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baronKanon 6/2/2021 4:35am
6/2/2021 4:35am
Nico_Ofner wrote:
Don't think so. At least the new Boxxer is air sprung so I don't think the Zeb is coil.
Blackbox means unreleased shit. Meaning they may as well try something new (like coil)
Erwan_Ghesquiere 6/2/2021 6:37am
6/2/2021 6:37am
SupremeShreder42 wrote:
Better look on the Supreme Proto. Def. an other bike than the one in the story. just look at the overall shape and the non fixed...
Better look on the Supreme Proto. Def. an other bike than the one in the story. just look at the overall shape and the non fixed rear triangle!



hitar_potar wrote:
Looks like a horst-link! Would be cool to change it to a high-pivot horst-link. Would be strange to change it only to horst-link, without the high-pivot...
Looks like a horst-link! Would be cool to change it to a high-pivot horst-link. Would be strange to change it only to horst-link, without the high-pivot - given that everyone is trying to catch them
Knowing Commencal and their attachment to high-pivot it looks more like a high-pivot on which the seatstays are the swingarms, and the chainstays are the link to connect to the rocker. Something that was used on GT RTS, Sunn Radical(s), Zerode DH and many more. It seems more in-line with their current suspension philosophy that gave them many victories in the recent years. I imagine that such shift in design would allow them to reduce the frame weight a little bit since you are using the chainstays instead of a linkage, potentially also making it more compact and lower down in the frame.
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komyewest 6/2/2021 7:13am
6/2/2021 7:13am
Nico_Ofner wrote:
Don't think so. At least the new Boxxer is air sprung so I don't think the Zeb is coil.
baronKanon wrote:
Blackbox means unreleased shit. Meaning they may as well try something new (like coil)
"new (like coil)" lol
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noeserdalt 6/2/2021 7:53am
6/2/2021 7:53am
komyewest wrote:
"new (like coil)" lol
As long as it's better than the current spring...
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eldsvada 6/2/2021 12:40pm
6/2/2021 12:40pm
Seriously you guys??

You better hope NSMB doesn't find out about this thread!!
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Poleczechy 6/2/2021 1:58pm
6/2/2021 1:58pm
sspomer wrote:
a recent video on youtube by someone that lives in colorado springs. he camps out here sometimes
a recent video on youtube by someone that lives in colorado springs. he camps out here sometimes
TheSuspensionLabNZ wrote:
😂😂 I don’t think anyone picked up on that
Dave's not here, man
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brash 6/2/2021 3:01pm
6/2/2021 3:01pm
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just browsing the pivot website, looking through their suspension guide I think they let the cat out of the bag for the firebird 29 rear shock...
just browsing the pivot website, looking through their suspension guide I think they let the cat out of the bag for the firebird 29 rear shock. Current model is 230x65 standard eyelet, Seems the new one is 205x65 trunnion which by rights means a 29 inch Mach 6 lookalike I presume.


Nico_Ofner wrote:
I saw Matt Walker and Eddie Masters on new Enduro bikes at Schladming. They were covered up like Angel's Commencal when I saw them tho. For...
I saw Matt Walker and Eddie Masters on new Enduro bikes at Schladming. They were covered up like Angel's Commencal when I saw them tho. For sure that bike you talked about
yep, go back 2 or 3 pages mate. You werent tripping out, there is videos of a pivot with a nice warm blanket keeping the shock oil warm.
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dolface 6/2/2021 4:53pm
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Poleczechy wrote:
Dave's not here, man
We are dating ourselves and I am totally OK with that Tongue

(I wonder if my kids would even watch that or if it's too dated...)

Sorry for the derail, back to bike nerding!
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metadave 6/2/2021 9:32pm
6/2/2021 9:32pm
Something something Insurgent.........
Biketechspert 6/2/2021 11:02pm
6/2/2021 11:02pm
its fun to read these and see the guesses. some of them are pretty close
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mitch160 6/2/2021 11:16pm
6/2/2021 11:16pm
komyewest wrote:
"new (like coil)" lol
noeserdalt wrote:
As long as it's better than the current spring...
something like the old B1 spring but has full extension of travel should be what they are testing/producing otherwise thats a bit crap.
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sspomer 6/3/2021 5:10pm
6/3/2021 5:10pm
if any of these are not new, i apologize. i bow down to you all for your nerding wisdom Tongue

i pulled a few screencaps from our not-a-race raw so you all can check out the bikes.

