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was to be expected. looking forward how yeti is trying to improve on the current sb-line. loved my sb150 and been even more impressed with the sb160.
I think it might be the use of AI. A lot of people hate it, me included.
AI is gay
Yes, MS paint reaction memes only please, have some self respect, people!
CRABFINITY
That's nice. Servicing the infinity link on my wife's bike is a pita.
I hope Forbidden doesn't make the pedal powered bikes also crabs as it sounds like some testing was done of the e bikes without motors. My Druid V2 is way sexier than the crab bikes so I hope V3 doesn't go that direction...
Your Druid v2 is an inverted crab
I love it and hate it. Always good for a laugh. Love it when people act like it’s going to destroy the planet, as though the capitalist system it grew out of was doing great things…
I miss when people used to draw silly little drawings of things. They were fun and whimsical and now its like "oh, a computer made that with no effort" and it takes the fun out of the photos.
Is the pinnacle of suspension evoltuion the crab? Will all bikes be crabs some day?
As a fan of both electronic and jazz music I really don’t care how the art was made. If I like it, I like it.
Soon AI will design the bikes, the AI will scrape the web for what is and isn't important in bike design... it will find this thread. We will then be delivered the true final boss... crab industrial design, with crab link and headset crab claw routing. It will simultaneously be the end of days, and the beginning of days.
Related to crabs... does anyone have any inside scoop on SC releases? I'm interested in a new trail bike, I'm fighting the urge to go with a hightower 4, but the SC sizing and geo work really well for me. Despite it being very bland and the industry norm, I would be interested in a crab link tallboy... but also would be interested in the new tallboy even if it's a different crustacean or even fish based. The hightower 4 is more travel then I need for my trail bike... but the current tallboy is a bit less.
I think Forbidden will come up with a short travel crab bike eventually. Rocky mountain element before the flex stay would be also a good and lightweight option.
Not if I unplug it first.
I think I am too weak mentally to pedal a high pivot bike on 6-7k elevation gain days. I can admit that the idler doesn't provide more then 1-2% drag... and with my roller coaster fitness levels, it won't make/break my ability to finish a ride with 5k+ However, mentally, I'm going to be over thinking it and my obsession with a properly lubricated chain with no noise will really mess with me.
I did get a few rides on a druid however... and I will admit it was the best 130mm bike I have ever ridden. Hrmmmm... The previous gen rocky is a great suggestion, my lbs carries them and I always forget about them as an option.
I'd be willing to put money down that Norco comes out with something between the new Revolver and current Sight that:
1. is closer in spirit to the Revolver than the Sight
2. abandons the 'Optic' moniker.
If they do, it'll be a great option. I appreciate the comment on mental ability and pedalling high pivot bikes. Personally, I think we're going to generally see a push towards lighter and more pedally 130/140mm bikes rather than the previous push of the last 5 years, which was to make them closer to enduro bikes.
You just described the Norco Fluid, which exists. 130/140mm crab link. Carbon and aluminum options. Was bike of the year for one of the big guys (green and red sites), maybe both when it came out 2 seasons ago.
ai derailment aside, source?
there are rumors about a smaller non HP bikes from Forbidden. I should have been more specific...
Perhaps using the same FP Flex Pivot design, but longer travel to replace optic. That would be great; the Revolver is super fun.
It's supposedly called the cangrejo.
It supposedly might have anywhere between 119 and 121 mm of rear travel.
No, not really. Other than the carbon fluid.... experiment? (it's discontinued after 2 seasons), the Fluid is clearly positioned to be an affordable trail bike in Norco's lineup. Yes, you can see some top specs for great prices, but the savings have to come from somewhere and that's clearly the frames: through a combination of manufacturing techniques and materials, they're heavier and less sophisticated than their premium offerings. Contrast this with the new Revolver which is positioned to be a premium product.
Characteristic wise, they're quite a bit closer to the Sight than the Revolver. Ride one and it's pretty obvious that despite the travel numbers, it's tuned to provide a comparatively better (and forgiving) descending experience than climbing experience. I found it felt less efficient than the Gen II Optic. Great bike but certainly isn't getting away from the exact trend I was talking about the industry getting away from, i.e. making 130/140mm bikes pedal and descend like enduro bikes.
There isn’t a downside, you would get more dropper insertion with the new design. They also made the LR more linear progressive instead of the ramp at the last 1/3rd. Owen told me they did that because shocks didn’t have HBO when they started designing the V2. With the HBO they didn’t need that ramp anymore and were limited on how much they could make the LR more linear, with how deep in the design cycle they were. They also have a less rearward axle path with V2 ~22mm and the new E being ~18mm.
Maybe more of a topic for the Bikenomics Mega Thread, but I'm purely speculating the carbon Fluid may have just been put on pause in hopes to move some Optics that I imagine they're sitting on. Which then, I now understand your point. I will agree in that the Revolver is a pretty kickass bike, and more "fun" XC bikes need to make their way into more lineups.
I’m seeing a great April 1st product for cascade link. A pretty cnc suspension link for your crab link bike that looks like a crab claw a-la the vampire bat wing
when can we get some more teaser info on anything Forbidden to come?
Will we see a V2 Supernought soon? and the V3 Dreadnought?