As you get older, the line between kook and core starts to blur. You go along thinking something you're doing is a core mtb move, only...
As you get older, the line between kook and core starts to blur. You go along thinking something you're doing is a core mtb move, only to find out later that it's kooky. Of course, vice/versa is true.
Party shirts? Are kooks actually core? Is Evan's MTB Saga core?
these engagement bait titles are gettin good!the first rule of core club, is you do NOT. TALK. ABOUT core club. jokes aside, ya know being from...
these engagement bait titles are gettin good!
the first rule of core club, is you do NOT. TALK. ABOUT core club. jokes aside, ya know being from surf culture the most core thing is inherently the idea of surfing alone, at lesser known beach breaks, especially if the waves aren't even that good. and you're just groveling and out there for yourself, no social element, even when its not convenient.
and there is a large amount of crossover to this concept to MTBing. ya know going to a well known trail center, and riding the trails that are like top ranked on trailforks, with a group of people to socialize with... is totally great but there's nothing inherently core about it. that's just... like a generic enjoyable hobby. there's technically not TOO much separating that from a book club
heh
similar to skating, just going to purpose built skatepark is not inherently seen as core. where as street skating, curb skating, and pool skating (or diy spots) is seen as more core, even more so if you do it alone.
So the narrative is... Are you riding even when it's super inconvenient? Are you riding trails you cut yourself? Or rough cut rake and ride trails? Or lesser known trails that run like crap? And is there ANY evidence that you did so? Did you need the validation of strava or a gopro recording?
To ride completely for yourself, where ONLY you know it happened, and on trails (or jump lines) that most people are avoiding for whatever reason... Is the apotheosis of core. Also if you are a soul skater... Jason, are you an Airborne fan or a Brink fan? lol
damn, i just came to the realization my brains definition of core / kook was formed via Brink.
these engagement bait titles are gettin good!the first rule of core club, is you do NOT. TALK. ABOUT core club. jokes aside, ya know being from...
these engagement bait titles are gettin good!
the first rule of core club, is you do NOT. TALK. ABOUT core club. jokes aside, ya know being from surf culture the most core thing is inherently the idea of surfing alone, at lesser known beach breaks, especially if the waves aren't even that good. and you're just groveling and out there for yourself, no social element, even when its not convenient.
and there is a large amount of crossover to this concept to MTBing. ya know going to a well known trail center, and riding the trails that are like top ranked on trailforks, with a group of people to socialize with... is totally great but there's nothing inherently core about it. that's just... like a generic enjoyable hobby. there's technically not TOO much separating that from a book club
heh
similar to skating, just going to purpose built skatepark is not inherently seen as core. where as street skating, curb skating, and pool skating (or diy spots) is seen as more core, even more so if you do it alone.
So the narrative is... Are you riding even when it's super inconvenient? Are you riding trails you cut yourself? Or rough cut rake and ride trails? Or lesser known trails that run like crap? And is there ANY evidence that you did so? Did you need the validation of strava or a gopro recording?
To ride completely for yourself, where ONLY you know it happened, and on trails (or jump lines) that most people are avoiding for whatever reason... Is the apotheosis of core. Also if you are a soul skater... Jason, are you an Airborne fan or a Brink fan? lol
As you get older, the line between kook and core starts to blur. You go along thinking something you're doing is a core mtb move, only...
As you get older, the line between kook and core starts to blur. You go along thinking something you're doing is a core mtb move, only to find out later that it's kooky. Of course, vice/versa is true.
Party shirts? Are kooks actually core? Is Evan's MTB Saga core?
Woof... these are tough calls. Going to put away my participation trophy, all inclusive mindset for a moment and put on my 27 year old self mindset that is 5 beers in and screaming 'yardsale' at people from the chairlift.
Party shirts are kook, unless you're wearing one and hitting 90% of the following checklist: 7mesh/dharco pants, full face helmet, mirrored goggles, sick dh bike build or at least well loved, no water bottle in hand and drinking directly from the water bottle fill in the lift line and most importantly shredded elbows/forearms with either old or fresh wounds.
