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matmattmatthew 7/19/2022 12:49pm
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Maybe they can come up with a trade and Rock Shox will allow Fox to add sag gradients to their suspension.
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baronKanon 7/19/2022 12:52pm
7/19/2022 12:52pm
matmattmatthew wrote:
Maybe they can come up with a trade and Rock Shox will allow Fox to add sag gradients to their suspension.
Funny thing is that RS stopped putting sag gradients on the 2023 line...
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Primoz 7/19/2022 1:08pm
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matmattmatthew wrote:
Maybe they can come up with a trade and Rock Shox will allow Fox to add sag gradients to their suspension.
baronKanon wrote:
Funny thing is that RS stopped putting sag gradients on the 2023 line...
That's a negative, sag gradients are present.
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matmattmatthew wrote:
Maybe they can come up with a trade and Rock Shox will allow Fox to add sag gradients to their suspension.
baronKanon wrote:
Funny thing is that RS stopped putting sag gradients on the 2023 line...
Primoz wrote:
That's a negative, sag gradients are present.
No they are not, I have the 2023 zeb ult on my bike.
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Primoz 7/19/2022 1:54pm
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Ah, I only checked the shocks as there was talk about it being patented and it being welcome on Santa Cruz bikes. Didn't check the forks as, honestly, it doesn't really matter there Smile
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TheShortestCharles 7/19/2022 6:51pm
7/19/2022 6:51pm
New Norco Fluid FS coming by the end of the month
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farozm 7/19/2022 8:55pm
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Photo shared by a friend who is now in Whistler living the dream. Initially I thought it was Chris Kovarik riding a prototype from Intense but after looking further, the fork is not from Fox and the rear pivot located near the rear axle also differ. Anyone has any idea about this bike?
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onenerdykid* 7/20/2022 12:25am
7/20/2022 12:25am
farozm wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/07/19/12747/s1200_IMG_20220720_WA0002.jpg[/img] Photo shared by a friend who is now in Whistler living the dream. Initially I thought it was Chris Kovarik riding a prototype from Intense...

Photo shared by a friend who is now in Whistler living the dream. Initially I thought it was Chris Kovarik riding a prototype from Intense but after looking further, the fork is not from Fox and the rear pivot located near the rear axle also differ. Anyone has any idea about this bike?
Rocky Mountain does similar chainstay rear pivots (in terms of being almost aligned with the rear axle)... could be something new from them, especially since they don't really have a DH bike at the moment.
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Primoz 7/20/2022 12:34am
7/20/2022 12:34am
Updated Range. Or a Range based DH bike.

The kit is all Sram with DT wheels, which is what Norco team is running (the clothing of the rider doesn't fit though). The bike looks to be a horst link high pivot as the wheel is mounted to the chainstay, but you can see a link down by the BB. And you can see the cradle for the shock just poking out from the cover.

Speculation only, I have no idea what Norco is doing of course.
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melonhead1145 7/20/2022 2:03am
7/20/2022 2:03am
It's a high pivot, upside down horst link. Aluminium mule for the new forbidden? or as said above a mule for a Norco DH bike, although the range converted to DH bike seems to be working for them.
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Primoz 7/20/2022 6:05am
7/20/2022 6:05am Edited Date/Time 7/20/2022 6:07am
Good point on the Forbidden. I'm a bit vary about it though as the carbon variant was already used in the a world Cup. The Range had been out for a little while and might be in development for an update.

BTW, looking at the pic, the seatstays and chainstays too (the latter not as obvious) look to be machined from solid. Screams proto mule.
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Mat_Slow_Rider 7/20/2022 8:30am
7/20/2022 8:30am
Heard that this is the new unreleased Fuel EX being ridden by Brandon Semenuk, looks exactly like the Ex-E, kade edwards was riding it too, in red bull's latest edit


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styriabeef 7/20/2022 8:36am
7/20/2022 8:36am
bermslapper69 wrote:
To those who don’t have the capacity to understand sarcasm: this appears to be the new sensor mentioned in previous pages. New frame style in line...
To those who don’t have the capacity to understand sarcasm: this appears to be the new sensor mentioned in previous pages. New frame style in line with the force but no idler
... and apparently also inline with Treks new style 😎 where did you find it? He must have taken it down.
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Uncle Cliffy 7/20/2022 8:42am
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“The Range had been out for a little while and might be in development for an update.”

