2019 UCI World Cup Downhill Tech

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peecee 4/20/2019 9:24pm
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rachel's bike View this post on Instagram Sickest day on the bike tackling Revo in the Sunshine! ☀️ @revolutionbp ☀️ I had a massive crash first...
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Being held together with some green tape haha
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Dylan 4/20/2019 11:39pm
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Its telemetry that measures all aspects of the bike. Brakes, suspension, everything. Whats next to the brake is the button that turns it on. If you...
Its telemetry that measures all aspects of the bike. Brakes, suspension, everything. Whats next to the brake is the button that turns it on. If you look at Mark Wallace's bike in the Windrock PIT BITS you can see a few more sensors. Really cool and really "ahead" in terms of tech and figuring out how to get these milliseconds.
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Sounds like a similar sort of setup to what Danny Hart was running last year
https://youtu.be/nVJZ3ag8gLU
So I was bang on when I said it was similar to what Danny was running. Danny's mechanic Dave Garland is the man behind Stendec. Seems to be one of the first complete telemetry setups available to the wider public. I'd love to see a data comparison between two pros on the same track, would the have the same braking points and see similar forces or would it be completely different rider to rider?





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gibbon 4/21/2019 4:03am
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sspomer wrote:
rachel's bike View this post on Instagram Sickest day on the bike tackling Revo in the Sunshine! ☀️ @revolutionbp ☀️ I had a massive crash first...
rachel's bike

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Being held together with some green tape haha
It's the uplift ticket ya 'tard.
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iceman2058 4/21/2019 11:08am
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Specialized Factory's big rig looking mean and ready to go! #webrakefornobody #spaceballs #whenyouknowyouknow

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Dylan 4/22/2019 1:06am
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Kye Ahern and Magnus Mason's 29er Senders. Interestingly they're both still running the Rockshox Vivid instead of the Super Deluxe


Side profile of Danny Hart's reverse mullet bike. In a world of new standards and wheel sizes its good to see that the Shimano Saint groupset released in 2012 still going strong.



iceman2058 4/22/2019 5:07am
4/22/2019 5:07am
Ever wonder what kind of data those telemetry devices spit out? Here are a few screen grabs from Minnaar's Instagram story for you to nerd out over:








Hyperpower! 4/22/2019 6:53am
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Kye Ahern and Magnus Mason's 29er Senders. Interestingly they're both still running the Rockshox Vivid instead of the Super Deluxe View this post on Instagram A...
Kye Ahern and Magnus Mason's 29er Senders. Interestingly they're both still running the Rockshox Vivid instead of the Super Deluxe


Side profile of Danny Hart's reverse mullet bike. In a world of new standards and wheel sizes its good to see that the Shimano Saint groupset released in 2012 still going strong.



Maybe the Vivid use is related to shock stroke and 29er wheels (rear wheel clearance?). Brosnan is using the Deluxe and he is on 27.5" while the Canyon riders who are on 29" wheels are on the Vivid.
iceman2058 4/22/2019 11:12am
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Sick new lid for Amaury!

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peecee 4/22/2019 3:28pm
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It's the uplift ticket ya 'tard.
It was clearly a joke! but maybe next time have a think about the choice of words you use instead of coming across like an uneducated chav.
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Darth_Sloth 4/23/2019 4:25am
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Specialized on the old Carbon Demo, or a carbon version of the New Demo?

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Dylan 4/23/2019 4:39am
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A couple more bikes from the IXS.

Blenki's Norco is super dialed



Wyn on the reverse mullet 69er GT Fury



Mega-sized rotors on Vali's Tues 29er. Although the photo angle does kind of makes it look like a reverse mullet bike







Martin_Prophet 4/23/2019 5:35am
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Darth_Sloth wrote:
Specialized on the old Carbon Demo, or a carbon version of the New Demo? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2019/04/23/8064/s1200_2BFB3C0A_F286_4F67_8D2C_B42D44D6BEA8.jpg[/img]
Specialized on the old Carbon Demo, or a carbon version of the New Demo?

It‘s still Aluminium
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Dave_Camp 4/23/2019 9:18am
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Poor Jordi!
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bturman 4/23/2019 9:49am
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The new Cannondale getting squished:

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jonkranked 4/23/2019 11:53am
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interesting. overheard in the video that it allows them to tune the leverage rate for the spring and the damper separately.
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Democho 4/23/2019 2:54pm
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Wonder why when Jordi is measuring the lower shock in the video it has a coil on it? Can you put the coil down there and the damper up top and vice versa...? It looks like at 4:23 they're running it with no top shock at all, maybe that's why.

