I am almost certain Specialized are trying to get rid of as much 3.1 motors and battery stock as possible before 2027 which explains the Levo...
I am almost certain Specialized are trying to get rid of as much 3.1 motors and battery stock as possible before 2027 which explains the Levo R, Evo and X releases. Ever since Yamaha (Giant's ebike partner) purchased Brose I have assumed Specialized would try and move away from Brose as soon as possible. Who they decide to work with next I don't know but I think we will see an eCVT powered Levo next year. I don't think Specialized want to get caught behind the curve again like they did with the Levo 4 after it got delayed.
Meybe im mistaken but i thought the latest spesh motor was a mahle.
In any case, spesh are rumoured to be working with Gabao and will have a spesh branded Gabao probably next year so your theory of getting rid of current stock holds true. Gabao ecvt with software/feel developed by spesh eeb designers could be what it needs.
This might be too much $ to sink into my 2019 decoy but the bike does seem to be bombproof and now could be futere proof.
I am almost certain Specialized are trying to get rid of as much 3.1 motors and battery stock as possible before 2027 which explains the Levo...
I am almost certain Specialized are trying to get rid of as much 3.1 motors and battery stock as possible before 2027 which explains the Levo R, Evo and X releases. Ever since Yamaha (Giant's ebike partner) purchased Brose I have assumed Specialized would try and move away from Brose as soon as possible. Who they decide to work with next I don't know but I think we will see an eCVT powered Levo next year. I don't think Specialized want to get caught behind the curve again like they did with the Levo 4 after it got delayed.
Meybe im mistaken but i thought the latest spesh motor was a mahle. In any case, spesh are rumoured to be working with Gabao and will have...
Meybe im mistaken but i thought the latest spesh motor was a mahle.
In any case, spesh are rumoured to be working with Gabao and will have a spesh branded Gabao probably next year so your theory of getting rid of current stock holds true. Gabao ecvt with software/feel developed by spesh eeb designers could be what it needs.
This might be too much $ to sink into my 2019 decoy but the bike does seem to be bombproof and now could be futere proof.
No, the 3.1 is still a Brose manufactured unit. It sounds like (rumour) Specialized did initially approach Mahle for them Levo 4 but it didn't work out and they went back to Brose.
I am almost certain Specialized are trying to get rid of as much 3.1 motors and battery stock as possible before 2027 which explains the Levo...
I am almost certain Specialized are trying to get rid of as much 3.1 motors and battery stock as possible before 2027 which explains the Levo R, Evo and X releases. Ever since Yamaha (Giant's ebike partner) purchased Brose I have assumed Specialized would try and move away from Brose as soon as possible. Who they decide to work with next I don't know but I think we will see an eCVT powered Levo next year. I don't think Specialized want to get caught behind the curve again like they did with the Levo 4 after it got delayed.
Meybe im mistaken but i thought the latest spesh motor was a mahle. In any case, spesh are rumoured to be working with Gabao and will have...
Meybe im mistaken but i thought the latest spesh motor was a mahle.
In any case, spesh are rumoured to be working with Gabao and will have a spesh branded Gabao probably next year so your theory of getting rid of current stock holds true. Gabao ecvt with software/feel developed by spesh eeb designers could be what it needs.
This might be too much $ to sink into my 2019 decoy but the bike does seem to be bombproof and now could be futere proof.
No, the 3.1 is still a Brose manufactured unit. It sounds like (rumour) Specialized did initially approach Mahle for them Levo 4 but it didn't work...
No, the 3.1 is still a Brose manufactured unit. It sounds like (rumour) Specialized did initially approach Mahle for them Levo 4 but it didn't work out and they went back to Brose.
Thanks, its nice that brose changed from that belt system.
Supposedly the gabao system is quite affordable. I wonder if spesh will actually make adfordable bikes. Thats probably their biggest barrier currently. Im not a huge avinox fanboi, i think i'd prefer bosch, but its tempting when their bikes are half the price of a spesh
Meybe im mistaken but i thought the latest spesh motor was a mahle. In any case, spesh are rumoured to be working with Gabao and will have...
Meybe im mistaken but i thought the latest spesh motor was a mahle.
In any case, spesh are rumoured to be working with Gabao and will have a spesh branded Gabao probably next year so your theory of getting rid of current stock holds true. Gabao ecvt with software/feel developed by spesh eeb designers could be what it needs.
