Finn and Jordan having their best seasons in years whilst Loic is out. What does it mean?
On the Downtime Podcast, Chris Hall, Neko Mulally, and Olly Morris were speculating that Specialized can give just that little extra support. They only have so much budget to allocate, and when Loic is on the box every week, it makes sense to try and keep him there.
Also, Jordan and Finn have both independently said that their mentality just sort of clicked this year. Finn finally got a strong training offseason this year after chronic pain in years previous. He then got the confidence to know he could do it. Jordan said he had some mental struggles previously, even starting to hate his career choice. He got too far into having a process and checking boxes for progress, and he said instead he really just needed to learn to love riding bikes fast again. He just started going out there to ride his bike and have fun, and that's what worked for him.
Eleonora Farina walks away from her spot on MS Racing to get back into the game on her own terms, taking some pressure off herself to try and find her form again. Good look Eleonora!
Is Danny Harts contract with Norco up at the end of the year?How long is Orbeas deal with the Seagraves? I have a feeling Tahnee will...
Is Danny Harts contract with Norco up at the end of the year?
How long is Orbeas deal with the Seagraves? I have a feeling Tahnee will retire if Myriam Nicole does as well.
I think tahnee has some years left. She’s like 5-6 years younger than myriam. She’s got time to cash some more checks traveling with her boyfriend. Lots of women are choosing to have kids a bit later these days if that’s a pursuit of hers.
I think tahnee has some years left. She’s like 5-6 years younger than myriam. She’s got time to cash some more checks traveling with her boyfriend...
I think tahnee has some years left. She’s like 5-6 years younger than myriam. She’s got time to cash some more checks traveling with her boyfriend. Lots of women are choosing to have kids a bit later these days if that’s a pursuit of hers.
If Tahnee retires early, I won't be surprised. She seems to be dealing with concussion symptoms and rider are taking that more seriously than we've seen in decades past.. She can still uncork a race winning run, but at what cost? Still so much that is unknown when it comes to TBIs...
I think tahnee has some years left. She’s like 5-6 years younger than myriam. She’s got time to cash some more checks traveling with her boyfriend...
I think tahnee has some years left. She’s like 5-6 years younger than myriam. She’s got time to cash some more checks traveling with her boyfriend. Lots of women are choosing to have kids a bit later these days if that’s a pursuit of hers.
r u a life coach because this is excellent completely unsolicited advice about when women can start having babies
Hahahaha dude I’m imagining a guy saying this out loud lol what on earth was the thought process that brought you to blurt that out?
Brutal for Finn. This was his strongest position going into the break, was it not? 2nd overall with 3 to go? (in a season with the biggest names struggling or out)
Speshy went from how cool is it they are still winning to... How cool is it they still have a rider left in the series...
I think tahnee has some years left. She’s like 5-6 years younger than myriam. She’s got time to cash some more checks traveling with her boyfriend...
I think tahnee has some years left. She’s like 5-6 years younger than myriam. She’s got time to cash some more checks traveling with her boyfriend. Lots of women are choosing to have kids a bit later these days if that’s a pursuit of hers.
r u a life coach because this is excellent completely unsolicited advice about when women can start having babiesHahahaha dude I’m imagining a guy saying this...
r u a life coach because this is excellent completely unsolicited advice about when women can start having babies
Hahahaha dude I’m imagining a guy saying this out loud lol what on earth was the thought process that brought you to blurt that out?
Wow! 🤩
If you want to have more than one child past the age of 35 and any past 40 there is generally a good amount of effort involved to hedge your bets. Over the age of 35 is technically a “geriatric pregnancy”. However it is a route that is increasingly common especially for women with high end careers like tahnee. There are also plenty of career women who have traditionally taken a break from their careers or effectively retired in their late 20s and early 30s to start a family. Rachel was around tahnee’s current age when she hung it up to have a child. (And at 35 won a race as the bad ass mom she is). But now there are quite a lot who extend their careers while still planning to start a family.
I also certainly didn’t imply my comment was advice.
If you want to have more than one child past the age of 35 and any past 40 there is generally a good amount of effort...
If you want to have more than one child past the age of 35 and any past 40 there is generally a good amount of effort involved to hedge your bets. Over the age of 35 is technically a “geriatric pregnancy”. However it is a route that is increasingly common especially for women with high end careers like tahnee. There are also plenty of career women who have traditionally taken a break from their careers or effectively retired in their late 20s and early 30s to start a family. Rachel was around tahnee’s current age when she hung it up to have a child. (And at 35 won a race as the bad ass mom she is). But now there are quite a lot who extend their careers while still planning to start a family.