This comment is amusing. Not just for the fact of how fast the bike industry moves, but because the Range sat on the shelf for so long. I’ve had mine for nine months, and I waited a year and a half from the day I ordered it. My local shop has an order of C2s that haven’t shown up that were ordered in 2020. The bike would definitely be considered “out for a while” if it had come out when it was supposed to…

Consequently I would wager there are versions of other bikes that never made it to market because they couldn’t l even see production.
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Whattheheel 7/20/2022 8:59am
7/20/2022 8:59am Edited Date/Time 7/20/2022 9:02am
"This was just posted on mtbr. It's up on Trek's website as an EXe. Somebody messed up."



Can someone embed the image for my newb ass...
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chriskief 7/20/2022 9:03am
7/20/2022 9:03am
Whattheheel wrote:
"This was just posted on mtbr. It's up on Trek's website as an EXe. Somebody messed up." [img]https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/22994902/[/img] Can someone embed the image for my newb...
"This was just posted on mtbr. It's up on Trek's website as an EXe. Somebody messed up."



Can someone embed the image for my newb ass...

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styriabeef 7/20/2022 9:38am
7/20/2022 9:38am
...because this obviously the new Sensor 😂
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number31crf 7/20/2022 9:42am
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farozm wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/07/19/12747/s1200_IMG_20220720_WA0002.jpg[/img] Photo shared by a friend who is now in Whistler living the dream. Initially I thought it was Chris Kovarik riding a prototype from Intense...

Photo shared by a friend who is now in Whistler living the dream. Initially I thought it was Chris Kovarik riding a prototype from Intense but after looking further, the fork is not from Fox and the rear pivot located near the rear axle also differ. Anyone has any idea about this bike?
Based on the gear and the build kit it looks a lot like kirk mcdowall. In which case it must be a norco of some sort
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TheShortestCharles 7/20/2022 10:22am
7/20/2022 10:22am
farozm wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/07/19/12747/s1200_IMG_20220720_WA0002.jpg[/img] Photo shared by a friend who is now in Whistler living the dream. Initially I thought it was Chris Kovarik riding a prototype from Intense...

Photo shared by a friend who is now in Whistler living the dream. Initially I thought it was Chris Kovarik riding a prototype from Intense but after looking further, the fork is not from Fox and the rear pivot located near the rear axle also differ. Anyone has any idea about this bike?
Maybe a successor to the Aurum HSP? Seems like it's been getting a little long in the tooth.
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noideamtber 7/20/2022 10:55am
7/20/2022 10:55am
Uncle Cliffy wrote:
“The Range had been out for a little while and might be in development for an update.” This comment is amusing. Not just for the fact...
“The Range had been out for a little while and might be in development for an update.”

This comment is amusing. Not just for the fact of how fast the bike industry moves, but because the Range sat on the shelf for so long. I’ve had mine for nine months, and I waited a year and a half from the day I ordered it. My local shop has an order of C2s that haven’t shown up that were ordered in 2020. The bike would definitely be considered “out for a while” if it had come out when it was supposed to…

Consequently I would wager there are versions of other bikes that never made it to market because they couldn’t l even see production.
a year and a half? They were in shops here when they said it would be.. way back then... I would never wait that long... especially if it was my only bike.

PSA "brands" when you do an alloy test mule... just release it in alloy, Trek accidently ended up with an alloy DH bike because it rides better than what theyd expect the carbon one to.
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Uncle Cliffy 7/20/2022 2:14pm
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Uncle Cliffy wrote:
“The Range had been out for a little while and might be in development for an update.” This comment is amusing. Not just for the fact...
“The Range had been out for a little while and might be in development for an update.”