As far as Evan's MTB Saga... I'd say he's at most, 10% core. Not trying to throw shade here, but his videos are built for the click bait and the algorithm. Tough to be core when you're making things that the machine wants you to make for the views. On the flip side, he probably represents what at least half of the mountain biking content consuming demo are into... so, I guess the question becomes, is mainstream ever core?
I was in the bikeshop last night picking up some parts and I heard/identified one of the least core tropes imaginable in this space. Going into the bike shop and referencing any opinions you have as, "My buddy says..."
This is a hilariously weird thread. Please all have your fun here, then stop thinking about this, get off work, and go jump some bump humps for your own good.
This is inherently exclusive (and some might consider it a negative) to have this kind of label - a label is on or off, you are or are not.
What defines a punk or hardcore kid? Do I have to have a mohawk? Do I have to circle pit? Or can I wear comfortable Brooks running shoes, and a Costco sweater to a Botch show? Apparently not cause I was told I look out of place, like a dad. Did I take offense to that? A little bit, but that's also punk, isn't it? Going against the grain of the cultural norm?
Throughout covid we saw such an insane boom of the riding population here in the Seattle area - the judgment of all of these new riders was off the charts. These folks are blowing up my spot and my sport. GET OUT, GO BACK TO REI AND DIE.
For all of my twenties and early 30s, I defined myself as a mountain biker. I ate, drink, breathe, immersed myself in it, but I also rode BMX, fixed gears, road bikes - still though, I was a "mountain biker". My wife has called my relationship with bikes "my mistress". Now, I don't really care and find the idea of "core" as annoying.
This whole thing can be taken in such a deep direction, we can be labeled or we cannot. Some philosophers like to question how we define our identities - are you your name, sex, relationship, occupation? Your ego's interpretation? Or are you a speck of dust in this infinite universe?
I guess this concept worked because I thought about it so much after listening, journaled about it, and had to do something with it.
This is a hilariously weird thread. Please all have your fun here, then stop thinking about this, get off work, and go jump some bump humps...
This is a hilariously weird thread. Please all have your fun here, then stop thinking about this, get off work, and go jump some bump humps for your own good.
this is the inherent problem about having this conversation.
its WAY too juicy (and easy) to moral high ground it.
this conversation was over before it even started lol
the gate to access gate keeping is... closed
let's just go back to ignoring it and pretending it doesn't exist because not everyone wants to talk about it
poor Jason gonna have to realize he wasted all that time talking about something that isn't ok to talk about, and that he should ride his bike instead. poor dude
these engagement bait titles are gettin good!the first rule of core club, is you do NOT. TALK. ABOUT core club. jokes aside, ya know being from...
these engagement bait titles are gettin good!
the first rule of core club, is you do NOT. TALK. ABOUT core club. jokes aside, ya know being from surf culture the most core thing is inherently the idea of surfing alone, at lesser known beach breaks, especially if the waves aren't even that good. and you're just groveling and out there for yourself, no social element, even when its not convenient.
and there is a large amount of crossover to this concept to MTBing. ya know going to a well known trail center, and riding the trails that are like top ranked on trailforks, with a group of people to socialize with... is totally great but there's nothing inherently core about it. that's just... like a generic enjoyable hobby. there's technically not TOO much separating that from a book club
heh
similar to skating, just going to purpose built skatepark is not inherently seen as core. where as street skating, curb skating, and pool skating (or diy spots) is seen as more core, even more so if you do it alone.
So the narrative is... Are you riding even when it's super inconvenient? Are you riding trails you cut yourself? Or rough cut rake and ride trails? Or lesser known trails that run like crap? And is there ANY evidence that you did so? Did you need the validation of strava or a gopro recording?
To ride completely for yourself, where ONLY you know it happened, and on trails (or jump lines) that most people are avoiding for whatever reason... Is the apotheosis of core. Also if you are a soul skater... Jason, are you an Airborne fan or a Brink fan? lol
Fun convo as usual. Starting with skateboarding in the mid/late 80s), then snowboarding & mtb from 91+, I’ve always thought of myself as "core" On one hand, it's a way to identify, bond, and build community - who you want to be and be with. On the other hand, like insulting others, it can be a way to boost yourself in your own mind. If you’re core, you ID others as core and "in," while everyone else is "out" and is fodder for jokes. By excluding them, you secure your group.
