogbone link to the top link!
Whoa! There have to be some more links in that seat tube!! The chainstay probably isn't mounted directly to the frame, but via another short link...
Whoa! There have to be some more links in that seat tube!! The chainstay probably isn't mounted directly to the frame, but via another short link and there's a dogbone link to the top link!
It says Sixfinity on the website but where is it hiding? Looks like the rocker could potentially actually be a split pivot and it also looks like something hiding in the seat tube behind the shock area…
Exactly. You do not put a fender on the seatstay bridge to not cover the 'seat tube' with mud (you do it to prevent mud covering the links in there) and you do not make the seattube THAT chungus only to cut a hole in it without a reason.
Obviously I could be wrong, I did say it's a split-pivot about half an hour ago...
you all are the tech gurus, so enlighten me. this proto looks pretty high pivot. aren't most riders/brands settling in on mid-pivot after a few years...
you all are the tech gurus, so enlighten me. this proto looks pretty high pivot. aren't most riders/brands settling in on mid-pivot after a few years of high-pivot stuff? or am i mistaken?
It’s not THAT high is it? Looks similar to a Norco Shore or GT DH bike. I suspect it’s a Horst link, can kinda see a...
It’s not THAT high is it? Looks similar to a Norco Shore or GT DH bike. I suspect it’s a Horst link, can kinda see a pivot on the chainstay?
What surprises me most is that Yeti would go with this design? They have their 6bar e-bike platform and their switch infinity designs, so why not stay with the brand identity instead of following the mainstream?
Maybe because it is too complicated/unneeded to actually function well on a dh bike? I mean it works relatively well on their trail bikes (which cater...
Maybe because it is too complicated/unneeded to actually function well on a dh bike? I mean it works relatively well on their trail bikes (which cater to a bigger demographic, marketing wise, than a world cup racer) and such but is it needed on a dh bike when way simpler designs have won countless more races?
for me there are two answers:
1-some suspension systems are that bad efficient that high pivot make it better(Antisquat)
This can't be it, it's a Horst link!!
They hid the pivot very well and threw me off the trail with the chainstay being completely inline...
This can't be it, it's a Horst link!!
They hid the pivot very well and threw me off the trail with the chainstay being completely inline with the rear axle.
Am I wrong thinking a Horst link bike has the chainstay pivot below the rear axle (assuming a line drawn between the centre of both front and rear axles)?
is the centre line of the chainstay pivot slightly above the rear axle?
I still have one of those boxes, can't even remember what was in it.
I'm guessing the Totem goodie box was packed full of spare seals and bushings. I never had a Totem, but all my friends that did said the forks always needed a rebuild and ate seals and bushings like cookie monster eats cookies.
Am I wrong thinking a Horst link bike has the chainstay pivot below the rear axle (assuming a line drawn between the centre of both front...
Am I wrong thinking a Horst link bike has the chainstay pivot below the rear axle (assuming a line drawn between the centre of both front and rear axles)?
is the centre line of the chainstay pivot slightly above the rear axle?
That's a minor detail, I think Rocky got around the FSR patent by putting the pivot above the rear-centre line, so technically yes, but I'd say if the pivot is on the chainstay near the rear axle (and the brake link is floating obviously), then we categorise it as a horst link. It's gonna function more or less the same regardless of where the pivot actually is. QED, remember the older Demo where the main pivot was concentric so they could drop all the pivots, including the chainstay one? You can do something similar by raising all of them if you wanted for example.
And it very much looks like it's a 6-bar anyway, so the whole horst-link discussion is moot
What is this business behind the chainring? I know some high pivots also use a second pulley attached to the bashguard, like the e13 guard on...
What is this business behind the chainring? I know some high pivots also use a second pulley attached to the bashguard, like the e13 guard on Forbidden's, but this is huge.
that pulley location reduces the negative effect of the derailleur clutch by keeping the chain in more of a parallelogram shape so there isn't as much growth
There's got to be a linear rail behind that seat tube, right? tehe. It would make sense to use a six bar like their ebike, I can't see any definite evidence of it tho.
