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pinkrobe 12/21/2021 6:15pm
12/21/2021 6:15pm
metadave wrote:
Pretty sure you're right on the money about most of this from what I've been told. The new Fuel EX will be the middle travel bike...
Pretty sure you're right on the money about most of this from what I've been told. The new Fuel EX will be the middle travel bike with 140/150. I am having trouble with them not just dropping the top/ex parts of the names, and keeping it 90/super caliber, 120/Fuel, 140/Remedy, 170/Slash if the remedy isn't coming back in some form. It makes no sense to have similar names for two very different bikes that newer riders/customers often get mixed up when looking at them as is when you have a well recognized and liked name plate going unused.

Also, the Status. I don't understand. Why. Why is it not anywhere. Its so rad and everyone I've talked to riding it loves it and it's shreds.
Brevard_Bikewrench wrote:
Right. I’ve thought the exact same thing about the names! However the super cal is only 60mm in the rear (as of right now). Riders are...
Right. I’ve thought the exact same thing about the names! However the super cal is only 60mm in the rear (as of right now). Riders are hoping for a little more in the rear for the next bike, 90 would be perfect, to match the new style of putting 120 forks on everything that isn’t a trail or enduro bike. (I’m looking directly at you “Grinduro”)
My understanding with the status, and from personal experience, is it’s not for everyone. Yes it’s great as a park bike, but doesn’t really work well anywhere else. I’ve seen some people riding bikes that are two sizes two big for them, with 810mm bars and let’s just say it doesn’t go well. I’ve seen far too many people riding green flow trails in WNC eat it because they can’t get far enough over the front end.
But I digress. The status in its current form was released to only about 9 dealers originally in the US. Since then that number has grown, but still not everywhere. Marketing mishap or a pyramid scheme to help those top end stores? As a business major, I’d love to have a conversation with marketing director at specialized to really ask why they are withholding so much information about the bike.
metadave wrote:
We have a few of them on the sales floor and people are always super interested but very insure as they haven't seen it yet anywhere...
We have a few of them on the sales floor and people are always super interested but very insure as they haven't seen it yet anywhere else.
We've got a few at our shop too. We sold out of them in a heartbeat last season, and I can't imagine our current selection will last past the end of Feb.
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hogfly 12/22/2021 11:45am
12/22/2021 11:45am
Brevard_Bikewrench wrote:
Right. I’ve thought the exact same thing about the names! However the super cal is only 60mm in the rear (as of right now). Riders are...
Right. I’ve thought the exact same thing about the names! However the super cal is only 60mm in the rear (as of right now). Riders are hoping for a little more in the rear for the next bike, 90 would be perfect, to match the new style of putting 120 forks on everything that isn’t a trail or enduro bike. (I’m looking directly at you “Grinduro”)
My understanding with the status, and from personal experience, is it’s not for everyone. Yes it’s great as a park bike, but doesn’t really work well anywhere else. I’ve seen some people riding bikes that are two sizes two big for them, with 810mm bars and let’s just say it doesn’t go well. I’ve seen far too many people riding green flow trails in WNC eat it because they can’t get far enough over the front end.
But I digress. The status in its current form was released to only about 9 dealers originally in the US. Since then that number has grown, but still not everywhere. Marketing mishap or a pyramid scheme to help those top end stores? As a business major, I’d love to have a conversation with marketing director at specialized to really ask why they are withholding so much information about the bike.
metadave wrote:
We have a few of them on the sales floor and people are always super interested but very insure as they haven't seen it yet anywhere...
We have a few of them on the sales floor and people are always super interested but very insure as they haven't seen it yet anywhere else.
pinkrobe wrote:
We've got a few at our shop too. We sold out of them in a heartbeat last season, and I can't imagine our current selection will...
We've got a few at our shop too. We sold out of them in a heartbeat last season, and I can't imagine our current selection will last past the end of Feb.
My son has ridden a Status 140 for the last year.

It's definitely a fun bike, and he's enjoyed (and ridden) the hell out of it. He's likely getting something more race-worthy soon (though his results were good on the Status), but he plans on keeping the status as a play bike / backup. It's really great as a rut track bike with that short rear triangle.. but that rear pinballs around when you get into the steep chunder.