I don’t know if I can ever give the idea up though. 36 years deep, mtb and snowboarding are central to my daily life, where I live, why I work, and the ride crew, with some of us 30+ years together. We endlessly judge bikes, gear, kit, rides, moves, and times (and some fall out because life involves other things too). We despise when shit companies, movies / ads / media, etc. portray mtb in ways that are stupid, wrong, supposed to be cool but are just pandering to masses - like how everything awesome gets marketed and crushed since the 60's onward.
Even within biking there’s "core" and "not-core," but it’s a false idea and an illusion. For example, XC riding, racing & gear are the antithesis of everything that rocks in mtb. As a look and race style, I mock its dopey kit & spandex fit, watermelon helmets, fingerless gloves, click-clack Pinocchio shoes, and dork glasses... but I know real XC riders destroy, have a blast, would nuke me any day all day, and have their own crews of XC breh and sistren. I even have an XC bike I like for the right terrain, though I sitll wear my trail gear as normal... can't go there b/c I'm too core in my mind
I guess "core" is just an idea we fool ourselves with to define us versus them, and what & who we think is cool. It's really just another label that divides us, even if I’ll probably never get it out of my head.
I do enjoy seeing those kind of topics come up, and I think that there can't be a definitive answer. Being "core" depends on everyone's point of view since there is no fixed point of view on that.
But I do think that there are some basic "core" values related to mountain biking, as there are core values in the hardcore music scene for example.
Core MTB values that help the community stay fun : respect the trail work, respect other riders and their skillset, be courteous in the trails and help build trails if you can.
Fun convo as usual. On one hand, :core" is just a way to identify, bond, and build community first and foremost. On the other hand, like insulting others, it can be a way to boost yourself in your own mind. If you’re core, you ID others as core to be "in," while everyone else becomes fodder for jokes; by excluding them, you secure your group.
I doubt I'll ever give the idea up though. 36 years deep, mtb is central to my daily life, where I live & bought my home, why I work, how I speak, and the ride crew, with some of us 30+ years together. We endlessly judge bikes, gear, kit, rides, moves, and times (and when some of us fall out because life involves other things too). At the same time I welcome and encourage any newcomers and have made new mtb friends this way, taking them from utter Kookdom to the Realms of Core
Even within biking there’s "core" and "not-core"... XC isn’t in my concept of core. As a look and race style, I mock its dopey tight kit, watermelon helmets, fingerless gloves, Pinocchio shoes, and dork glasses... but I know real XC riders destroy, have a blast, would nuke me any day all day, and have their own crews of XC breh and sistren. I even have an XC bike I like for the right terrain, though I’d never wear the look..Maybe start XC races with the top riders at the back, let them win that way, then we'll talk about XC core!
I guess "core" is just an idea we fool ourselves with to define us versus them, and what we think is cool. It's really just another label that divides us, even if I’ll probably never get it out of my head... what to do?
Being "core" has got to be similar to it's musical definition. Shops that work and create that DIY / Grassroots scene are core. Whether its events, group rides, classes, sponsoring local activities, trail work. For individuals it has got to be the same. Go to grassroots events, go fix your local trails, donate your old shit to a bicycle kitchen. If you aren't interacting with your local scene it doesn't really matter how long you have been riding, can you really call yourself core?
I'm not sure anyone who's one PB or Vital forums can claim to be core. When I think of core, I think of dudes that ride and spend their free time riding and building in the woods without a second thought about what's happening on the internets. Two I can think of are:
Honza in Squamish - rides a clapped out Guerilla Gravity frame, the same TLD kit and builds the most ridiculous features you can imagine (the Gender Bender drop, the canyon gap, the log ride over the waterfall, etc)
Jasper Penton - no one has ever had more style on a bike. He appeared on social media for a minute and then disappeared into the ether (or maybe jail, depending on what rumours you believe...)