loic and finn on a special link but no high pivot or idler that could be seen.
greg's bike w/o the rear extension
is that devinci unique?
greg williamson's commencal - is that linkage down low normal? is that what angel's been keeping covered?
wyn's DH bike w/ that front triangle

mondrakers seemed pretty normal, so did the cubes and treks. if you see something in the vid, holler and i can get the source frame grab.









https://youtu.be/XL3mnXF5oGg
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TheShortestCharles 6/3/2021 6:03pm
6/3/2021 6:03pm Edited Date/Time 6/3/2021 6:04pm
sspomer wrote:
if any of these are not new, i apologize. i bow down to you all for your nerding wisdom :P i pulled a few screencaps from...
if any of these are not new, i apologize. i bow down to you all for your nerding wisdom Tongue

i pulled a few screencaps from our not-a-race raw so you all can check out the bikes.

loic and finn on a special link but no high pivot or idler that could be seen.
greg's bike w/o the rear extension
is that devinci unique?
greg williamson's commencal - is that linkage down low normal? is that what angel's been keeping covered?
wyn's DH bike w/ that front triangle

mondrakers seemed pretty normal, so did the cubes and treks. if you see something in the vid, holler and i can get the source frame grab.









https://youtu.be/XL3mnXF5oGg
The Commencal looks like a regular Supreme with custom links (the one under wraps uses the chainstays as part of the linkage, unlike the current Supreme); same with the Demo. As for the Devinci, it looks like a stock 2021 Wilson to me but I'm not positive. One of the Sessions in the video looked like it was running the Blackbox suspension front and rear, but I doubt any screencaps of the shock would be better than these.
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mitch160 6/3/2021 6:56pm
6/3/2021 6:56pm
might want to check your posts as i think that you may have accidently leaked one of the new norco ebikes today on your instagram stories @vitalmtb
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TheShortestCharles 6/3/2021 9:42pm
6/3/2021 9:42pm
mitch160 wrote:
might want to check your posts as i think that you may have accidently leaked one of the new norco ebikes today on your instagram stories...
might want to check your posts as i think that you may have accidently leaked one of the new norco ebikes today on your instagram stories @vitalmtb
You can see the upcoming long-travel bike on the other page too (screenshot from a slightly better angle)
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mitch160 6/3/2021 10:34pm
6/3/2021 10:34pm
mitch160 wrote:
might want to check your posts as i think that you may have accidently leaked one of the new norco ebikes today on your instagram stories...
might want to check your posts as i think that you may have accidently leaked one of the new norco ebikes today on your instagram stories @vitalmtb
TheShortestCharles wrote:
You can see the upcoming long-travel bike on the other page too (screenshot from a slightly better angle) [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/03/10899/s1200_Screenshot_2021_06_03_9.40.40_PM.jpg[/img]
You can see the upcoming long-travel bike on the other page too (screenshot from a slightly better angle)
the new range that is meant to be launched as well. Spoke to a bike shop recently about norco's they said that they are launching new bikes sometime this month.
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Biketechspert 6/3/2021 11:29pm
6/3/2021 11:29pm
sspomer wrote:
if any of these are not new, i apologize. i bow down to you all for your nerding wisdom :P i pulled a few screencaps from...
if any of these are not new, i apologize. i bow down to you all for your nerding wisdom Tongue

i pulled a few screencaps from our not-a-race raw so you all can check out the bikes.

loic and finn on a special link but no high pivot or idler that could be seen.
greg's bike w/o the rear extension
is that devinci unique?
greg williamson's commencal - is that linkage down low normal? is that what angel's been keeping covered?
wyn's DH bike w/ that front triangle

mondrakers seemed pretty normal, so did the cubes and treks. if you see something in the vid, holler and i can get the source frame grab.