I will say that there are some VERY common issues with the bike that almost everyone we know who has had one has experienced, specifically related to the DPX2 (and, of course, the crappy drivetrain and the awful wheels). If the new ones are releasing with a Float X, then cool. It's a good value bike, but it would be nice to have them go with that frame and release some better builds that rectify those issues.
Tisickboy 12/22/2021 12:34pm
12/22/2021 12:34pm
As an old BOS fork and shock owner I'd advise people to stay way clear of this company. If you do buy them make sure you can get them serviced in your country or your going to be stuck with some very expensive paper weights.
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baronKanon 12/22/2021 1:24pm
12/22/2021 1:24pm
Tisickboy wrote:
As an old BOS fork and shock owner I'd advise people to stay way clear of this company. If you do buy them make sure you...
As an old BOS fork and shock owner I'd advise people to stay way clear of this company. If you do buy them make sure you can get them serviced in your country or your going to be stuck with some very expensive paper weights.
Yup. Too bad they are waaaay better at making products than customer service. The performance is awesome!
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Jakub_G 12/23/2021 11:26am
12/23/2021 11:26am
Tisickboy wrote:
As an old BOS fork and shock owner I'd advise people to stay way clear of this company. If you do buy them make sure you...
As an old BOS fork and shock owner I'd advise people to stay way clear of this company. If you do buy them make sure you can get them serviced in your country or your going to be stuck with some very expensive paper weights.
baronKanon wrote:
Yup. Too bad they are waaaay better at making products than customer service. The performance is awesome!
It´s a good thing they sell all the spare parts through the website then? Not to mention that the shock is just as easy to service as any other mono tube piggyback shock out there.
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baronKanon 12/23/2021 11:45am
12/23/2021 11:45am
Jakub_G wrote:
It´s a good thing they sell all the spare parts through the website then? Not to mention that the shock is just as easy to service...
It´s a good thing they sell all the spare parts through the website then? Not to mention that the shock is just as easy to service as any other mono tube piggyback shock out there.
That was a step up from ten years ago. They also never responded to my emails and distributors lasted at most one year...
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Dickscruttock 12/23/2021 1:53pm
12/23/2021 1:53pm
Tisickboy wrote:
As an old BOS fork and shock owner I'd advise people to stay way clear of this company. If you do buy them make sure you...
As an old BOS fork and shock owner I'd advise people to stay way clear of this company. If you do buy them make sure you can get them serviced in your country or your going to be stuck with some very expensive paper weights.
baronKanon wrote:
Yup. Too bad they are waaaay better at making products than customer service. The performance is awesome!
Jakub_G wrote:
It´s a good thing they sell all the spare parts through the website then? Not to mention that the shock is just as easy to service...
It´s a good thing they sell all the spare parts through the website then? Not to mention that the shock is just as easy to service as any other mono tube piggyback shock out there.
€80 euros for genuine BOS wiper seals LOL
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Tisickboy 12/23/2021 2:43pm
12/23/2021 2:43pm
Tisickboy wrote:
As an old BOS fork and shock owner I'd advise people to stay way clear of this company. If you do buy them make sure you...
As an old BOS fork and shock owner I'd advise people to stay way clear of this company. If you do buy them make sure you can get them serviced in your country or your going to be stuck with some very expensive paper weights.
baronKanon wrote:
Yup. Too bad they are waaaay better at making products than customer service. The performance is awesome!
Jakub_G wrote:
It´s a good thing they sell all the spare parts through the website then? Not to mention that the shock is just as easy to service...
It´s a good thing they sell all the spare parts through the website then? Not to mention that the shock is just as easy to service as any other mono tube piggyback shock out there.
I'm taking it you've never owned a BOS suspension unit. Yes the rear shock was a lot easier to self service than the fork I owned. But servicing the fork was an absolute bitch, not what you want from a £1600 fork.
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spicylobster69 12/23/2021 7:38pm
12/23/2021 7:38pm
I put a megneg super deluxe on my status and it’s night and day how much more composed the rear end is compared to the DPX2 after trying what felt like a million different set ups on it.
sinclairjr 12/24/2021 1:37am
12/24/2021 1:37am
baronKanon wrote:
Yup. Too bad they are waaaay better at making products than customer service. The performance is awesome!
Jakub_G wrote:
It´s a good thing they sell all the spare parts through the website then? Not to mention that the shock is just as easy to service...
It´s a good thing they sell all the spare parts through the website then? Not to mention that the shock is just as easy to service as any other mono tube piggyback shock out there.
Tisickboy wrote:
I'm taking it you've never owned a BOS suspension unit. Yes the rear shock was a lot easier to self service than the fork I owned...
I'm taking it you've never owned a BOS suspension unit. Yes the rear shock was a lot easier to self service than the fork I owned. But servicing the fork was an absolute bitch, not what you want from a £1600 fork.
I worked for the original distributor in the UK. The shocks and cartridges were good, the forks less so. Bos were not easy to deal with, we were a tuning company and Bos were adamant their products didn't need tuning. There was not a chamfered edge on a single part - cavitation central.

If you can get the parts, they are excellent shocks. If you have to deal with Bos directly, good luck.

A cheap fix for old shocks is to fit a Fox body, then use standard 1/2" seals and Push pistons. Not as nice as a 12 mm steel shaft, but serviceable pretty much anywhere - which is a big deal.

Their castings were really good, huge port volumes and a nice HS comp piston (later version they cheaped way out on the valving). Push actually copied this for their early MX mod using an Avalanche comp valve.




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Mr.Nally 12/24/2021 3:28am
12/24/2021 3:28am
Bruni recently riding with a Pirelli front tire.

Does anyone have any experience with these? They look very round.


