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9/14/2022 1:56pm
Elliot Heap is racing EWS-E using the Nukeproof Proto Megawatt with the SRAM motor - looks like SRAM have borrowed the Brose/Specialized setup as looks like a mastermind-like tcu on the top tube and no separate mode remote on the bars, maybe controlled by the axs remotes??

Maybe SRAM are going to licence or partner up with Specialized/Brose?

You can see bits of the top tube in the vid at around 9:35 in - https://youtu.be/7HaAVK8_JGo
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9/14/2022 1:59pm
Why is the Yeti enduro team shredding on a sb150 while some other brands make do with 165-170mm bikes? What about the sb165 - isn’t it a good enough pedaller for enduro stages?
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9/14/2022 2:18pm
It's a 27 inch bike. Isabeau rides a full 29er and she can barely stand over a 29" wheel...
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9/14/2022 2:29pm Edited Date/Time 9/14/2022 2:32pm
Why is the Yeti enduro team shredding on a sb150 while some other brands make do with 165-170mm bikes? What about the sb165 - isn’t it...
Why is the Yeti enduro team shredding on a sb150 while some other brands make do with 165-170mm bikes? What about the sb165 - isn’t it a good enough pedaller for enduro stages?
I think you’ll find 165mm 27.5 rear and 150mm 29 rear have about the same capability but a different feel. And honestly, most of the pro’s who have the option of the 170+ bikes use them for specific races like whistler but use the 150-160 bikes most of the other races

Also a good suspension design can more than make up for 10mm of extra travel
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9/14/2022 3:40pm
AndehM wrote:
Sadly it looks like they still don't have a 190/200mm AXS dropper.
ebruner wrote:
Great in theory, but without a re-design of the battery placement, I believe that will lead to a lot of ripped out axs batteries on long...
Great in theory, but without a re-design of the battery placement, I believe that will lead to a lot of ripped out axs batteries on long travel 29rs in anything but XL and up.
I'm not sure I follow. You can run the current AXS post slammed to the collar and the battery will clear the rear wheel. I am not sure why the longer post would be an issue for taller riders.
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D(C) wrote:
I'm not sure I follow. You can run the current AXS post slammed to the collar and the battery will clear the rear wheel. I am...
I'm not sure I follow. You can run the current AXS post slammed to the collar and the battery will clear the rear wheel. I am not sure why the longer post would be an issue for taller riders.
This^. If I fully slam my 170mm (on a bike with a short 400mm seat tube), on full compression the rear wheel will buzz the back of my saddle (fully slid forward) but clears the battery.
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9/14/2022 7:17pm
ClubRoost wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/14/13005/s1200_F442FFE4_7A2F_420E_B9D1_8A8F6B22D50F.jpg[/img]

that is for sure a new bike by looking at the cable ports at the headtube as they are clamped unlike the current sb150 and the linkage (not SI) looks mounted slightly higher than the current sb150 as well but just could be me.
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9/14/2022 7:42pm
Why is the Yeti enduro team shredding on a sb150 while some other brands make do with 165-170mm bikes? What about the sb165 - isn’t it...
Why is the Yeti enduro team shredding on a sb150 while some other brands make do with 165-170mm bikes? What about the sb165 - isn’t it a good enough pedaller for enduro stages?
Well its weird for sure.. but its like The nukeproof team using the Giga instead of Mega, The giga is much better bike as its like 20%+ more progressive in the mid stroke, the Giga was supposed to be a "because we can" kinda bike but its turned into their enduro race bike because progression.

Im suspecting some brands big rig bikes like the sb165 is to linear (im not certain as havnt looked up but as a guess)

for e.g The rocky altitude is approx 40% progression, one of the highest in its catagory? its a stupid fast fun bike.

side note:
I wouldnt be surprised to see the new remedy become a freeride bike.



