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gibbon Liked a reply to forum topic Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
4/12/2024 9:13am The Oreo money has arrived ....... PRESS RELEASE: Freeride Mountain Bike Association (FMBA) and Crankworx The Freeride Mountain Bike Association (FMBA) and Crankworx have reached an agreement with the male athletes, allowing the men’s Slopestyle World Championship to take place as planned for the remaining 2024 FMB World Tour Season. After having the time to meet for a series of conversations, it became evident that the FMBA, serving as the sport’s governing body, the athletes, and Crankworx as the series organizer, share unified and aligned goals, and are working together to ensure the sport’s sustainability, and making the SWC events...
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beaverbiker Liked a reply to forum topic Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
4/1/2024 11:35am It wouldn't be awkward at all. That's how people in real life support themselves every day. Why should it be any different for slope riders? It has nothing to do with suffering, and everything to do with life choices. Plenty of us would love to be paid for a hobby, but we realize we could have a better life by working a regular job and participating in that hobby however we want. Some people are fine living the dirtbag lifestyle, but I don't want to hear them complain about how broke they are. Slopestyle is a hobby. If it went...
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iceman2058 Liked a reply to forum topic Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
3/29/2024 10:05am Statement from the FMB World Tour: "The Freeride Mountain Bike Association e.V. (FMBA), as the governing body for Slopestyle, Dirt and Freeride Mountain biking and the organiser of the FMB World Tour, acknowledges the concerns that the male Slopestyle athletes voiced during the first Diamond Level Slopestyle Event of the 2024 season at Crankworx Rotorua. The FMBA respects the decision of the athletes to boycott the event but we strongly disagree with the process, method and timing of this action. We are committed to seeking viable solutions to uphold a sustainable future for the sport, benefiting both current and upcoming...
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mtbman99 Liked a reply to forum topic Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
3/29/2024 10:04am People have tried to bring up equivalents like privateer dh and enduro racers. They pay their own way. The issue is the whole bike industry is built around events that pay little prize money and no appearance money for any of the sports(it’s actually the opposite for dh/enduro in a lot of cases where they pay to compete) What the slope guys are asking for would need to be addressed as sport on the whole not just for slope. Where does the money come from is the next question? The sponsors paying the riders already? The event organizer that’s handing...
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Mas Liked a reply to forum topic Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
3/29/2024 10:04am They're bargaining for pay from people who don't pay them and have no responsibility to do so. If you aren't making enough as a professional bike rider to cover your expenses and make a living you should reevaluate your choice to be a professional bike rider. I'd love to make the money I make now riding bikes. I'll be first in line if someone is cutting checks to cover what I don't make off my ability or marketable value. That's not some hot take, it's economics.
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jeff.brines Liked a reply to forum topic Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
3/29/2024 10:02am Wow. This thread is fun. Few thoughts I feel compelled to share. 1) I personally am not anti-union. I am however suggesting its important to know "what value you bring to the table" (individually or as a group). Any group of people can unionize, it doesn't mean there is underlying value that will result in pay increases (or pay at all). 2) Wu-Tang said it best. CREAM. This doesn't just go for the riders, but the promoters and anyone trying to get paid off of this sport. Unfortunately, the (free) "cash (flow) pie" is highly unlikely to be big enough...
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Brian_Peterson Liked a reply to forum topic Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
3/29/2024 10:01am The riders want a sustainable future for the slope style riders... Fair enough.. However, it's a 2 way street.. Running these events has to be profitable for the organizers to remain sustainable. If these events were to go away, then these riders have to find other sources of income.. You gotta be careful not to price yourself out of the picture.
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Mas Liked a reply to forum topic Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
3/29/2024 10:00am I don't think anyone is arguing they shouldn't be paid, it's understanding who should be paying them. That's where the NFL metaphor comes in. You get paid by your team, not the stadium, not the town, not the people buying beers, your team. Want more money? Get sponsors, they pay you as well. If Geico sponsors you and also owns the stadium you aren't tracking down the field manager and demanding a payout or you won't play. It isn't about the amounts. People make $20k a year at a desk, people make $10 million a year at a desk. People...