I also certainly didn’t imply my comment was advice.
Got any stats on how weird it is to just start talking about this though? Unprompted discussion about prime baby-making conditions is not safe behavior in the big two-six, dude.
(I suspect you don’t view your helpful numbers as unprompted. This is likely the core issue.)
If you want to have more than one child past the age of 35 and any past 40 there is generally a good amount of effort...
If you want to have more than one child past the age of 35 and any past 40 there is generally a good amount of effort involved to hedge your bets. Over the age of 35 is technically a “geriatric pregnancy”. However it is a route that is increasingly common especially for women with high end careers like tahnee. There are also plenty of career women who have traditionally taken a break from their careers or effectively retired in their late 20s and early 30s to start a family. Rachel was around tahnee’s current age when she hung it up to have a child. (And at 35 won a race as the bad ass mom she is). But now there are quite a lot who extend their careers while still planning to start a family.
I also certainly didn’t imply my comment was advice.
Got any stats on how weird it is to just start talking about this though? Unprompted discussion about prime baby-making conditions is not safe behavior in...
Got any stats on how weird it is to just start talking about this though? Unprompted discussion about prime baby-making conditions is not safe behavior in the big two-six, dude.
(I suspect you don’t view your helpful numbers as unprompted. This is likely the core issue.)
Got any stats on how weird it is to just start talking about this though? Unprompted discussion about prime baby-making conditions is not safe behavior in...
Got any stats on how weird it is to just start talking about this though? Unprompted discussion about prime baby-making conditions is not safe behavior in the big two-six, dude.
(I suspect you don’t view your helpful numbers as unprompted. This is likely the core issue.)
Can talk about anything in the big two six without offending someone it seems.
If you want to have more than one child past the age of 35 and any past 40 there is generally a good amount of effort...
If you want to have more than one child past the age of 35 and any past 40 there is generally a good amount of effort involved to hedge your bets. Over the age of 35 is technically a “geriatric pregnancy”. However it is a route that is increasingly common especially for women with high end careers like tahnee. There are also plenty of career women who have traditionally taken a break from their careers or effectively retired in their late 20s and early 30s to start a family. Rachel was around tahnee’s current age when she hung it up to have a child. (And at 35 won a race as the bad ass mom she is). But now there are quite a lot who extend their careers while still planning to start a family.
I also certainly didn’t imply my comment was advice.
Got any stats on how weird it is to just start talking about this though? Unprompted discussion about prime baby-making conditions is not safe behavior in...
Got any stats on how weird it is to just start talking about this though? Unprompted discussion about prime baby-making conditions is not safe behavior in the big two-six, dude.
(I suspect you don’t view your helpful numbers as unprompted. This is likely the core issue.)
Why is it weird to be talking about an athlete's retirement in a rumors thread? Many female athletes retire to have children.
If you want to have more than one child past the age of 35 and any past 40 there is generally a good amount of effort...
If you want to have more than one child past the age of 35 and any past 40 there is generally a good amount of effort involved to hedge your bets. Over the age of 35 is technically a “geriatric pregnancy”. However it is a route that is increasingly common especially for women with high end careers like tahnee. There are also plenty of career women who have traditionally taken a break from their careers or effectively retired in their late 20s and early 30s to start a family. Rachel was around tahnee’s current age when she hung it up to have a child. (And at 35 won a race as the bad ass mom she is). But now there are quite a lot who extend their careers while still planning to start a family.
I also certainly didn’t imply my comment was advice.
Got any stats on how weird it is to just start talking about this though? Unprompted discussion about prime baby-making conditions is not safe behavior in...
Got any stats on how weird it is to just start talking about this though? Unprompted discussion about prime baby-making conditions is not safe behavior in the big two-six, dude.
(I suspect you don’t view your helpful numbers as unprompted. This is likely the core issue.)
If you want to have more than one child past the age of 35 and any past 40 there is generally a good amount of effort...
If you want to have more than one child past the age of 35 and any past 40 there is generally a good amount of effort involved to hedge your bets. Over the age of 35 is technically a “geriatric pregnancy”. However it is a route that is increasingly common especially for women with high end careers like tahnee. There are also plenty of career women who have traditionally taken a break from their careers or effectively retired in their late 20s and early 30s to start a family. Rachel was around tahnee’s current age when she hung it up to have a child. (And at 35 won a race as the bad ass mom she is). But now there are quite a lot who extend their careers while still planning to start a family.
