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Jotegr Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

5/25/2026 9:08am
Not in NA Seth. Margin varies product to product, including within a model line of bikes. It's true that the bigger your order/booking, the more discount you get, but you might get 35% on an entry level hardtail and 18% on a top of the line ride.
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Goupil Liked a reply to forum topic Are downhill bikes worth it if you're not racing?

5/24/2026 2:01pm
If it makes you feel any better, I'm considering building one because I got a really really good deal on a Dorado. I live 7h from the closest lift assisted park, and ride park like once or twice a year...
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crunat Liked a reply to forum topic E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

5/24/2026 11:02am
This a common straw man argument I see on this topic. It’s important to remember that anyone capable of going that fast uphill is only do so with a lifetime of skills as a foundation . Anyone in a pro xco race is likely never putting out 1500w in that race, and if the are it’s for about 5 seconds during a sprint finish. Theres just a lot more nuance man. No human is putting out world tour sprint finish power for the same duration as a 800wh battery Humans are creatures of the path of least resistance. If you...
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owl-x Liked a reply to forum topic Are downhill bikes worth it if you're not racing?

5/24/2026 1:03am
Had to log in to say I’m proud of you all. Thank you. It can be disappointing to read all the derivative dead ends you guys can babble on about, fantasizing sports, speculative tech talk, finance guy biz (!)…so to see the unanimous support for a guy considering a DH bike is heartwarming. You haven’t totally lost it! DH bikes are the best bikes. Always. They’re the best bikes for the best stuff and they look the coolest. By far. If the place you’re riding only has one DH trail then you just ride that one over and over again...
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Buckets Up Liked a reply to forum topic What bikes have you owned?

5/24/2026 12:23am
Not sure if I should be proud or embarrassed, but I recently wrote down every bike that I’ve owned (and can remember) in a spreadsheet. Across genres including kid bikes, mountain (DH, XC, Trail), road/gravel, BMX, and dirt jumpers, I have owned 102 bikes. Some of these are just new frames with swapped over parts, but I consider that a different bike for this purpose. I might have a problem. The most bikes by far are BMX (26) and DJ (19), as I was a 6 night a week skatepark kid growing up. I wish my skills were better for...
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CascadeComponents Liked a reply to forum topic Kinematics

5/23/2026 2:16pm
A bunch of comparisons mainly looking at wheel force because that's what you really feel not the leverage curve. 160 mm bikes with different progression amounts normalized for identical sag at the wheel. Including -4%. The wheel force plot is purely looking at wheel force due to the spring. As you can see, there is a very significant difference at bottom of travel. If you were to zoom in on the sag point, you can easily see that a more progressive bike has a lower force at all points before the sag point and a higher force at all points...
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Brian_Peterson Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

5/23/2026 11:37am
I'm confident that the industry will make sure that the LBS gets the short end...
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FrontRangeFriend Liked a reply to forum topic Are downhill bikes worth it if you're not racing?

5/23/2026 11:22am
Im glad everyone understood the assignment that I needed help with my mental gymnastics lmao
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bikelurker Liked a reply to forum topic E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

5/23/2026 11:19am
Democratizing mountain biking is the most Avinox I ever read this week
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storm.racing Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker

5/22/2026 12:44pm
" My ideal bike would be carbon with coil compatibility, 29er, 120-130mm rear suspension, no flex stay, 130-150mm fork, 480-485ish reach, 440+ chainstays, no headset routing, threaded BB and decent seat post insertion. " That is exactly a Tallboy V4.1.
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Ginger_SPICE Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker

5/22/2026 12:43pm
Reeb does this with the SST.
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pinkrobe Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker

5/22/2026 12:43pm
Uh, that's most bike buyers. The number of people that I've sold bikes to who don't care/know what the knobs do is... the majority. We do our best to educate, but I could see their eyes glaze over in the first 10 seconds. The number of customers who care about how suspension works is less than 5% in my experience.
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comatosegi Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker

5/22/2026 12:42pm
Saw Kiran on alloy test mule in the winter. You cannot just make small geo changes to carbon production molds.
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matmattmatthew Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker

5/22/2026 12:41pm
Jesus, sorry I asked about a coil shock on the new Tallboy.
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Running less sag makes a bike track poorly on account of losing contact with the ground anytime there’s an indent the wheel has to go over. You see the same exact issue with people lifting vehicles to drive off road. They throw preload collars on and all of the sudden they feel the truck is harsher. The spring rate hasn’t gotten stiffer so why does it feel harsher? It’s losing contact with the ground and causing the chassis to pitch to allow a wheel to drop into a hole as soon as a hole is deeper than the amount of...
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hardbash Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker

5/22/2026 8:27am
I recently read an article by the enduro mag. They made a survey and found out that 70% of their readers that took part in the survey never changed their rebound from what the bike came with. The amount of people riding bikes that dont have a clue about basic setup is very high. For them, something like the progression rate is not relevant. We are all so far off the average user that we are not who brands have to engineer their bikes for. https://enduro-mtb.com/performance-gap-das-dilemma-moderner-bikes/
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Bobs_is_better_than_A-line Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

5/21/2026 2:48pm
Guess I will keep my mechanical normal bike and ride it like someone who purchased photoshop in 2014
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ebruner Liked a reply to forum topic E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

5/21/2026 2:03pm
I appreciate your perspective as a motorcycle and car nut from age 13 on. I just want to point out that one of the key difference between vehicles being overpowered and bikes being overpowered... is that when you get a speeding ticket, disorderly conduct ticket (display of power) or wreck your car, they don't close off access to the roads to everyone. They just take away your license, impound your vehicle and/or throw you in jail. There is no mechanic for that in the trail space and thus what happens is that the easy answer is to just remove the...
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JVP Liked a reply to forum topic E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

5/21/2026 2:02pm
You're just way off on this. I ride an eMTB.
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AndehM Liked a reply to forum topic E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

5/21/2026 2:00pm
They're dodging the issues regarding impacts to access that having stupid levels of power create. Besides the fact that they make it easy to exceed the speed limit using only a VPN, that absurd level of power makes it easy for riders to hit the 20mph limit in locations that other trail users are not expecting to encounter bikes going 20mph uphill. Saying that all that extra power makes it easier for beginners to control their bikes and improves skills is also a flat out lie - even without that extra power beginner riders were overwhelmed by run-on and controlling...
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