9/14/2022 7:49pm
Why is the Yeti enduro team shredding on a sb150 while some other brands make do with 165-170mm bikes? What about the sb165 - isn’t it...
Why is the Yeti enduro team shredding on a sb150 while some other brands make do with 165-170mm bikes? What about the sb165 - isn’t it a good enough pedaller for enduro stages?
They’re using an over stroked shock that gets about 162mm in the current frame depending on how long the stroke is.
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9/14/2022 10:26pm
ClubRoost wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/14/13005/s1200_F442FFE4_7A2F_420E_B9D1_8A8F6B22D50F.jpg[/img]

mitch160 wrote:
that is for sure a new bike by looking at the cable ports at the headtube as they are clamped unlike the current sb150 and the...
that is for sure a new bike by looking at the cable ports at the headtube as they are clamped unlike the current sb150 and the linkage (not SI) looks mounted slightly higher than the current sb150 as well but just could be me.
Linkage is now sandwiched between the two sides of the frame above the infinity link, reverse of the current design.

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9/14/2022 11:03pm
Good catch Lee. The subtleties... It will be exciting to see the other changes and when the new range will be launched. From the SB66 launch (and maybe SB6?), Yeti never launch anything until the first batch is ready to ship from Yeti.
9/14/2022 11:12pm Edited Date/Time 9/15/2022 1:28am
Why is the Yeti enduro team shredding on a sb150 while some other brands make do with 165-170mm bikes? What about the sb165 - isn’t it...
Why is the Yeti enduro team shredding on a sb150 while some other brands make do with 165-170mm bikes? What about the sb165 - isn’t it a good enough pedaller for enduro stages?
They’re using an over stroked shock that gets about 162mm in the current frame depending on how long the stroke is.
Any more info on this? I've been running the cascade linkage and got big frame rub on bottom out even on a stock stroke shock. swiched back and its not rubbing but only with a couple of millimeters to spare. Doubt you could run a longer stroke shock unless you had a custom linkage for it raising the BB. The way the mounts work you could probalby only run offset bushings in the front and that would not give much extra i2i.
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9/14/2022 11:20pm Edited Date/Time 9/14/2022 11:24pm
ClubRoost wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/14/13005/s1200_F442FFE4_7A2F_420E_B9D1_8A8F6B22D50F.jpg[/img]

mitch160 wrote:
that is for sure a new bike by looking at the cable ports at the headtube as they are clamped unlike the current sb150 and the...
that is for sure a new bike by looking at the cable ports at the headtube as they are clamped unlike the current sb150 and the linkage (not SI) looks mounted slightly higher than the current sb150 as well but just could be me.
LTrumpore wrote:
Linkage is now sandwiched between the two sides of the frame above the infinity link, reverse of the current design. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/14/13006/s1200_Capture.jpg[/img]
Linkage is now sandwiched between the two sides of the frame above the infinity link, reverse of the current design.

cable ports are a bit different too! differences are really subtle.

edit: mitch160 was faster Smile
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9/14/2022 11:23pm
mitch160 wrote:
that is for sure a new bike by looking at the cable ports at the headtube as they are clamped unlike the current sb150 and the...
that is for sure a new bike by looking at the cable ports at the headtube as they are clamped unlike the current sb150 and the linkage (not SI) looks mounted slightly higher than the current sb150 as well but just could be me.
LTrumpore wrote:
Linkage is now sandwiched between the two sides of the frame above the infinity link, reverse of the current design. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/14/13006/s1200_Capture.jpg[/img]
Linkage is now sandwiched between the two sides of the frame above the infinity link, reverse of the current design.

krabo83 wrote:
cable ports are a bit different too! differences are really subtle.