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Democho wrote:
Wonder why when Jordi is measuring the lower shock in the video it has a coil on it? Can you put the coil down there and...
Wonder why when Jordi is measuring the lower shock in the video it has a coil on it? Can you put the coil down there and the damper up top and vice versa...? It looks like at 4:23 they're running it with no top shock at all, maybe that's why.

In watching the video they are saying in can be run in a single shock mode. In one of the spots of the video you can see a single shock in the lower mount.
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Dylan 4/23/2019 3:15pm
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Democho wrote:
Wonder why when Jordi is measuring the lower shock in the video it has a coil on it? Can you put the coil down there and...
Wonder why when Jordi is measuring the lower shock in the video it has a coil on it? Can you put the coil down there and the damper up top and vice versa...? It looks like at 4:23 they're running it with no top shock at all, maybe that's why.

By the looks of it when you run one shock, it goes in the downtube.

You've gotta hand it to Cannondale though, they certainly live outside the box. 2Stage had a DH bike back in the day that ran two shocks but with a completely different concept. They had one shock for small bumps and one for big hits. Foes also comes to mind. The thing I like about the Cannondale is that their goals seem to be about improving the entire suspension package not just modifying a bike to work better with an existing product.





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peecee 4/23/2019 4:02pm
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By the looks of it when you run one shock, it goes in the downtube. You've gotta hand it to Cannondale though, they certainly live outside...
By the looks of it when you run one shock, it goes in the downtube.

You've gotta hand it to Cannondale though, they certainly live outside the box. 2Stage had a DH bike back in the day that ran two shocks but with a completely different concept. They had one shock for small bumps and one for big hits. Foes also comes to mind. The thing I like about the Cannondale is that their goals seem to be about improving the entire suspension package not just modifying a bike to work better with an existing product.





Scott have done this before and Cannondale have also experimented with 2 shocks before, the most interesting thing to me is that Fox have clearly gone and had to make a brand new simple shock just to be the spring component of the bike.





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Looks like a couple varieties of air shock being played with also. Curious to see where this goes. Wonder if there’s any damping going on in the upper “shock?” as well or if it’s purely spring. Can we still call it a shock if it’s not handling damping duties as well?
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Erotomania90 4/23/2019 8:00pm
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Cannondale should have made a leaf spring setup with this arrangement.
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LLLLL 4/24/2019 3:26am
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My take is. The damper is based on the frame which is constant. The leverage ratio on the spring can be changed to suit the style track without effecting the frame leverage ratio on the damper. Actually really simple and very clever. Stock damper ?
I don't the the spring carrier has anything in it or very little, or just a bump stop.
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Roots_rider 4/24/2019 8:18am
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LLLLL wrote:
My take is. The damper is based on the frame which is constant. The leverage ratio on the spring can be changed to suit the style...
My take is. The damper is based on the frame which is constant. The leverage ratio on the spring can be changed to suit the style track without effecting the frame leverage ratio on the damper. Actually really simple and very clever. Stock damper ?
I don't the the spring carrier has anything in it or very little, or just a bump stop.
In which case all the comments and titles of “Two Shocks” would be inaccurate. Technically still only one shock “ie shock absorber” and a spring. Our common thought of what a Mtb shock is, has just been broken into two separate parts. They could add some really cool bottom out features into the upper assembly with all the freed up space. Thinking along the lines of the EXT HBC design.
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sspomer 4/24/2019 11:19am
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so loic showing a carbon bike. the new demo at crankworx nz was alloy, right? so curious.

also this kestrel rubicon from the mid-1990's needs to be placed in the two-shock-bike list

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Whattheheel 4/24/2019 11:45am
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Let's slap a couple Motion Flow EVO coil shocks up on that Cannondale and really blow some minds!!
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Mike_Scubadog 4/24/2019 11:50am
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Loics post is an alloy frame, you can see the welds!
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sspomer 4/24/2019 12:58pm
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Mike_Scubadog wrote:
Loics post is an alloy frame, you can see the welds!
duh. you're right. the clearcoat was so smooth i didn't even notice

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