Cool topic. But isn't there a thing about once you give something a name, it's not cool anymore?
Core-est person I've seen in person? Myles Rockwell at Angel Fire. PUSH bro Darren. Hole-y gloves and old school TLD make it legit. This was before "core" was invented.
Anyways...See you guys for dawnpatrol tomorrow am before the sup'ers take all the parking spots by the dirt jumps. Bring your green flats! So core! :D
I'm not sure anyone who's one PB or Vital forums can claim to be core. When I think of core, I think of dudes that ride...
I'm not sure anyone who's one PB or Vital forums can claim to be core. When I think of core, I think of dudes that ride and spend their free time riding and building in the woods without a second thought about what's happening on the internets. Two I can think of are:
Honza in Squamish - rides a clapped out Guerilla Gravity frame, the same TLD kit and builds the most ridiculous features you can imagine (the Gender Bender drop, the canyon gap, the log ride over the waterfall, etc)
Jasper Penton - no one has ever had more style on a bike. He appeared on social media for a minute and then disappeared into the ether (or maybe jail, depending on what rumours you believe...)
I went down a Jasper Penton wormhole one day while bored... I won't speculate on any legal issues, but there were quite a few folks in England claiming that he still rides regularly at their locals and just doesn't care about the social media and "professional" side of it anymore. This was deep in the comments section of some video or on reddit... I can't remember.
I'm not sure anyone who's one PB or Vital forums can claim to be core. When I think of core, I think of dudes that ride...
I'm not sure anyone who's one PB or Vital forums can claim to be core. When I think of core, I think of dudes that ride and spend their free time riding and building in the woods without a second thought about what's happening on the internets. Two I can think of are:
Honza in Squamish - rides a clapped out Guerilla Gravity frame, the same TLD kit and builds the most ridiculous features you can imagine (the Gender Bender drop, the canyon gap, the log ride over the waterfall, etc)
Jasper Penton - no one has ever had more style on a bike. He appeared on social media for a minute and then disappeared into the ether (or maybe jail, depending on what rumours you believe...)
Oh this reminds me of another really good example. I suppose he's gotten more media attention and sponsors with his involvement in Rampage digging but... Sammy has been the core-est of core for a while now. Long before he got 'credit' for it: https://www.instagram.com/rocksdirtand.bones/
Also I don't know if it's been broached yet but it is nearly impossible for an e biker that is not either paid to be riding it or hauling at least 40 lbs of tools to go dig to be core. I might even argue if you are not on the world tour of your discipline getting paid to ride one is not enough to make you core.
Also I don't know if it's been broached yet but it is nearly impossible for an e biker that is not either paid to be riding...
Also I don't know if it's been broached yet but it is nearly impossible for an e biker that is not either paid to be riding it or hauling at least 40 lbs of tools to go dig to be core. I might even argue if you are not on the world tour of your discipline getting paid to ride one is not enough to make you core.
E-bike saves me so much time dealing with blowdowns I have to bring extra fuel for the chainsaw because I get to so many more spots in a day.
Also I don't know if it's been broached yet but it is nearly impossible for an e biker that is not either paid to be riding...
Also I don't know if it's been broached yet but it is nearly impossible for an e biker that is not either paid to be riding it or hauling at least 40 lbs of tools to go dig to be core. I might even argue if you are not on the world tour of your discipline getting paid to ride one is not enough to make you core.
I had to chew on that sentence structure for a couple minutes. seems like 'ebike = not core' is the jist
One thing I will say, as an anti e biker guy, is almost ALL the guys who put in the most work for trail maintenance now ride eebz. And they get a fcuk ton done. So yeah, not very core, not for me, but there are a ton of dudes using it as a tool to do the most core thing imaginable. Credit where its due.
I had to chew on that sentence structure for a couple minutes. seems like 'ebike = not core' is the jistOne thing I will say, as...
I had to chew on that sentence structure for a couple minutes. seems like 'ebike = not core' is the jist
One thing I will say, as an anti e biker guy, is almost ALL the guys who put in the most work for trail maintenance now ride eebz. And they get a fcuk ton done. So yeah, not very core, not for me, but there are a ton of dudes using it as a tool to do the most core thing imaginable. Credit where its due.