I also certainly didn’t imply my comment was advice.
Got any stats on how weird it is to just start talking about this though? Unprompted discussion about prime baby-making conditions is not safe behavior in...
Got any stats on how weird it is to just start talking about this though? Unprompted discussion about prime baby-making conditions is not safe behavior in the big two-six, dude.
(I suspect you don’t view your helpful numbers as unprompted. This is likely the core issue.)
Why is it weird to be talking about an athlete's retirement in a rumors thread? Many female athletes retire to have children.
And many folks don't want children at all.
I think the real problem stems from discussing non-athletic, personal life things when the person being discussed is a dedicated, lifelong athlete and the discussion is happening in a space dedicated to the discussion of that athletic pursuit. What if your coworkers at every meeting brought up how fucking inept you are at home and that time you threw a tantrum because the sink nozzle was still set to spray rather than stream?
Has anyone talked about Finn retiring to become a father? He probably only has a few prime years of consistently viable seed.
No one has brought up Dak and how he should really be slowing down his riding to build a nursery. How's he going to train when he's going to have to be up all night changing diapers?
A LOT of fucking assumptions being made, right? That's all the woman's work, right? That's what they're SUPPOSED to do, right?
The quiet assumption was made by this thread (and by humanity at large) is that ultimately a woman's life will be lived with the pursuit of children as a goal and only purpose. Loic Bruni can choose to have kids. This thread and society gave Tahnee no choice in the matter and if she is to fulfill the goal the thread has set for her - without her input - then she will have to do that in a certain timeframe the thread has set. She's already clearly pushing back against society by participating in a dangerous action sport; the same pushback we all have have against society with our participation in the sport. What makes us think that she will fall neatly into the motherhood role society and this thread has deemed a foregone conclusion?
You wouldn't like to be told what to do today. Now imagine that someone is telling you what to do today to achieve a goal they've set for your future without your input. Now imagine that goal reinforces thousands of years of oppression and disenfranchisement ultimately devaluing your contributions to society and value as a human.
Got any stats on how weird it is to just start talking about this though? Unprompted discussion about prime baby-making conditions is not safe behavior in...
Got any stats on how weird it is to just start talking about this though? Unprompted discussion about prime baby-making conditions is not safe behavior in the big two-six, dude.
(I suspect you don’t view your helpful numbers as unprompted. This is likely the core issue.)
And many folks don't want children at all.I think the real problem stems from discussing non-athletic, personal life things when the person being discussed is a...
And many folks don't want children at all.
I think the real problem stems from discussing non-athletic, personal life things when the person being discussed is a dedicated, lifelong athlete and the discussion is happening in a space dedicated to the discussion of that athletic pursuit. What if your coworkers at every meeting brought up how fucking inept you are at home and that time you threw a tantrum because the sink nozzle was still set to spray rather than stream?
Has anyone talked about Finn retiring to become a father? He probably only has a few prime years of consistently viable seed.
No one has brought up Dak and how he should really be slowing down his riding to build a nursery. How's he going to train when he's going to have to be up all night changing diapers?
A LOT of fucking assumptions being made, right? That's all the woman's work, right? That's what they're SUPPOSED to do, right?
The quiet assumption was made by this thread (and by humanity at large) is that ultimately a woman's life will be lived with the pursuit of children as a goal and only purpose. Loic Bruni can choose to have kids. This thread and society gave Tahnee no choice in the matter and if she is to fulfill the goal the thread has set for her - without her input - then she will have to do that in a certain timeframe the thread has set. She's already clearly pushing back against society by participating in a dangerous action sport; the same pushback we all have have against society with our participation in the sport. What makes us think that she will fall neatly into the motherhood role society and this thread has deemed a foregone conclusion?
You wouldn't like to be told what to do today. Now imagine that someone is telling you what to do today to achieve a goal they've set for your future without your input. Now imagine that goal reinforces thousands of years of oppression and disenfranchisement ultimately devaluing your contributions to society and value as a human.
So that's why it's weird.
Finn is freshly 27. Which is why no one is talking about him retiring. Tahnee is early 30s. Which is when most mtb pros have traditional started to look at hanging it up. And again I personally think she had a lot more reasons to stick around racing a few years. Including the fact that if she wants kids she can family plan with her doctors to do it later than most women traditionally have been able to. The big 26 as you call it means women have a ton of options. And I’m personally grateful of this since my nephew is an ivf baby. And have several female friends who are planning on starting a family basically as late as their doctor recommends. Including freezing eggs.