This might be too much $ to sink into my 2019 decoy but the bike does seem to be bombproof and now could be futere proof.
No, the 3.1 is still a Brose manufactured unit. It sounds like (rumour) Specialized did initially approach Mahle for them Levo 4 but it didn't work...
No, the 3.1 is still a Brose manufactured unit. It sounds like (rumour) Specialized did initially approach Mahle for them Levo 4 but it didn't work out and they went back to Brose.
Thanks, its nice that brose changed from that belt system. Supposedly the gabao system is quite affordable. I wonder if spesh will actually make adfordable bikes...
Thanks, its nice that brose changed from that belt system.
Supposedly the gabao system is quite affordable. I wonder if spesh will actually make adfordable bikes. Thats probably their biggest barrier currently. Im not a huge avinox fanboi, i think i'd prefer bosch, but its tempting when their bikes are half the price of a spesh
I don’t think Specialized has much margin to make their bikes more affordable compared to smaller companies that have less overhead.
Guys, not thoroughly read all of the information on the engine+gearbox systems of gobao and avinox. Will these also have an option to change manually the gears (through a hand shifter and not a foot one lol) or is it only fully automatic ?
Guys, not thoroughly read all of the information on the engine+gearbox systems of gobao and avinox. Will these also have an option to change manually the...
Guys, not thoroughly read all of the information on the engine+gearbox systems of gobao and avinox. Will these also have an option to change manually the gears (through a hand shifter and not a foot one lol) or is it only fully automatic ?
Yes they will have manual shift points. I'd assume similar to how Subaru CVTs have paddle shifters for manual mode where you can lock it into certain ratios.
I rode this weekend with a bike media guy. When I mentioned the Specialized / Gobao rumor that I'd seen here, he said he's already ridden the next Levo with a whole new system but that it wasn't a gearbox. All he'd say was that the hardware was all new but debadged so he wasn't sure who made the motor, and that it felt like Avinox level of power at much lighter weight than the Levo 4.
I rode this weekend with a bike media guy. When I mentioned the Specialized / Gobao rumor that I'd seen here, he said he's already ridden...
I rode this weekend with a bike media guy. When I mentioned the Specialized / Gobao rumor that I'd seen here, he said he's already ridden the next Levo with a whole new system but that it wasn't a gearbox. All he'd say was that the hardware was all new but debadged so he wasn't sure who made the motor, and that it felt like Avinox level of power at much lighter weight than the Levo 4.
Sounds like specialized is f’d. Rumor mills are consistent- SBC is sitting on unreleased stock. Newest stumpy, DH bike, and possibly soon to be Levo.
I rode this weekend with a bike media guy. When I mentioned the Specialized / Gobao rumor that I'd seen here, he said he's already ridden...
I rode this weekend with a bike media guy. When I mentioned the Specialized / Gobao rumor that I'd seen here, he said he's already ridden the next Levo with a whole new system but that it wasn't a gearbox. All he'd say was that the hardware was all new but debadged so he wasn't sure who made the motor, and that it felt like Avinox level of power at much lighter weight than the Levo 4.
Did they mention if it still looked like a pregnant whale and weighed 1000lbs?
I rode this weekend with a bike media guy. When I mentioned the Specialized / Gobao rumor that I'd seen here, he said he's already ridden...
I rode this weekend with a bike media guy. When I mentioned the Specialized / Gobao rumor that I'd seen here, he said he's already ridden the next Levo with a whole new system but that it wasn't a gearbox. All he'd say was that the hardware was all new but debadged so he wasn't sure who made the motor, and that it felt like Avinox level of power at much lighter weight than the Levo 4.
Did they mention if it still looked like a pregnant whale and weighed 1000lbs?
No mention of what trimester it was in. He did say it was lighter but the weight number sounded unrealistic/impossible so not repeating it because I frankly do not believe it and didn't have build components list for context.
No mention of what trimester it was in. He did say it was lighter but the weight number sounded unrealistic/impossible so not repeating it because I...
No mention of what trimester it was in. He did say it was lighter but the weight number sounded unrealistic/impossible so not repeating it because I frankly do not believe it and didn't have build components list for context.
Excluding the latest Levo, Spesh has always made insanely light bikes.