The same is true here as well. Shop dudes on pro form eebs putting in work.
True Core isn't discussed, claimed, or performative. It just is. Anyone that claims to be core, isn't. Anyone talking about what is or is not core, isn't. Anyone that puts any effort into being core, isn't. Core just doing it for the love of it with zero concern for whatever is going on around you.
Unfortunately for us in here neither age, experience, knowledge, or riding ability, makes us core. I would surmise that there are very few true core people out there in the rest of the world, and they likely don't care about receiving the title if they are identified.
Also I don't know if it's been broached yet but it is nearly impossible for an e biker that is not either paid to be riding...
Also I don't know if it's been broached yet but it is nearly impossible for an e biker that is not either paid to be riding it or hauling at least 40 lbs of tools to go dig to be core. I might even argue if you are not on the world tour of your discipline getting paid to ride one is not enough to make you core.
I had to chew on that sentence structure for a couple minutes. seems like 'ebike = not core' is the jistOne thing I will say, as...
I had to chew on that sentence structure for a couple minutes. seems like 'ebike = not core' is the jist
One thing I will say, as an anti e biker guy, is almost ALL the guys who put in the most work for trail maintenance now ride eebz. And they get a fcuk ton done. So yeah, not very core, not for me, but there are a ton of dudes using it as a tool to do the most core thing imaginable. Credit where its due.
There is a reason I added the caveats I did about digging and maintaining.
True Core isn't discussed, claimed, or performative. It just is. Anyone that claims to be core, isn't. Anyone talking about what is or is not core...
True Core isn't discussed, claimed, or performative. It just is. Anyone that claims to be core, isn't. Anyone talking about what is or is not core, isn't. Anyone that puts any effort into being core, isn't. Core just doing it for the love of it with zero concern for whatever is going on around you.
Unfortunately for us in here neither age, experience, knowledge, or riding ability, makes us core. I would surmise that there are very few true core people out there in the rest of the world, and they likely don't care about receiving the title if they are identified.
It is ironic because embracing being cringe puts you on the highest plane
Party shirts? Are kooks actually core? Is Evan's MTB Saga core?
damn, i just came to the realization my brains definition of core / kook was formed via Brink.
team pup n suds > team X bladeZ
i CHOOSE to ride for kibbles n bits
Woof... these are tough calls. Going to put away my participation trophy, all inclusive mindset for a moment and put on my 27 year old self mindset that is 5 beers in and screaming 'yardsale' at people from the chairlift.
Party shirts are kook, unless you're wearing one and hitting 90% of the following checklist: 7mesh/dharco pants, full face helmet, mirrored goggles, sick dh bike build or at least well loved, no water bottle in hand and drinking directly from the water bottle fill in the lift line and most importantly shredded elbows/forearms with either old or fresh wounds.
As far as Evan's MTB Saga... I'd say he's at most, 10% core. Not trying to throw shade here, but his videos are built for the click bait and the algorithm. Tough to be core when you're making things that the machine wants you to make for the views. On the flip side, he probably represents what at least half of the mountain biking content consuming demo are into... so, I guess the question becomes, is mainstream ever core?
I was in the bikeshop last night picking up some parts and I heard/identified one of the least core tropes imaginable in this space. Going into the bike shop and referencing any opinions you have as, "My buddy says..."
This is a hilariously weird thread. Please all have your fun here, then stop thinking about this, get off work, and go jump some bump humps for your own good.
funniest (and most accurate?) comment ever on youtube.
I guess I'm core because I made the Tomac/Ridemonkey post.
This is inherently exclusive (and some might consider it a negative) to have this kind of label - a label is on or off, you are or are not.
What defines a punk or hardcore kid? Do I have to have a mohawk? Do I have to circle pit? Or can I wear comfortable Brooks running shoes, and a Costco sweater to a Botch show? Apparently not cause I was told I look out of place, like a dad. Did I take offense to that? A little bit, but that's also punk, isn't it? Going against the grain of the cultural norm?