I'd imagine the chain rub on the sides would be unbearable if there was no cog, but it does look pretty smooth to me. Maybe it could allow them to fine tune the chainline? If it were me I'd use that link on the idler to fine tune the position, or maybe have it under some sort of tension.
Yeti always gets wild with their dh bike suspension, so i would expect something sorta novel on this one outside of just being a high pivot/idler. we'll see soon enough
also judging by the shouting he's been on a spiked bottle again
Sure... Perhaps someone could guide you to some insight?
I just stumbled on to this link within the 'roots run deep' page
https://yeticycles.com/technology/special-projects
#TBT
https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/Prototype-unique-and-random-m…
Short links tend to be harder to optimize kinematics-wise than longer ones (thus Neko opting for the mother of all rockers) as the angle changes through the travel are more severe and can be more unfavourable in certain travel parts.
This can't be it, it's a Horst link!!
They hid the pivot very well and threw me off the trail with the chainstay being completely inline with the rear axle.
Great find rludes! In the text: "First launched on our 160e to handle the specific requirements of an e-MTB, the nerds at Yeti re-applied Sixfinity in a whole new way with one singular goal in mind: to build the fastest Downhill Mountain Bike ever."
return of the MRP roller chainguides? missed out on the opportunity to come out with orange rollers again haha
Yeah, I noticed that too. And look at the seat tube, it's huge, with a cutout behind the rocker. I bet it's 6-bar like their ebike, with the extra bar going from the swingarm through the seat tube to the rocker.
those were some fun bikes to build and work on
Whoa! There have to be some more links in that seat tube!! The chainstay probably isn't mounted directly to the frame, but via another short link and there's a dogbone link to the top link!
It says Sixfinity on the website but where is it hiding? Looks like the rocker could potentially actually be a split pivot and it also looks like something hiding in the seat tube behind the shock area…
Exactly. You do not put a fender on the seatstay bridge to not cover the 'seat tube' with mud (you do it to prevent mud covering the links in there) and you do not make the seattube THAT chungus only to cut a hole in it without a reason.
Obviously I could be wrong, I did say it's a split-pivot about half an hour ago...
#TBT to Richie smoking Loris at World Champs in South Africa
That void behind the upper part of the shock looks like a prime area for a 6th bar to connect the rocker and chainstay/lower link...
https://i.imgur.com/PNzath0.png
From @Marshall Willanholly in the team rumors thread. I see daylight!
Just checked out gravelcyclist..the new SRAM Force AXS is out including the prices, maybe to kinda get an idea what the prices for the new MTB Line will cost?
https://www.gravelcyclist.com/bicycle-tech/press-release-sram-force-axs…
for me there are two answers:
1-some suspension systems are that bad efficient that high pivot make it better(Antisquat)
2- is in fashion to go high
I still have one of those boxes, can't even remember what was in it.
Am I wrong thinking a Horst link bike has the chainstay pivot below the rear axle (assuming a line drawn between the centre of both front and rear axles)?
is the centre line of the chainstay pivot slightly above the rear axle?
I'm guessing the Totem goodie box was packed full of spare seals and bushings. I never had a Totem, but all my friends that did said the forks always needed a rebuild and ate seals and bushings like cookie monster eats cookies.
That's a minor detail, I think Rocky got around the FSR patent by putting the pivot above the rear-centre line, so technically yes, but I'd say if the pivot is on the chainstay near the rear axle (and the brake link is floating obviously), then we categorise it as a horst link. It's gonna function more or less the same regardless of where the pivot actually is. QED, remember the older Demo where the main pivot was concentric so they could drop all the pivots, including the chainstay one? You can do something similar by raising all of them if you wanted for example.
And it very much looks like it's a 6-bar anyway, so the whole horst-link discussion is moot
Re Totem, meh, I got swindled!
Kinda funny that Richie Rude won South Africa on the same Saint groupset that's on this prototype 10 years later.
Old does not mean obsolete 😆
New Sram stuff: https://ruedasgordas.es/blog/view/se-filtran-los-precios-de-la-nueva-tr…
that pulley location reduces the negative effect of the derailleur clutch by keeping the chain in more of a parallelogram shape so there isn't as much growth
You can see the edge of the dogbone link inside the seat tube too, unless that's an oddly asymmetrical seat tube.