What’s wierd is to go off the crazy train and try to enforce your values on a stranger on the internet with zero empathy when the stranger hasn’t said anything remotely disrespectful. My original post ends with “if kids is a choice for her” and as well paid tahnee is I doubt she has surrogate money. All I said is if she wants to choose having a pregnancy she doesn’t need to rush out the sport to do so. It’s you guys who are reinforcing stereotypes by making assumptions and typing out those stereotypes for the world to see. And it’s something I see all the time from usually male femenists who’d rather play social justice cop than actually try to have a conversation that’s going to change anyone’s mind. Not that my mind needs to be changed when it comes to respecting a women’s right to do whatever the fuck she wants with herself without my consent. I think you must be a bit off your rocker if anything I have said is coming off as some random punter telling tahnee what to with her career.
Finn is freshly 27. Which is why no one is talking about him retiring. Tahnee is early 30s. Which is when most mtb pros have traditional...
Finn is freshly 27. Which is why no one is talking about him retiring. Tahnee is early 30s. Which is when most mtb pros have traditional started to look at hanging it up. And again I personally think she had a lot more reasons to stick around racing a few years. Including the fact that if she wants kids she can family plan with her doctors to do it later than most women traditionally have been able to. The big 26 as you call it means women have a ton of options. And I’m personally grateful of this since my nephew is an ivf baby. And have several female friends who are planning on starting a family basically as late as their doctor recommends. Including freezing eggs.
What’s wierd is to go off the crazy train and try to enforce your values on a stranger on the internet with zero empathy when the stranger hasn’t said anything remotely disrespectful. My original post ends with “if kids is a choice for her” and as well paid tahnee is I doubt she has surrogate money. All I said is if she wants to choose having a pregnancy she doesn’t need to rush out the sport to do so. It’s you guys who are reinforcing stereotypes by making assumptions and typing out those stereotypes for the world to see. And it’s something I see all the time from usually male femenists who’d rather play social justice cop than actually try to have a conversation that’s going to change anyone’s mind. Not that my mind needs to be changed when it comes to respecting a women’s right to do whatever the fuck she wants with herself without my consent. I think you must be a bit off your rocker if anything I have said is coming off as some random punter telling tahnee what to with her career.
Dude you came in with the family planning stats completely out of nowhere. That’s wild. If there’s been a reference to an interview with Tahnee Seagrave about her future life plans somewhere that’s one thing, but I see nothing like that in this thread. You decided your info was germane to the convo. It is not. If, tonight at our 8th grader’s meet-the-teachers event, the gym coach mentions when it makes sense for said 8th grader to pivot from standing broad jump to being preggo, I’m going to make a note of it. “Yeah so we’re all about getting the kids moving around, some weight training and a bit more cardio than last year, and the kids are responsible for their own locks on their lockers and really if you look at the numbers it’s best if she has a baby sometime around 26 years old that’d be ideal.” This would be weird, right? And yet exactly as relevant as your thoughts on Tahnee Seagrave’s fertility window here.
For real dude it’s a weird thing to bring up out of the blue. And it was out of the blue here. If you have women in your life this stuff pops up everywhere. It really is that big and pervasive, that child-rearing is viewed as compulsory for women. So many more angles to talk about regarding this racer’s career—in this same thread!—and you’re just blurting out some unsolicited baby advice? Cmon! Hiding behind that “if” is weak too. You are not the champion for women you think you are. You guys all assure your wives that you’re not like the rest of them, don’t you…
shout out DontWorryImAPilot for the big picture post, that is spot-on.
Again, still laughing at the thought of overhearing this conversation, buncha bike racing fans talking about tire treads and suspension layouts and money guys blaming PE opportunists for leaving prominent race teams high and dry and holy shit the commentators don’t even know about those rocks and then a guy goes “she can still have babies if she races next year that’ll still be fine for having babies.”
Aahahahahaha and if you don’t hear the record scratch to awkward silence vibes in your head too, please consider some ayhuasca or whatever your podcast bros recommend and get with the program
Finn is freshly 27. Which is why no one is talking about him retiring. Tahnee is early 30s. Which is when most mtb pros have traditional...
Finn is freshly 27. Which is why no one is talking about him retiring. Tahnee is early 30s. Which is when most mtb pros have traditional started to look at hanging it up. And again I personally think she had a lot more reasons to stick around racing a few years. Including the fact that if she wants kids she can family plan with her doctors to do it later than most women traditionally have been able to. The big 26 as you call it means women have a ton of options. And I’m personally grateful of this since my nephew is an ivf baby. And have several female friends who are planning on starting a family basically as late as their doctor recommends. Including freezing eggs.
