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Too much incoherent babbling. Is GT out of business?

Well Magura also uses plastic master cylinders with wood screws...

I think he's saying that the hopes don't have enough positive feedback at the lever when they make contact with the rotor. Having positive feedback when the brakes bite at the lever isn't mutually exclusive to having a light dead stroke and good modulation. I haven't used hopes before so I don't know how they feel, but if it is hard to feel when they bite I totally understand not liking them for that reason.

Correct, the Hopes lack feedback when the pads contact the rotor. There’s also a lot of physical lever movement required to go from say 10% to 60% brake force. I’m pretty sure this is just a limitation of physics when the master cylinder has a big mechanical advantage over the pistons and you don’t have a cam or link to change the movement ratio from the lever. The mavens require far less lever travel to ramp up in brake force. This gives them an initial impression of being grabby and lacking modulation. After a few laps, you realize that they’re...

The limited edition ultimate kit that they were provided with for review includes the metallic pads. They just chose not to use them for some reason.

The heavy pull force on mavens is only the static friction breakaway force as you move past the start of the cam. It’s a bit like getting a Shimano servowave lever moving. Once you have the brake lever moved a couple of mm it lightens up dramatically. If you’re dragging the brakes you’re not fighting it. That’s the elephant in the room that Dale Stone’s test did not show. It’s borderline disingenuous that he failed to explain it IMO. Also the Enduro-MTB dyno test sold Mavens short because they tested them with organic pads against brakes with metallic pads or...

people complain about a stiff lever but i've had considerably less hand fatigue since I started using them, which was huge as I suffered from bad hand/finger/thumb cramps.

same, prob due to the much stronger power and actually less lever force needed to get the power. this whole "stiff lever breakaway" argument does not hold up in my personal riding experiences with mavens. love em.

Dale stone, the guy who portrays that he 'knows it all' but has a terrible brake technique and blames all the brakes.

now i see why you don't like Dale, cause he did not like the Mavens, if you're strong as and an amazing rider that brakes only when needed, good on you, still those brake could've been executed better with a lighter lever pull. After all riding on gnarly trails causes hand fatigue, the less i can get from components the better, and brakes is one of the main one.

Dale's "experience" contradicts everyone else's. So much so that NSMB actually went out of their way to call it out. Ride them before you talk shit. His lever force test was pseudoscientific junk at best.