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Brian_Peterson Liked a reply to forum topic Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
3/27/2024 10:41pm If 2 months before the contest word had gotten out that the original invited riders weren't going to show up, there would have 100 other guys who would been stepping on their own d__ks to get a spot in that contest..
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bizutch Liked a reply to forum topic Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
3/27/2024 10:41pm Here's the thing. That rider "protest" didn't screw them. It screwed thousands of people who either planned to work the event to put food on the table (cause nobody working Crankworx is living large). They screwed the town, community, restaurants, transportation companies, food vendors, booth workers, trail builders, course volunteers who gave up a week of their lives to do something cool and fun, thousands of hungry fans who CHOSE to come see them instead of have a fun week/weekend. They built animosity for the tourism bureau, the resort that allowed the event promoter to have it, the freaking bus...
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Mr Refreshinglygood Liked a reply to forum topic Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
3/27/2024 2:20pm Lets not forget that all of this is a money making enterprise. Everything from the pins on the pedals to the rider standing on the podium. There is someone, or a corporation putting money into it all to make money. Just like any work place if the organisation/shop/company/not for profit does not make money it does not survive. We are more and more seeing people demanding more and more from the ecosystem. There will always be a need to advocate for better conditions, more pay better work life balance but there is ultimately a time where it puts pressure on...
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Bobs_is_better_than_A-line Added a reply to Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
3/27/2024 12:13pm I think a lot of what they pay him is hush money for obscuring the fact that he is running full 27.5 on his habit.
bizutch Liked a reply to forum topic Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
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Sakes Liked a reply to forum topic Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
3/27/2024 9:10am Aren't the riders just barking up the wrong tree? I get the safety part of it, but it isn't on Crankworx to pay the riders is it? Ask your sponsor. They don't want to pay you more? Well, time to realize your worth, whats happening in the industry, and go do something else to finance your hobby.
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bizutch Liked a reply to forum topic Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
3/27/2024 9:09am Yeah...trying to get young dudes to grasp that "Pay is pay. Work is work" and you can't reinvent it. Work first. Then Receive your pay. One other story about comps like this. Was invited to race one of the RedBull Urban DH races. Organizers were very well off. Offered to pay ALL my expenses if I got there. Food/Lodging/On-site Transport/Entry (even sent me dozens of pics of the most gorgeous womenin their friends/party crew "eager" to meet the racers). They 100% declined to pay ANY airfare. I couldn't get my passport re-upped in time. They ask me to reach out...
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beaverbiker Liked a reply to forum topic Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
3/26/2024 4:26pm They can get a regular job to fund their slopestyle hobby until it pays off for them. You don't have to be broke and living in a van if you don't want to. A friend of mine raced world cup DH and was an electrician in the off season. The dude had tons of money to fund his endeavors on top of what sponsors were supporting him with. It's not unreasonable to think any of the slopestyle guys can be doing the same. With that financial freedom, they can pick and choose which events they want to ride...and not show...
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beaverbiker Liked a reply to forum topic Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
3/26/2024 4:00pm I agree. I'm an engineering manager for a massive aerospace company worth $6B+ and they don't buy me lunch every day. They expect me to manage my finances so that I can feed myself, travel to and from work, and perform the job they paid me to do. This is a company makes the Crankworx organization look like a kids lemonade stand, and all they do is pay me a salary to do a single job. Just like the sponsors are paying these guys to show up to comps and do a job. Obviously not all jobs are the same...
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bizutch Liked a reply to forum topic Slopestyle Riders Boycott Crankworx Rotorua Because of Low Prize Pay, Lack of Appearance Fee
3/26/2024 3:59pm Man...the appearance fee, wanting food & accommodation...those are benefits not even employees can get. Sorry, but this reads as Gen Z bullshit. Don't fly to the OTHER END OF THE WORLD to spin your bike in the air for a few if you don't have your own money, sponsors, contracts, insurance & extradition in order. These guys are talking like they are a single entity that supplies Crankworx with a set pool of "performers" for a "show". If that's the case, they should have NAMED a FLAT appearance fee for their collective/entity/company (insert name of freeriders here). You want to...
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newuser123 Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
3/26/2024 12:06pm lol they deleted my pic of the new altitude. hahahah. Just a picture of a bike in a parking lot with tape on it. Of all the spied pics here they delete that one? lol
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