This comment is amusing. Not just for the fact of how fast the bike industry moves, but because the Range sat on the shelf for so long. I’ve had mine for nine months, and I waited a year and a half from the day I ordered it. My local shop has an order of C2s that haven’t shown up that were ordered in 2020. The bike would definitely be considered “out for a while” if it had come out when it was supposed to…

Consequently I would wager there are versions of other bikes that never made it to market because they couldn’t l even see production.
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a year and a half? They were in shops here when they said it would be.. way back then... I would never wait that long... especially...
a year and a half? They were in shops here when they said it would be.. way back then... I would never wait that long... especially if it was my only bike.

PSA "brands" when you do an alloy test mule... just release it in alloy, Trek accidently ended up with an alloy DH bike because it rides better than what theyd expect the carbon one to.
Preseason order April 2020. Delivered October 2021. I’m a pretty patient guy considering. There were a lot of “we should see them next month” stories. Mine is the C1, which took extra time. A bunch of C2s made it to the states a couple months prior. Thankfully I didn’t sell the bike I’d been riding.
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boozed 7/20/2022 9:35pm
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styriabeef wrote:
...because this obviously the new Sensor 😂
Well it can't be a Trek, the logo's too small
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Primoz 7/21/2022 1:01am
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If the range was supposed to come out early 2020, then it would 3 years in the market today. Some companies do a refresh after three years. And the development cycles might have been going forward in the background.

More importantly, it's an aluminium mule, if it was a Range replacement (not saying it is, far from it), it would be a year or two out still.
Lasy_shay 7/21/2022 2:52am
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farozm wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/07/19/12747/s1200_IMG_20220720_WA0002.jpg[/img] Photo shared by a friend who is now in Whistler living the dream. Initially I thought it was Chris Kovarik riding a prototype from Intense...

Photo shared by a friend who is now in Whistler living the dream. Initially I thought it was Chris Kovarik riding a prototype from Intense but after looking further, the fork is not from Fox and the rear pivot located near the rear axle also differ. Anyone has any idea about this bike?
number31crf wrote:
Based on the gear and the build kit it looks a lot like kirk mcdowall. In which case it must be a norco of some sort
Looks a lot like the Norco Range alloy mule that Norco showed off in the Range Development vid -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHt1TCFvMV4
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Big Bird 7/21/2022 8:37am
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Lasy_shay wrote:
Looks a lot like the Norco Range alloy mule that Norco showed off in the Range Development vid -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHt1TCFvMV4
The chain and seat stays are different.
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Primoz 7/21/2022 9:17am
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And the shock cradle weld is perpendicular to the tube quite a bit more than on the proto, it doesn't have the gussets on the side of the downtube near the head tube, doesn't look like it has the Spam headtube, etc.

Bracing the brake mount that far forward is interesting to me.
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matmattmatthew 7/21/2022 9:30am
7/21/2022 9:30am Edited Date/Time 7/21/2022 12:52pm
Whattheheel wrote:
"This was just posted on mtbr. It's up on Trek's website as an EXe. Somebody messed up." [img]https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/22994902/[/img] Can someone embed the image for my newb...
"This was just posted on mtbr. It's up on Trek's website as an EXe. Somebody messed up."



Can someone embed the image for my newb ass...
chriskief wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/07/20/12749/s1200_trek.jpg[/img]

I know aesthetics are subjective, but that Trek just isn't doing it for me. It looks like a lovechild between a GT and a Niner. Considering most of their bikes over the last few years have been fairly simplistic with clean straight lines it's taking my brain a minute to adjust to this one. I know the Trek engineers are much smarter than me and there is a thought-out reason for every aspect of the bike. Maybe it will grow on me...
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Noeserd 7/21/2022 1:03pm
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Word on the street is fox has a fix for the x2. New 7000 series aluminum bodies and updated bearing seal to a quad seal. Hopefully it does something?
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millsr4 7/21/2022 1:28pm
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Noeserd wrote:
Word on the street is fox has a fix for the x2. New 7000 series aluminum bodies and updated bearing seal to a quad seal. Hopefully...
Word on the street is fox has a fix for the x2. New 7000 series aluminum bodies and updated bearing seal to a quad seal. Hopefully it does something?
That must be the new air shock that Melamed mentioned on the pinkbike podcast released today. He said something about only being comfortable on the coil shock in the past but is liking this new air shock.
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