https://youtu.be/XL3mnXF5oGg
Those bikes are all the same as usual with the exception of wyn masters GT which we have already seen pictures of before. Not a fan of the large seat tube top tube triangle brace but it should ride all the same. Most pros especially the specialized team have custom links to suit their needs so thats nothing special
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Uncle Cliffy 6/3/2021 11:34pm
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mitch160 wrote:
might want to check your posts as i think that you may have accidently leaked one of the new norco ebikes today on your instagram stories...
might want to check your posts as i think that you may have accidently leaked one of the new norco ebikes today on your instagram stories @vitalmtb
TheShortestCharles wrote:
You can see the upcoming long-travel bike on the other page too (screenshot from a slightly better angle) [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/06/03/10899/s1200_Screenshot_2021_06_03_9.40.40_PM.jpg[/img]
You can see the upcoming long-travel bike on the other page too (screenshot from a slightly better angle)
mitch160 wrote:
the new range that is meant to be launched as well. Spoke to a bike shop recently about norco's they said that they are launching new...
the new range that is meant to be launched as well. Spoke to a bike shop recently about norco's they said that they are launching new bikes sometime this month.
I’ve had a new Range on order for a whole year. Yeah, a YEAR..... Latest rumor I heard was fall for the model I ordered. I’m just happy I have something to ride in the meantime.
loic.penel 6/4/2021 2:10am
6/4/2021 2:10am
SR Suntour still does not have the lower legs for rux 29. look at the space between the roll bar and the tire! when i was a mechanic for benoit coulanges (in team dorval am), we filed the hoop to give it more space. but the NS team mechanics apparently don't care ...
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sspomer 6/4/2021 5:39am
6/4/2021 5:39am Edited Date/Time 6/4/2021 6:25am
whoa, that fork/wheel clearance is gnarly.
also, bummer those not-a-race screencaps are basically old news. i'll leave the true nerding to you all.
also also, high fives on your story sleuthing yesterday
also also also, this is technically gear related and freaking hilarious TLD 90-degree "ANAL" (sorry stik)


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JerseyMojo 6/4/2021 7:07am
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sspomer wrote:
whoa, that fork/wheel clearance is gnarly. also, bummer those not-a-race screencaps are basically old news. i'll leave the true nerding to you all. also also, high...
whoa, that fork/wheel clearance is gnarly.
also, bummer those not-a-race screencaps are basically old news. i'll leave the true nerding to you all.
also also, high fives on your story sleuthing yesterday
also also also, this is technically gear related and freaking hilarious TLD 90-degree "ANAL" (sorry stik)


Can confirm... Sad


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sspomer 6/4/2021 8:48am
6/4/2021 8:48am
HA! is that yours?
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sharpy212 6/4/2021 8:56am
6/4/2021 8:56am Edited Date/Time 6/4/2021 8:57am
The bargain bins will be full of these tops!! Some designer is going need to pack up his desk come Monday!
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Jason_Schroeder 6/4/2021 9:17am
6/4/2021 9:17am
I mean if all new gear had some hidden design I wouldn’t be mad about it 😂 This is an aggressive start though
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Brian_Peterson 6/4/2021 9:23am
6/4/2021 9:23am
Being the TLD is calling that the One and done, I'm guessing that was someone's first and last project there?
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bizutch 6/4/2021 10:02am
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As soon as I saw it last night, I tried to find a pic on Luca's Instragram feed to see if people were harrassing him about it, but none.

Oh, and just so people know (if they don't), tattoo artists who do custom work on you hide words in the design all the time. I've seen some truly gnarly stuff in people's tats and they will NEVER know.

Now...go make your tatted up buddy paranoid. Also, 100% true.
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JerseyMojo 6/4/2021 10:12am
6/4/2021 10:12am
sspomer wrote:
HA! is that yours?
Yep. Not yet worn. Tempted to return…!
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Mr. P 6/4/2021 10:18am
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Haha! As a graphic designer, I'm quite sure the "hidden message" is what the viewer is bringing to that design. Read as, someone has "anal" on their mind and it wasn't the designer. That said, it is the graphic designer's job to vet the design to avoid issues like people who read "anal" in everything.

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LukeD 6/4/2021 10:49am
6/4/2021 10:49am Edited Date/Time 6/4/2021 10:50am
bizutch wrote:
As soon as I saw it last night, I tried to find a pic on Luca's Instragram feed to see if people were harrassing him about...
As soon as I saw it last night, I tried to find a pic on Luca's Instragram feed to see if people were harrassing him about it, but none.

Oh, and just so people know (if they don't), tattoo artists who do custom work on you hide words in the design all the time. I've seen some truly gnarly stuff in people's tats and they will NEVER know.

Now...go make your tatted up buddy paranoid. Also, 100% true.
As a creative director and former custom painter.... can confirm.

Also, I do know of custom painters who have cleared their own pubes into work of customers who drove them insane.
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