What’s wierd is to go off the crazy train and try to enforce your values on a stranger on the internet with zero empathy when the stranger hasn’t said anything remotely disrespectful. My original post ends with “if kids is a choice for her” and as well paid tahnee is I doubt she has surrogate money. All I said is if she wants to choose having a pregnancy she doesn’t need to rush out the sport to do so. It’s you guys who are reinforcing stereotypes by making assumptions and typing out those stereotypes for the world to see. And it’s something I see all the time from usually male femenists who’d rather play social justice cop than actually try to have a conversation that’s going to change anyone’s mind. Not that my mind needs to be changed when it comes to respecting a women’s right to do whatever the fuck she wants with herself without my consent. I think you must be a bit off your rocker if anything I have said is coming off as some random punter telling tahnee what to with her career.
Dude you came in with the family planning stats completely out of nowhere. That’s wild. If there’s been a reference to an interview with Tahnee Seagrave...
Dude you came in with the family planning stats completely out of nowhere. That’s wild. If there’s been a reference to an interview with Tahnee Seagrave about her future life plans somewhere that’s one thing, but I see nothing like that in this thread. You decided your info was germane to the convo. It is not. If, tonight at our 8th grader’s meet-the-teachers event, the gym coach mentions when it makes sense for said 8th grader to pivot from standing broad jump to being preggo, I’m going to make a note of it. “Yeah so we’re all about getting the kids moving around, some weight training and a bit more cardio than last year, and the kids are responsible for their own locks on their lockers and really if you look at the numbers it’s best if she has a baby sometime around 26 years old that’d be ideal.” This would be weird, right? And yet exactly as relevant as your thoughts on Tahnee Seagrave’s fertility window here.
For real dude it’s a weird thing to bring up out of the blue. And it was out of the blue here. If you have women in your life this stuff pops up everywhere. It really is that big and pervasive, that child-rearing is viewed as compulsory for women. So many more angles to talk about regarding this racer’s career—in this same thread!—and you’re just blurting out some unsolicited baby advice? Cmon! Hiding behind that “if” is weak too. You are not the champion for women you think you are. You guys all assure your wives that you’re not like the rest of them, don’t you…
shout out DontWorryImAPilot for the big picture post, that is spot-on.
Again, still laughing at the thought of overhearing this conversation, buncha bike racing fans talking about tire treads and suspension layouts and money guys blaming PE opportunists for leaving prominent race teams high and dry and holy shit the commentators don’t even know about those rocks and then a guy goes “she can still have babies if she races next year that’ll still be fine for having babies.”
Aahahahahaha and if you don’t hear the record scratch to awkward silence vibes in your head too, please consider some ayhuasca or whatever your podcast bros recommend and get with the program
Everyone stop before the UCI gets the idea to start trying to regulate non-PED-related body autonomy
Finn is freshly 27. Which is why no one is talking about him retiring. Tahnee is early 30s. Which is when most mtb pros have traditional...
Finn is freshly 27. Which is why no one is talking about him retiring. Tahnee is early 30s. Which is when most mtb pros have traditional started to look at hanging it up. And again I personally think she had a lot more reasons to stick around racing a few years. Including the fact that if she wants kids she can family plan with her doctors to do it later than most women traditionally have been able to. The big 26 as you call it means women have a ton of options. And I’m personally grateful of this since my nephew is an ivf baby. And have several female friends who are planning on starting a family basically as late as their doctor recommends. Including freezing eggs.
What’s wierd is to go off the crazy train and try to enforce your values on a stranger on the internet with zero empathy when the stranger hasn’t said anything remotely disrespectful. My original post ends with “if kids is a choice for her” and as well paid tahnee is I doubt she has surrogate money. All I said is if she wants to choose having a pregnancy she doesn’t need to rush out the sport to do so. It’s you guys who are reinforcing stereotypes by making assumptions and typing out those stereotypes for the world to see. And it’s something I see all the time from usually male femenists who’d rather play social justice cop than actually try to have a conversation that’s going to change anyone’s mind. Not that my mind needs to be changed when it comes to respecting a women’s right to do whatever the fuck she wants with herself without my consent. I think you must be a bit off your rocker if anything I have said is coming off as some random punter telling tahnee what to with her career.
Dude you came in with the family planning stats completely out of nowhere. That’s wild. If there’s been a reference to an interview with Tahnee Seagrave...
