On the Bikes & Big Ideas podcast with the founder of Outlier MTB (Cam Belisle), around 25:40 the host talks about his favorite clip pedal being an HT, and it sounds like Cam responds with a “for now…”
New levers from Hope, or something custom? Pic stolen from the other site...
New levers from Hope, or something custom? Pic stolen from the other site...
Yep
Adam Bryton has the same new-style lever, including an additional bolt at the base of the lever. Hope seems to have decided to add a separate port for brake pumping.
YepAdam Bryton has the same new-style lever, including an additional bolt at the base of the lever. Hope seems to have decided to add a separate...
Yep
Adam Bryton has the same new-style lever, including an additional bolt at the base of the lever. Hope seems to have decided to add a separate port for brake pumping.
The blade is an existing blade that hope hand out to their sponsored athletes with smaller hands. It's a bit less long, and sits closer to the bar compared to the stock lever. The bleed port is also in a convenient place so that it'll sit at the highest point in the system with the levers at a normal operational angle, meaning you won't have to 'tip' the lever up to bleed it anymore. Hopefully it's more of a revision or update to the tech 4 lever as it's definitely one of the best brakes on the market and nothing needs changing besides quality of life stuff.
Did they ever click? I haven't had a GXP or DUB crank click in the last almost 20 years of use. Same for Shimano before that. And making it one piece (though it was marketed as such when Transmission came out) has to be a b*tch ti make - hollow forged axle, machined crank, multi axis turned axle to make the diameters and the DS interface , drilled pedal thread, etc. It really makes very little sense and gives little gain to do it one piece...
Has anyone seen these pedals on Wyn's bike from Fort Bill before? The cleat binding looks very Shimano like, but I can't see any of their current pedals has a platform that shape? Seems like its extended at the back of the binding, for more support when dropping your heels, but then with less support up front? Pins on the back can be seen in the second photo. Whatever they are, they look WEIRD!
Does anybody have scoops on the southern gravity DH bike?. Some old post sounded wishy washy on if they would sell to public. But their website has some “enter password” to access deal.
It looks sick tho.
Can’t post a picture cause I’m retarded and on my phone but look up southern gravity on Instagram.
Does anybody have scoops on the southern gravity DH bike?. Some old post sounded wishy washy on if they would sell to public. But their website...
Does anybody have scoops on the southern gravity DH bike?. Some old post sounded wishy washy on if they would sell to public. But their website has some “enter password” to access deal.
It looks sick tho.
Can’t post a picture cause I’m retarded and on my phone but look up southern gravity on Instagram.
Does anybody have scoops on the southern gravity DH bike?. Some old post sounded wishy washy on if they would sell to public. But their website...
Does anybody have scoops on the southern gravity DH bike?. Some old post sounded wishy washy on if they would sell to public. But their website has some “enter password” to access deal.
It looks sick tho.
Can’t post a picture cause I’m retarded and on my phone but look up southern gravity on Instagram.
Thank you for my evening chuckles my good man!! I thought I was the only one that couldn’t figure out posting pics. I can get some of them but some you have to be Einstein to post!!
Does anybody have scoops on the southern gravity DH bike?. Some old post sounded wishy washy on if they would sell to public. But their website...
Does anybody have scoops on the southern gravity DH bike?. Some old post sounded wishy washy on if they would sell to public. But their website has some “enter password” to access deal.
It looks sick tho.
Can’t post a picture cause I’m retarded and on my phone but look up southern gravity on Instagram.
Thank you for my evening chuckles my good man!! I thought I was the only one that couldn’t figure out posting pics. I can get some...
Thank you for my evening chuckles my good man!! I thought I was the only one that couldn’t figure out posting pics. I can get some of them but some you have to be Einstein to post!!
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e*thirteen developed the Helix Race GR Cranks to meet the demands of downhill, big bike park laps, enduro, and freeride riders, engineered and tested with their World Cup and Enduro athletes for durability and performance in challenging conditions.
Working alongside our World Cup DH and Enduro athletes, e*thirteen engineered the new Helix Race GR Cranks. These Forged AL-6066-T6, CNC-sculpted aluminum cranks are designed for the rigors of downhill, big bike park laps, enduro, and freeride. The Helix Race GR shares the spindle design and low-profile shape with our top-end carbon and alloy cranks, with 83mm and 73mm spindle options. Helix Race GR cranks easily exceed ASTM 5 standards — a work of art made to take a beating.
Exceeds ASTM 5 standards for Downhill, Bike Park, Enduro and Freeride applications
Forged, CNC Machined, AL-6066-T6 arms and 30mm AL 7050-T7 spindle
73mm and 83mm spindle options for enduro and DH bikes
Available in popular gravity crank arm lengths, 160mm and 165mm
Molded crank boots, protective polymer decals, APS adjuster, and self-extractor system included
Product Specs:
Chainline:
83mm spindle cranks: Helix GR Chainrings for 56.5mm chainline
73mm spindle cranks: Helix Chainrings for 55mm chainline
Forged and CNC Machined for optimized strength-to-weight ratio and classic styling
Molded crank boots
Adaptive Preload System (APS)
Proven P3 Connect polygon spindle interface
Length: 160mm, 165mm
Material: Forged, CNC Machined AL 6066-T6 arms, 30mm AL 7075-T73 spindle
Spindle:
Width: 73mm or 83mm
Diameter: 30mm
Interface: P3 Connect
Weight:
83mm x 160mm: 590g / 664g w 34t Ring
83mm x 165mm: 607g / 681g w 34T ring
73mm x 160mm: 584g / 638g w 34T Helix Race Chainring
73mm x 165mm: 599g / 653g w 34T Helix Race Chainring
$239.95 USD
Helix Race GR Direct Mount Chainrings
Helix Race GR chainrings are direct mount chainrings engineered to withstand the punishment of downhill, bike park, and freeride disciplines. They’re forged from AL 7075-T6 then machined for beauty and to handle the rigor of downhill riding. Our Quick Connect Direct Mount spline provides proven security and creak-free mounting. Featuring e*thirteen’s M4 narrow-wide tooth profile, GR Rings deliver flawless chain retention, reduced noise and system wear, and seamless compatibility with both Shimano and SRAM drivetrains (including T-type). Available in 34T and 36T sizes and Black or Sterling Silver color options.
