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Togger250 Liked a reply to forum topic 2024 TEAM RUMORS

1/15/2024 9:18am
BOOM!!! Called it. Well...3 out of 4 Sick team. And having Olly Morris on board providing the coaching and management side of things will be great as well.
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bizutch Liked a reply to forum topic 2024 TEAM RUMORS

1/15/2024 8:14am
Childhood impure thoughts unlocked unexpectedly.
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notthatbryan Added a reply to MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

1/15/2024 8:03am
I agree that more damping, less spring is a better end solution. After getting a tuned Grip 2 I dropped 10psi from my setup. I've got an Ohlins rear shock on one bike and a Manitou on another. Both are more heavily damped than the fox shocks they replaced. The only downside to Ohlins rear shocks is the inability to...

Big Bird Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

1/15/2024 7:51am
Has anyone seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO6DUSKhbRU It's a whole new hub design that seems to have a lot of merits.
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pedalpedalpedal Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

1/15/2024 7:45am
I am going to spell it out for everyone here that has less experience with Trolls. Someone is purposefully saying silly things to rile you up, just ignore it. Do not reply. Not even a little bit. Just let the stupid comment die in the wind. Then it wont be fun for them anymore and maybe, if we are lucky, we can move on with our lives
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anotherbikerguy Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

1/15/2024 7:07am
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TheSuspensionLabNZ Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

1/15/2024 6:16am
Yeah its that basic stuff that makes the most difference and has more room for gains. The window of different damping tunes to cover every rider is much smaller than people think, especially for forks! So that should be taken care of early in the season and the rest of the time only needs to be a few clicks of damping here and there. The hierachy of set up priorities, with diminishing returns from each step would be - Tyre pressure Servicing/Friction Spring rate Volume spacers damping clickers internal valving At least at a race - it is possible someone...
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SteveClimber Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

1/15/2024 6:16am
The underrated part of suspension tuning is riders get confident to what they feel use to. Case in point, every WC racer on Fox forks. When your hitting corners as hard as they are, you just want it to feel the same as it did previously, when you didn't die. But from a race/engineering standpoint, Fox forks incredible reliance on spring force and lack of damping is objectively worse than Ohlins/Rock Shox, but being very strong and getting use to it, you can be just as fast through rider adaption. Now for these riders to swap they products feel worse/not...
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SteveClimber Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

1/15/2024 5:44am
Yeah pretty much. You have a baseline setting and its tweaked for each track, and since they race the tracks each year pretty much they know a very solid starting setup (obviously conditions change that). My point was more about how, from an engineering stand point Fox products use a lot more spring force for support than their competitors (Ohlins generally are the most damped products from stock, with Rockshox in the middle) But once you get used to a setup, you just run that. You do major swaps between season (notice how most riders stick to the same frame...
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blensen Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

1/14/2024 8:01pm
Rebuilds and service for sponsored riders are the reason most of the vendors are there. Fox, RS/Sram, DT Swiss, etc.
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notthatbryan Added a reply to MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

1/14/2024 7:03pm
My understanding is that major tuning for both forks and shocks is done ahead of time with the teams and riders. This allows much more time for testing. That way riders are just making small changes to fine tune for each track. I don't think there is time for major changes at every WC race.

CascadeComponents Liked a reply to forum topic Brake Rotor thickness vs size talk

1/14/2024 12:56pm
If you reset your pistons, pad retract is always relative to the braking surface so you have the same pad clearance regardless of rotor thickness. Increasing rotor thickness will only impact the clearance/dead stroke if you don’t reset the pistons, but over time as your pads wear it will work its way to the same spot.
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Dave_Camp Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

1/14/2024 8:14am
I’d agree- dyno doesn’t always tell the full story. It’s an extremely useful tool but you must do blind ride testing as well. MTB suspension testing is incredibly difficult and frustrating from my experience.
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notthatbryan Added a reply to MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

1/14/2024 7:23am
I fixed it by getting a tuned damper. Now I can run more LSC for better stability / less dive without the sharpness on impacts. I think the grip 2 is probably fine for most people and the 2024 changes sound like they address the sharpness that happens when closing LSC on the previous year grip 2. That's what I...

Glory831Guy Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

1/14/2024 7:18am
Agreed, I can definitely feel a difference in the HSC settings on my 38. Too little and the front end will feel more knifey and oversteer in hard cornering. Too much HSC and the front end doesn't settle and kind of understeers in hard cornering/ heavy load situations. The point about rebound is moot IMO. My 38 even has the low rebound "traction tune" and I run it close to fully open. I have a factory 34 on a different bike, rebound is nearly fully open. I had a coil 40 on my old Glory, and I ran the rebound...
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notthatbryan Added a reply to The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

1/13/2024 5:09pm
Companies across the cycling market from LBS, to component manufacturers, and all the way to bike companies will continue to go under throughout 2024 and likely into 2025 unless demand picks up in spring 2024. We have only started to see the beginning of the closures.

notthatbryan Added a reply to Brake Rotor thickness vs size talk

1/13/2024 1:43pm
Increasing rotor mass increases thermal capacity, that works both for thicker and/ or larger diameter rotors. Generally this is a positive but taken to the extreme it can mean that the pads and rotors don't reach effective operating temperature. Think xc bike running 2.3mm thick 220 diameter rotors. For most people this isn't a problem. Thicker rotors will also feel...

Mafflin Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

1/13/2024 10:41am
It's simply the old Blur 2018-2021.
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notthatbryan Added a reply to MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

1/13/2024 8:35am
Also lines up with the sales Fox has had running across most products, and the confirmation of an updated Grip 2 damper. The updates to the Grip 2 seem to address the biggest flaw. As you add compression damping the damper starts to spike and gets a harsh edge to impacts. I notice it, but I'm sensitive to it because...