edit: mitch160 was faster Smile
One could say it's the same, but different :-D
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9/14/2022 11:32pm
sr_34 wrote:
One could say it's the same, but different :-D
at least my sb150 won‘t look outdated in comparison Tongue
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9/15/2022 12:01am
baronKanon wrote:
Good catch Lee. The subtleties... It will be exciting to see the other changes and when the new range will be launched. From the SB66 launch...
Good catch Lee. The subtleties... It will be exciting to see the other changes and when the new range will be launched. From the SB66 launch (and maybe SB6?), Yeti never launch anything until the first batch is ready to ship from Yeti.
Would expect to see a UDH on there too.
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9/15/2022 11:19am
More shots of the SB150 on PB
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mrks wrote:
More shots of the SB150 on PB
looks really nice IMO.
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9/15/2022 12:22pm
What's the 3rd clamp on Richie's left side of the bar, inboard of the brake? It's some sort of round tab on the front side of the bar, not connected to anything (and he's not using the RAD electronic shock).
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9/15/2022 1:27pm
Commencal Meta V5. Production ready? 🧐


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9/15/2022 5:21pm Edited Date/Time 9/15/2022 5:28pm
Ghost announced today two new carbon models, the Riot cf (AM and Trail versions) and the Path Riot ebike. https://www.ghost-bikes.com/en/sidebyside [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/15/13009/s1200_Captura_de_pantalla_2022_09_15_220356.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/15/13008/s1200_Captura_de_pantalla_2022_09_15_220431.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/15/13010/s1200_Captura_de_pantalla_2022_09_15_220533.jpg[/img]
Ghost announced today two new carbon models, the Riot cf (AM and Trail versions) and the Path Riot ebike.
https://www.ghost-bikes.com/en/sidebyside


I wonder how their bikes ride, Their share in the market is not negligible for bigger bikes
9/15/2022 8:41pm
Ghost announced today two new carbon models, the Riot cf (AM and Trail versions) and the Path Riot ebike. https://www.ghost-bikes.com/en/sidebyside [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/15/13009/s1200_Captura_de_pantalla_2022_09_15_220356.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/15/13008/s1200_Captura_de_pantalla_2022_09_15_220431.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/15/13010/s1200_Captura_de_pantalla_2022_09_15_220533.jpg[/img]
Ghost announced today two new carbon models, the Riot cf (AM and Trail versions) and the Path Riot ebike.
https://www.ghost-bikes.com/en/sidebyside


Noeserd wrote:
I wonder how their bikes ride, Their share in the market is not negligible for bigger bikes
I own the Full Party EN (the one with Formula stuff) and it's a freaking monster truck. I'm really happy with it despite the fact that both the shock and the brakes have been replace and serviced under warranty.
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9/16/2022 12:46am
C-LION wrote:
Commencal Meta V5. Production ready? 🧐 [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/15/13011/s1200_3FECE272_34B2_4BDB_8A32_316EAD3F24D4.jpg[/img]
Commencal Meta V5. Production ready? 🧐


"Availability : february 2024"
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9/16/2022 5:03am
C-LION wrote:
Commencal Meta V5. Production ready? 🧐 [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/15/13011/s1200_3FECE272_34B2_4BDB_8A32_316EAD3F24D4.jpg[/img]
Commencal Meta V5. Production ready? 🧐



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[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/16/13014/s1200_2BEF04DF_313D_4FB8_BD9F_946A69908539.jpg[/img]

Is it an optical illusion or is that a really long spring? If I had to guess, that's not a 65 mm shock.
9/16/2022 6:39am Edited Date/Time 9/16/2022 6:42am
C-LION wrote:
Commencal Meta V5. Production ready? 🧐 [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/15/13011/s1200_3FECE272_34B2_4BDB_8A32_316EAD3F24D4.jpg[/img]
Commencal Meta V5. Production ready? 🧐


[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/16/13014/s1200_2BEF04DF_313D_4FB8_BD9F_946A69908539.jpg[/img]

I wish they would release the DH bike and I could buy one for next season. Commencal best hype train?
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boozed wrote:
Is it an optical illusion or is that a really long spring? If I had to guess, that's not a 65 mm shock.
Could be a long spring, don't forget new v5 is pretty short compared to current bikes



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