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They are similar to the fox ones but thread together and have some sealing/crush ptfe bands in there to hopefully prevent creaking.

Very affordable shredder. https://www.mtb-news.de/news/rose-scrub-erster-test/

More likely trying still trying to sell the absolute boatload of the old ones they've got sat on showroom floors and in warehouses before making them even more worthless (my friend just bought one at 30% off from Trek!) by being superceded.

Harry Potter and the Overly Elaborate Negative Air Chamber.

the other site seems to have more and more saying the new slash is the one posted awhile back and not being far away, Some were onboard for it to be the remedy - Id still like to believe its a remedy as the 36 at what looked to be 160mm travel.

Also, that graphic doesn't make much sense. Doesn't seem feasible for the air chamber above the air spring piston (typically the +) to be a both negative above and below the air spring piston. Something is a bit out of whack there, but I am not an engineer either so...?

is it bad that all this just makes me want a metal coil.

Had a feeling you were going to bring this up. If I recall correctly, the primary reason for the tube within a tube design for the air spring had more to do with spring rates than anything else... Again, I could be wrong, but that is what I recall learning about that system.

Using the crown as a connection could potentially make it possible to use the damper side lowers as a spring as well. In that case the wipers would have to hold the pressure. Unlikely, but the catch is that sealing the stanchion into the crown (and sealing the crown-steerer interface) would be a bit of a challenge, that's why I imagined a connection all the way across could be made. Thus also the lubricating oil. Searching for how Fox made the 38 spring (they use a cartridge instead of relying on the stanchions as the spring housing) I came across...

Wiper seals are meant to keep dirt/grime OUT. Not air in, that is what the seals on the air spring side do. Yes, air can/will get trapped in the lowers. This design should not have an impact on how air could potentially pass from the uppers into the crown if in the event of this hollow crown being developed. AND it would be highly unlikely the design would allow damper oil to pass to the air side (I could be wrong), patents are typically drawn up in a way that could show the options/possibilities to cover full breadth of designs...

It's pretty cool that Fox appears to be using generative design to save weight on the arch and crown. If you're not familiar with generative design, here's a definition from Autodesk: Generative design is a design exploration process. Designers or engineers input design goals into the generative design software, along with parameters such as performance or spatial requirements, materials, manufacturing methods, and cost constraints. The software explores all the possible permutations of a solution, quickly generating design alternatives. It tests and learns from each iteration what works and what doesn’t. More info: https://www.autodesk.com/solutions/generative-design

Landing biggish jumps is almost a separate activity than trail riding. Your wobble is probably two wobbles--the first from reacting to the sudden change in head tube angle as the fork compresses, and the second from the front wheel unweighting as the shock compresses. Increasing the spring rates and/or low-speed compression damping in shock and fork should reduce the wobbles. That this bike has 200mm of rear travel and 170mm of front may present further difficulty @Big Bird: lessons in stack +++

TLDR: Personal bike fit has a steep learning curve, don’t max out your budget until you have been on many bikes. I prefer bikes roughly a size smaller than 2023 recommendations. Nimbility ftw! Long version: I am 6’4” with long arms and I have had bikes from 460 to 515 reach. My preferred reach is 480-485 on all trails. I like the bar to feel like it is under my chest so I have a lot of strength in corners and do not have to shift my weight forward to get front end grip. Additionally, shifting my weight back on...

But the total volume stays the same and the surface area the pressure applies to also stays the same. That's why I'm wondering if the total force across both sides might actually stay the same...

Awesome, thanks for the tips!

I had a secus in my A1 zeb ultimate and now a smashpot. Always ran it at 170mm. The secus was a fantastic upgrade to the zeb over the standard A1/B1 air spring and the smashpot was once again, a great upgrade over the secus. I can't say which one I preferred more as both were very good... In the end, I'd say the choice comes down to if you want to be weight concious and if you prefer the rebound feel or air vs coil. I don't think i was giving up anything in terms of performance between the...

Good to hear, everybody loves it! they changed the shrinkwrap on fox 36's to an isolator for 2023, just FYI.