Dude you came in with the family planning stats completely out of nowhere. That’s wild. If there’s been a reference to an interview with Tahnee Seagrave about her future life plans somewhere that’s one thing, but I see nothing like that in this thread. You decided your info was germane to the convo. It is not. If, tonight at our 8th grader’s meet-the-teachers event, the gym coach mentions when it makes sense for said 8th grader to pivot from standing broad jump to being preggo, I’m going to make a note of it. “Yeah so we’re all about getting the kids moving around, some weight training and a bit more cardio than last year, and the kids are responsible for their own locks on their lockers and really if you look at the numbers it’s best if she has a baby sometime around 26 years old that’d be ideal.” This would be weird, right? And yet exactly as relevant as your thoughts on Tahnee Seagrave’s fertility window here.
For real dude it’s a weird thing to bring up out of the blue. And it was out of the blue here. If you have women in your life this stuff pops up everywhere. It really is that big and pervasive, that child-rearing is viewed as compulsory for women. So many more angles to talk about regarding this racer’s career—in this same thread!—and you’re just blurting out some unsolicited baby advice? Cmon! Hiding behind that “if” is weak too. You are not the champion for women you think you are. You guys all assure your wives that you’re not like the rest of them, don’t you…
shout out DontWorryImAPilot for the big picture post, that is spot-on.
Again, still laughing at the thought of overhearing this conversation, buncha bike racing fans talking about tire treads and suspension layouts and money guys blaming PE opportunists for leaving prominent race teams high and dry and holy shit the commentators don’t even know about those rocks and then a guy goes “she can still have babies if she races next year that’ll still be fine for having babies.”
Aahahahahaha and if you don’t hear the record scratch to awkward silence vibes in your head too, please consider some ayhuasca or whatever your podcast bros recommend and get with the program
Again it’s you who made and typed out those assumptions for the world to see. Again.
So now 3 x the two of you have been spewing misogynistic garbage to do what? Define who is allowed to make an offhand comment in good conscience and goes out of there way to make sure said comment isn’t misread. The “if that’s a pursuit of hers” was specifically made to try to avoid the likes of someone like you doing exactly what you are doing. But I guess next time I’ll write a large disclaimer that I am in no way telling a women what to do and am making a basic comment on the realities of being a female human being. Because some men would rather position themselves as the better femenists than actually treat women and all people for that matter with a modicum of dignity and empathy. I made my original comment cause I fully expect any sane women or man to not be offended by it. I expanded it on it shortly and respectfully. And you two in turn have typed out crazy hypotheticals and the exact stereotypes you are trying to say I’m the one perpetuating. I have made dumb sarcastic comments in the past that I regret (on internet and in real life) because my intentions were completely missed. But I still struggle to read anything I have said and make the connections you are choosing to make in this case.
Please tell me how this behavior is good for feminism or discourse in general? Cause if people can’t talk about how a female athlete might handle the realities of being a woman in good faith. Because unlike Danny, Troy, loic, ag or one day Finn. There is no tahnee racing while wifey sits at home literally making a baby. Finn can’t take a year off so tahnee can keep racing even if they wanted to. How is that not just making the world even harder for women? Is every single facet of womanhood simply too taboo in modern society? I don’t think so. But I do think people who act like you are acting are making it much harder. And again for what. To prove that you’re a real feminist and I’m not? What does that even mean?
So again rather than make a blanket assumption about me and type out the very gender roles you are supposedly against perpetuating. Maybe just consider context a little bit. And if you are going to say something perhaps consider a different tone. Because again I’m not anyone you need to convince of anything. But if i was, you’d be doing a really poor job at it.
No way!
Not a rumors and speculation but team dynamics.
Finn and Jordan having their best seasons in years whilst Loic is out. What does it mean?
On the Downtime Podcast, Chris Hall, Neko Mulally, and Olly Morris were speculating that Specialized can give just that little extra support. They only have so much budget to allocate, and when Loic is on the box every week, it makes sense to try and keep him there.
Also, Jordan and Finn have both independently said that their mentality just sort of clicked this year. Finn finally got a strong training offseason this year after chronic pain in years previous. He then got the confidence to know he could do it. Jordan said he had some mental struggles previously, even starting to hate his career choice. He got too far into having a process and checking boxes for progress, and he said instead he really just needed to learn to love riding bikes fast again. He just started going out there to ride his bike and have fun, and that's what worked for him.
Eleonora Farina walks away from her spot on MS Racing to get back into the game on her own terms, taking some pressure off herself to try and find her form again. Good look Eleonora!