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danposs86 12/24/2021 3:31am
12/24/2021 3:31am
Pirelli tyres have been round for a while now.
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Karabuka 12/24/2021 4:54am
12/24/2021 4:54am
danposs86 wrote:
Pirelli tyres have been round for a while now.
True, but has anyone been using them in the WC circuit?
I'm fairly sure this is just a standard benchmarking, Specialized gravity has been running blacked out tires for years so they might as well test all of the options....
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Masjo 12/24/2021 5:52am
12/24/2021 5:52am
Karabuka wrote:
True, but has anyone been using them in the WC circuit? I'm fairly sure this is just a standard benchmarking, Specialized gravity has been running blacked...
True, but has anyone been using them in the WC circuit?
I'm fairly sure this is just a standard benchmarking, Specialized gravity has been running blacked out tires for years so they might as well test all of the options....
The MTB range was 'developed with Fabien Barel' so it has some sort of racing pedigree. Saying that, the recent reviews of the 'Enduro' range floating around the internet are not that great with many complaining of the tires being overly stiff and not aggressive enough for anything past XC. I haven't personally tried them and that doesn't mean the DH range is bad. In contrast their 'gravel' and 'road' tires seem to perform pretty well, though again they seem to have a stiffer carcass than most.
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Primoz 12/24/2021 7:10am
12/24/2021 7:10am
Aren't they just Vittoria or Panaracer (can't remember which) rebranded to Pirelli, as the brand name was available for bike use?
JerseyMojo 12/25/2021 8:16am
12/25/2021 8:16am
I had a set of available to the public Pirelli tyres and they were useless. Know a guy who had access to the proto Pirelli’s and said they’re night and day different to the publicly available tyres. Proto ones are apparently very very good.
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Primoz 12/25/2021 9:44am
12/25/2021 9:44am
Proto as in upcoming ones or proto as in prototype preproduction ones of the current ones?
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JerseyMojo 12/25/2021 3:23pm
12/25/2021 3:23pm
Proto as in upcoming. This was around 3 months ago. Don’t think any new tyres have been released since then?
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Mr.Nally 12/26/2021 5:55am
12/26/2021 5:55am
danposs86 wrote:
Pirelli tyres have been round for a while now.
Unlike Maxxis and Michelin that tend to have a square bead from time to time Sideways Tongue
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ORTOGONAL555 12/26/2021 11:22am
12/26/2021 11:22am
JerseyMojo wrote:
I had a set of available to the public Pirelli tyres and they were useless. Know a guy who had access to the proto Pirelli’s and...
I had a set of available to the public Pirelli tyres and they were useless. Know a guy who had access to the proto Pirelli’s and said they’re night and day different to the publicly available tyres. Proto ones are apparently very very good.
I tried their enduro tires and for general bike park riding they were decent. Definitely not as grippy as my Michelin dh tires but it's not an apple to apple comparison. The proto enduro and dh tires (not sure if they are the same) look different than anything available. They are assegai-esque and have been tested at WC this season. Seeing them in person the knobs didn't look very tall but that could just be me.
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Trocko 12/27/2021 11:01am
12/27/2021 11:01am
Hearing a new long travel 29er bike should be announced in a few weeks from a US company that's lively, noisy, and likes to party Wink
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TheShortestCharles 12/27/2021 1:04pm
12/27/2021 1:04pm
Trocko wrote:
Hearing a new long travel 29er bike should be announced in a few weeks from a US company that's lively, noisy, and likes to party Wink
Guerrilla Gravity, or possibly Ibis?
bike_futurist 12/27/2021 1:30pm
12/27/2021 1:30pm
Trocko wrote:
Hearing a new long travel 29er bike should be announced in a few weeks from a US company that's lively, noisy, and likes to party Wink
Megatower v2?
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DonutMTB 12/27/2021 1:57pm
12/27/2021 1:57pm
Trocko wrote:
Hearing a new long travel 29er bike should be announced in a few weeks from a US company that's lively, noisy, and likes to party Wink
is it that vacay brand cam zink's been teasing?
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nskerb 12/27/2021 5:57pm
12/27/2021 5:57pm
What happened to the wheelbased guy. He used to post here quite a bit.
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boozed 12/27/2021 10:56pm
12/27/2021 10:56pm
nskerb wrote:
What happened to the wheelbased guy. He used to post here quite a bit.
Still posts on his website, wheelbased.com
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krabo83 12/27/2021 11:34pm
12/27/2021 11:34pm
Trocko wrote:
Hearing a new long travel 29er bike should be announced in a few weeks from a US company that's lively, noisy, and likes to party Wink
don‘t get your hopes up guys, my guess would be the transition e-bike… because they are all noisy Wink
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BlackRider 12/28/2021 1:58pm
12/28/2021 1:58pm
New Canyon Strive ????
Dimitri Tordo in @adriandailly 's IG stories




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Primoz 12/28/2021 3:59pm
12/28/2021 3:59pm
Front triangle doesn't look particularly new (compared to the current one), rear end does, very much so. The chainstay pivot is lower and more forwards than the current one.
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BlackRider 12/28/2021 11:49pm
12/28/2021 11:49pm
Trocko wrote:
Hearing a new long travel 29er bike should be announced in a few weeks from a US company that's lively, noisy, and likes to party Wink
OMG, that could be so... lets say... INTENSE
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