Levo SL's commonly weigh 40#s compared to the size S Trek Exe I just bought sitting at a porky 46#s for example. I know it's in the build (and battery size in this case) but they nearly always manage to trim their bikes way down.
I rode this weekend with a bike media guy. When I mentioned the Specialized / Gobao rumor that I'd seen here, he said he's already ridden...
I rode this weekend with a bike media guy. When I mentioned the Specialized / Gobao rumor that I'd seen here, he said he's already ridden the next Levo with a whole new system but that it wasn't a gearbox. All he'd say was that the hardware was all new but debadged so he wasn't sure who made the motor, and that it felt like Avinox level of power at much lighter weight than the Levo 4.
Gobao do also have some normal middrive offerings also. It's also possible that manufactures don't go all in on eCVTs and instead have a mix of standard drivetrain and eCVT offerings in their portfolios.
I rode this weekend with a bike media guy. When I mentioned the Specialized / Gobao rumor that I'd seen here, he said he's already ridden...
I rode this weekend with a bike media guy. When I mentioned the Specialized / Gobao rumor that I'd seen here, he said he's already ridden the next Levo with a whole new system but that it wasn't a gearbox. All he'd say was that the hardware was all new but debadged so he wasn't sure who made the motor, and that it felt like Avinox level of power at much lighter weight than the Levo 4.
Gobao do also have some normal middrive offerings also. It's also possible that manufactures don't go all in on eCVTs and instead have a mix of...
Gobao do also have some normal middrive offerings also. It's also possible that manufactures don't go all in on eCVTs and instead have a mix of standard drivetrain and eCVT offerings in their portfolios.
Yeah that Aventon eMTB that was released this year has a Gobao motor.
No, that’s if you are coming from a Shimano motor.
Meybe im mistaken but i thought the latest spesh motor was a mahle.
In any case, spesh are rumoured to be working with Gabao and will have a spesh branded Gabao probably next year so your theory of getting rid of current stock holds true. Gabao ecvt with software/feel developed by spesh eeb designers could be what it needs.
This might be too much $ to sink into my 2019 decoy but the bike does seem to be bombproof and now could be futere proof.
would it fit? : )
Just saw this and found it interesting.. I've always wondered if motor swaps could become a thing with Emtbs...
No, the 3.1 is still a Brose manufactured unit. It sounds like (rumour) Specialized did initially approach Mahle for them Levo 4 but it didn't work out and they went back to Brose.
Thanks, its nice that brose changed from that belt system.
Supposedly the gabao system is quite affordable. I wonder if spesh will actually make adfordable bikes. Thats probably their biggest barrier currently. Im not a huge avinox fanboi, i think i'd prefer bosch, but its tempting when their bikes are half the price of a spesh
I don’t think Specialized has much margin to make their bikes more affordable compared to smaller companies that have less overhead.
Guys, not thoroughly read all of the information on the engine+gearbox systems of gobao and avinox. Will these also have an option to change manually the gears (through a hand shifter and not a foot one lol) or is it only fully automatic ?
Yes they will have manual shift points. I'd assume similar to how Subaru CVTs have paddle shifters for manual mode where you can lock it into certain ratios.
I rode this weekend with a bike media guy. When I mentioned the Specialized / Gobao rumor that I'd seen here, he said he's already ridden the next Levo with a whole new system but that it wasn't a gearbox. All he'd say was that the hardware was all new but debadged so he wasn't sure who made the motor, and that it felt like Avinox level of power at much lighter weight than the Levo 4.
Sounds like specialized is f’d. Rumor mills are consistent- SBC is sitting on unreleased stock. Newest stumpy, DH bike, and possibly soon to be Levo.
Did they mention if it still looked like a pregnant whale and weighed 1000lbs?
No mention of what trimester it was in. He did say it was lighter but the weight number sounded unrealistic/impossible so not repeating it because I frankly do not believe it and didn't have build components list for context.
Excluding the latest Levo, Spesh has always made insanely light bikes.
Levo SL's commonly weigh 40#s compared to the size S Trek Exe I just bought sitting at a porky 46#s for example. I know it's in the build (and battery size in this case) but they nearly always manage to trim their bikes way down.
Gobao do also have some normal middrive offerings also. It's also possible that manufactures don't go all in on eCVTs and instead have a mix of standard drivetrain and eCVT offerings in their portfolios.
Yeah that Aventon eMTB that was released this year has a Gobao motor.
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