Aaron Gwin to become a father. Neko looking to sign the boy post umbilical cord cutting.
Frameworks balance bike coming in hot.
Yeah they are just gonna do the baby footprints on a contract.
*Letter of Intent
Is Danny Harts contract with Norco up at the end of the year?
How long is Orbeas deal with the Seagraves? I have a feeling Tahnee will retire if Myriam Nicole does as well.
I think tahnee has some years left. She’s like 5-6 years younger than myriam. She’s got time to cash some more checks traveling with her boyfriend. Lots of women are choosing to have kids a bit later these days if that’s a pursuit of hers.
If Tahnee retires early, I won't be surprised. She seems to be dealing with concussion symptoms and rider are taking that more seriously than we've seen in decades past.. She can still uncork a race winning run, but at what cost? Still so much that is unknown when it comes to TBIs...
https://www.instagram.com/p/DcEps1tiX9R/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share…
Don't know how to link from Instagram but it's an update from Finn Iles about an injury.
r u a life coach because this is excellent completely unsolicited advice about when women can start having babies
Hahahaha dude I’m imagining a guy saying this out loud lol what on earth was the thought process that brought you to blurt that out?
Wow! 🤩
Brutal for Finn. This was his strongest position going into the break, was it not? 2nd overall with 3 to go? (in a season with the biggest names struggling or out)
Speshy went from how cool is it they are still winning to... How cool is it they still have a rider left in the series...
If you want to have more than one child past the age of 35 and any past 40 there is generally a good amount of effort involved to hedge your bets. Over the age of 35 is technically a “geriatric pregnancy”. However it is a route that is increasingly common especially for women with high end careers like tahnee. There are also plenty of career women who have traditionally taken a break from their careers or effectively retired in their late 20s and early 30s to start a family. Rachel was around tahnee’s current age when she hung it up to have a child. (And at 35 won a race as the bad ass mom she is). But now there are quite a lot who extend their careers while still planning to start a family.
I also certainly didn’t imply my comment was advice.
Got any stats on how weird it is to just start talking about this though? Unprompted discussion about prime baby-making conditions is not safe behavior in the big two-six, dude.
(I suspect you don’t view your helpful numbers as unprompted. This is likely the core issue.)
Typing in his speedos again?
Can talk about anything in the big two six without offending someone it seems.
Why is it weird to be talking about an athlete's retirement in a rumors thread? Many female athletes retire to have children.
Or some take a break and come back... It all depends on their mindset...
And many folks don't want children at all.
I think the real problem stems from discussing non-athletic, personal life things when the person being discussed is a dedicated, lifelong athlete and the discussion is happening in a space dedicated to the discussion of that athletic pursuit. What if your coworkers at every meeting brought up how fucking inept you are at home and that time you threw a tantrum because the sink nozzle was still set to spray rather than stream?
Has anyone talked about Finn retiring to become a father? He probably only has a few prime years of consistently viable seed.
No one has brought up Dak and how he should really be slowing down his riding to build a nursery. How's he going to train when he's going to have to be up all night changing diapers?
A LOT of fucking assumptions being made, right? That's all the woman's work, right? That's what they're SUPPOSED to do, right?
The quiet assumption was made by this thread (and by humanity at large) is that ultimately a woman's life will be lived with the pursuit of children as a goal and only purpose. Loic Bruni can choose to have kids. This thread and society gave Tahnee no choice in the matter and if she is to fulfill the goal the thread has set for her - without her input - then she will have to do that in a certain timeframe the thread has set. She's already clearly pushing back against society by participating in a dangerous action sport; the same pushback we all have have against society with our participation in the sport. What makes us think that she will fall neatly into the motherhood role society and this thread has deemed a foregone conclusion?
You wouldn't like to be told what to do today. Now imagine that someone is telling you what to do today to achieve a goal they've set for your future without your input. Now imagine that goal reinforces thousands of years of oppression and disenfranchisement ultimately devaluing your contributions to society and value as a human.
So that's why it's weird.
Finn is freshly 27. Which is why no one is talking about him retiring. Tahnee is early 30s. Which is when most mtb pros have traditional started to look at hanging it up. And again I personally think she had a lot more reasons to stick around racing a few years. Including the fact that if she wants kids she can family plan with her doctors to do it later than most women traditionally have been able to. The big 26 as you call it means women have a ton of options. And I’m personally grateful of this since my nephew is an ivf baby. And have several female friends who are planning on starting a family basically as late as their doctor recommends. Including freezing eggs.