Throughout covid we saw such an insane boom of the riding population here in the Seattle area - the judgment of all of these new riders was off the charts. These folks are blowing up my spot and my sport. GET OUT, GO BACK TO REI AND DIE.
For all of my twenties and early 30s, I defined myself as a mountain biker. I ate, drink, breathe, immersed myself in it, but I also rode BMX, fixed gears, road bikes - still though, I was a "mountain biker". My wife has called my relationship with bikes "my mistress". Now, I don't really care and find the idea of "core" as annoying.
This whole thing can be taken in such a deep direction, we can be labeled or we cannot. Some philosophers like to question how we define our identities - are you your name, sex, relationship, occupation? Your ego's interpretation? Or are you a speck of dust in this infinite universe?
I guess this concept worked because I thought about it so much after listening, journaled about it, and had to do something with it.
this is the inherent problem about having this conversation.
its WAY too juicy (and easy) to moral high ground it.
this conversation was over before it even started lol
the gate to access gate keeping is... closed
let's just go back to ignoring it and pretending it doesn't exist because not everyone wants to talk about it
poor Jason gonna have to realize he wasted all that time talking about something that isn't ok to talk about, and that he should ride his bike instead. poor dude
Gonna start telling people im not sponsored becasue im a soul biker.
Fun convo as usual. Starting with skateboarding in the mid/late 80s), then snowboarding & mtb from 91+, I’ve always thought of myself as "core" On one hand, it's a way to identify, bond, and build community - who you want to be and be with. On the other hand, like insulting others, it can be a way to boost yourself in your own mind. If you’re core, you ID others as core and "in," while everyone else is "out" and is fodder for jokes. By excluding them, you secure your group.
I don’t know if I can ever give the idea up though. 36 years deep, mtb and snowboarding are central to my daily life, where I live, why I work, and the ride crew, with some of us 30+ years together. We endlessly judge bikes, gear, kit, rides, moves, and times (and some fall out because life involves other things too). We despise when shit companies, movies / ads / media, etc. portray mtb in ways that are stupid, wrong, supposed to be cool but are just pandering to masses - like how everything awesome gets marketed and crushed since the 60's onward.
Even within biking there’s "core" and "not-core," but it’s a false idea and an illusion. For example, XC riding, racing & gear are the antithesis of everything that rocks in mtb. As a look and race style, I mock its dopey kit & spandex fit, watermelon helmets, fingerless gloves, click-clack Pinocchio shoes, and dork glasses... but I know real XC riders destroy, have a blast, would nuke me any day all day, and have their own crews of XC breh and sistren. I even have an XC bike I like for the right terrain, though I sitll wear my trail gear as normal... can't go there b/c I'm too core in my mind
I guess "core" is just an idea we fool ourselves with to define us versus them, and what & who we think is cool. It's really just another label that divides us, even if I’ll probably never get it out of my head.
I do enjoy seeing those kind of topics come up, and I think that there can't be a definitive answer. Being "core" depends on everyone's point of view since there is no fixed point of view on that.
But I do think that there are some basic "core" values related to mountain biking, as there are core values in the hardcore music scene for example.
Core MTB values that help the community stay fun : respect the trail work, respect other riders and their skillset, be courteous in the trails and help build trails if you can.
Fun convo as usual. On one hand, :core" is just a way to identify, bond, and build community first and foremost. On the other hand, like insulting others, it can be a way to boost yourself in your own mind. If you’re core, you ID others as core to be "in," while everyone else becomes fodder for jokes; by excluding them, you secure your group.
I doubt I'll ever give the idea up though. 36 years deep, mtb is central to my daily life, where I live & bought my home, why I work, how I speak, and the ride crew, with some of us 30+ years together. We endlessly judge bikes, gear, kit, rides, moves, and times (and when some of us fall out because life involves other things too). At the same time I welcome and encourage any newcomers and have made new mtb friends this way, taking them from utter Kookdom to the Realms of Core
Even within biking there’s "core" and "not-core"... XC isn’t in my concept of core. As a look and race style, I mock its dopey tight kit, watermelon helmets, fingerless gloves, Pinocchio shoes, and dork glasses... but I know real XC riders destroy, have a blast, would nuke me any day all day, and have their own crews of XC breh and sistren. I even have an XC bike I like for the right terrain, though I’d never wear the look..Maybe start XC races with the top riders at the back, let them win that way, then we'll talk about XC core!