What’s wierd is to go off the crazy train and try to enforce your values on a stranger on the internet with zero empathy when the stranger hasn’t said anything remotely disrespectful. My original post ends with “if kids is a choice for her” and as well paid tahnee is I doubt she has surrogate money. All I said is if she wants to choose having a pregnancy she doesn’t need to rush out the sport to do so. It’s you guys who are reinforcing stereotypes by making assumptions and typing out those stereotypes for the world to see. And it’s something I see all the time from usually male femenists who’d rather play social justice cop than actually try to have a conversation that’s going to change anyone’s mind. Not that my mind needs to be changed when it comes to respecting a women’s right to do whatever the fuck she wants with herself without my consent. I think you must be a bit off your rocker if anything I have said is coming off as some random punter telling tahnee what to with her career.
Dude you came in with the family planning stats completely out of nowhere. That’s wild. If there’s been a reference to an interview with Tahnee Seagrave about her future life plans somewhere that’s one thing, but I see nothing like that in this thread. You decided your info was germane to the convo. It is not.
If, tonight at our 8th grader’s meet-the-teachers event, the gym coach mentions when it makes sense for said 8th grader to pivot from standing broad jump to being preggo, I’m going to make a note of it. “Yeah so we’re all about getting the kids moving around, some weight training and a bit more cardio than last year, and the kids are responsible for their own locks on their lockers and really if you look at the numbers it’s best if she has a baby sometime around 26 years old that’d be ideal.” This would be weird, right? And yet exactly as relevant as your thoughts on Tahnee Seagrave’s fertility window here.
For real dude it’s a weird thing to bring up out of the blue. And it was out of the blue here. If you have women in your life this stuff pops up everywhere. It really is that big and pervasive, that child-rearing is viewed as compulsory for women. So many more angles to talk about regarding this racer’s career—in this same thread!—and you’re just blurting out some unsolicited baby advice? Cmon! Hiding behind that “if” is weak too. You are not the champion for women you think you are. You guys all assure your wives that you’re not like the rest of them, don’t you…
shout out DontWorryImAPilot for the big picture post, that is spot-on.
Again, still laughing at the thought of overhearing this conversation, buncha bike racing fans talking about tire treads and suspension layouts and money guys blaming PE opportunists for leaving prominent race teams high and dry and holy shit the commentators don’t even know about those rocks and then a guy goes “she can still have babies if she races next year that’ll still be fine for having babies.”
Aahahahahaha and if you don’t hear the record scratch to awkward silence vibes in your head too, please consider some ayhuasca or whatever your podcast bros recommend and get with the program
Everyone stop before the UCI gets the idea to start trying to regulate non-PED-related body autonomy
Again it’s you who made and typed out those assumptions for the world to see. Again.
So now 3 x the two of you have been spewing misogynistic garbage to do what? Define who is allowed to make an offhand comment in good conscience and goes out of there way to make sure said comment isn’t misread. The “if that’s a pursuit of hers” was specifically made to try to avoid the likes of someone like you doing exactly what you are doing. But I guess next time I’ll write a large disclaimer that I am in no way telling a women what to do and am making a basic comment on the realities of being a female human being. Because some men would rather position themselves as the better femenists than actually treat women and all people for that matter with a modicum of dignity and empathy. I made my original comment cause I fully expect any sane women or man to not be offended by it. I expanded it on it shortly and respectfully. And you two in turn have typed out crazy hypotheticals and the exact stereotypes you are trying to say I’m the one perpetuating. I have made dumb sarcastic comments in the past that I regret (on internet and in real life) because my intentions were completely missed. But I still struggle to read anything I have said and make the connections you are choosing to make in this case.
Please tell me how this behavior is good for feminism or discourse in general? Cause if people can’t talk about how a female athlete might handle the realities of being a woman in good faith. Because unlike Danny, Troy, loic, ag or one day Finn. There is no tahnee racing while wifey sits at home literally making a baby. Finn can’t take a year off so tahnee can keep racing even if they wanted to. How is that not just making the world even harder for women? Is every single facet of womanhood simply too taboo in modern society? I don’t think so. But I do think people who act like you are acting are making it much harder. And again for what. To prove that you’re a real feminist and I’m not? What does that even mean?
So again rather than make a blanket assumption about me and type out the very gender roles you are supposedly against perpetuating. Maybe just consider context a little bit. And if you are going to say something perhaps consider a different tone. Because again I’m not anyone you need to convince of anything. But if i was, you’d be doing a really poor job at it.
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