I guess "core" is just an idea we fool ourselves with to define us versus them, and what we think is cool. It's really just another label that divides us, even if I’ll probably never get it out of my head... what to do?
Being "core" has got to be similar to it's musical definition. Shops that work and create that DIY / Grassroots scene are core. Whether its events, group rides, classes, sponsoring local activities, trail work. For individuals it has got to be the same. Go to grassroots events, go fix your local trails, donate your old shit to a bicycle kitchen. If you aren't interacting with your local scene it doesn't really matter how long you have been riding, can you really call yourself core?
Old guys rule!
The core label is essentially schrodinger's cat.
I'm not sure anyone who's one PB or Vital forums can claim to be core. When I think of core, I think of dudes that ride and spend their free time riding and building in the woods without a second thought about what's happening on the internets. Two I can think of are:
Honza in Squamish - rides a clapped out Guerilla Gravity frame, the same TLD kit and builds the most ridiculous features you can imagine (the Gender Bender drop, the canyon gap, the log ride over the waterfall, etc)
Jasper Penton - no one has ever had more style on a bike. He appeared on social media for a minute and then disappeared into the ether (or maybe jail, depending on what rumours you believe...)
Cool topic. But isn't there a thing about once you give something a name, it's not cool anymore?
Core-est person I've seen in person? Myles Rockwell at Angel Fire. PUSH bro Darren. Hole-y gloves and old school TLD make it legit. This was before "core" was invented.
Anyways...See you guys for dawnpatrol tomorrow am before the sup'ers take all the parking spots by the dirt jumps. Bring your green flats! So core! :D
I went down a Jasper Penton wormhole one day while bored... I won't speculate on any legal issues, but there were quite a few folks in England claiming that he still rides regularly at their locals and just doesn't care about the social media and "professional" side of it anymore. This was deep in the comments section of some video or on reddit... I can't remember.
Oh this reminds me of another really good example. I suppose he's gotten more media attention and sponsors with his involvement in Rampage digging but... Sammy has been the core-est of core for a while now. Long before he got 'credit' for it: https://www.instagram.com/rocksdirtand.bones/
Also I don't know if it's been broached yet but it is nearly impossible for an e biker that is not either paid to be riding it or hauling at least 40 lbs of tools to go dig to be core. I might even argue if you are not on the world tour of your discipline getting paid to ride one is not enough to make you core.
E-bike saves me so much time dealing with blowdowns I have to bring extra fuel for the chainsaw because I get to so many more spots in a day.
I had to chew on that sentence structure for a couple minutes. seems like 'ebike = not core' is the jist
One thing I will say, as an anti e biker guy, is almost ALL the guys who put in the most work for trail maintenance now ride eebz. And they get a fcuk ton done. So yeah, not very core, not for me, but there are a ton of dudes using it as a tool to do the most core thing imaginable. Credit where its due.
The same is true here as well. Shop dudes on pro form eebs putting in work.
True Core isn't discussed, claimed, or performative. It just is. Anyone that claims to be core, isn't. Anyone talking about what is or is not core, isn't. Anyone that puts any effort into being core, isn't. Core just doing it for the love of it with zero concern for whatever is going on around you.
Unfortunately for us in here neither age, experience, knowledge, or riding ability, makes us core. I would surmise that there are very few true core people out there in the rest of the world, and they likely don't care about receiving the title if they are identified.
There is a reason I added the caveats I did about digging and maintaining.
It is ironic because embracing being cringe puts you on the highest plane
That basically disqualifies every professional / elite downhill racer above a national level (and most below). Racing isn't core? Honest question.
I almost feel like it has rounded the bend where so many kooks and intermediate riders ride flats that clips are core again
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