Product Specs:
Chain Retention: Updated M4 narrow-wide tooth profile improved retention, reduced chain noise, and decreased system wear
Chainline: 56.5mm with Helix Race GR 83mm spindle cranks
Color: Black, Sterling Silver
Compatibility: Helix Race GR 83mm Spindle cranks (73mm Cranks use Helix Race Chainrings)
Their pre wave alloy? i've owned a set of those 'big bearing' pedals for years and i've probably put my foot on it once.Regardless the answer...
Their pre wave alloy? i've owned a set of those 'big bearing' pedals for years and i've probably put my foot on it once.
Regardless the answer to flat pedals is always the same.... go and buy clip pedals.
It's love it or hate it. I have three original ones in rotation, lent them out to friends, I've been running Outlier-esque prototypes for over a year (modular proto with a huge bulge) and they have been in rotation with friends as well and the bulge is 100 % a deal breaker or a non issue. There is no in between.
New e*thirteen Helix Race Alloy GR Cranks and ChainringHelix Race Alloy GR Crankse*thirteen developed the Helix Race GR Cranks to meet the demands of...
e*thirteen developed the Helix Race GR Cranks to meet the demands of downhill, big bike park laps, enduro, and freeride riders, engineered and tested with their World Cup and Enduro athletes for durability and performance in challenging conditions.
Working alongside our World Cup DH and Enduro athletes, e*thirteen engineered the new Helix Race GR Cranks. These Forged AL-6066-T6, CNC-sculpted aluminum cranks are designed for the rigors of downhill, big bike park laps, enduro, and freeride. The Helix Race GR shares the spindle design and low-profile shape with our top-end carbon and alloy cranks, with 83mm and 73mm spindle options. Helix Race GR cranks easily exceed ASTM 5 standards — a work of art made to take a beating.
Exceeds ASTM 5 standards for Downhill, Bike Park, Enduro and Freeride applications
Forged, CNC Machined, AL-6066-T6 arms and 30mm AL 7050-T7 spindle
73mm and 83mm spindle options for enduro and DH bikes
Available in popular gravity crank arm lengths, 160mm and 165mm
Molded crank boots, protective polymer decals, APS adjuster, and self-extractor system included
Product Specs:
Chainline:
83mm spindle cranks: Helix GR Chainrings for 56.5mm chainline
73mm spindle cranks: Helix Chainrings for 55mm chainline
Forged and CNC Machined for optimized strength-to-weight ratio and classic styling
Molded crank boots
Adaptive Preload System (APS)
Proven P3 Connect polygon spindle interface
Length: 160mm, 165mm
Material: Forged, CNC Machined AL 6066-T6 arms, 30mm AL 7075-T73 spindle
Spindle:
Width: 73mm or 83mm
Diameter: 30mm
Interface: P3 Connect
Weight:
83mm x 160mm: 590g / 664g w 34t Ring
83mm x 165mm: 607g / 681g w 34T ring
73mm x 160mm: 584g / 638g w 34T Helix Race Chainring
73mm x 165mm: 599g / 653g w 34T Helix Race Chainring
$239.95 USD
Helix Race GR Direct Mount Chainrings
Helix Race GR chainrings are direct mount chainrings engineered to withstand the punishment of downhill, bike park, and freeride disciplines. They’re forged from AL 7075-T6 then machined for beauty and to handle the rigor of downhill riding. Our Quick Connect Direct Mount spline provides proven security and creak-free mounting. Featuring e*thirteen’s M4 narrow-wide tooth profile, GR Rings deliver flawless chain retention, reduced noise and system wear, and seamless compatibility with both Shimano and SRAM drivetrains (including T-type). Available in 34T and 36T sizes and Black or Sterling Silver color options.
Product Specs:
Chain Retention: Updated M4 narrow-wide tooth profile improved retention, reduced chain noise, and decreased system wear
Chainline: 56.5mm with Helix Race GR 83mm spindle cranks
Color: Black, Sterling Silver
Compatibility: Helix Race GR 83mm Spindle cranks (73mm Cranks use Helix Race Chainrings)
Material: AL 7075-T6
Size: 34T / 36T options
Weight: 34T: 74g / 36T: 79g
Exceeding ASTM standard, did something change and the standard now includes meaningful component testing values? As far as I'm aware the standard only categorises bike use and general speeds and jumps with no meaningful loads to test components with...
enhance.gifinteresting that it's not the other demo with the high mount chain.appears to be a big ass brake. didn't doctor up the rear one appears to be...
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interesting that it's not the other demo with the high mount chain.
appears to be a big ass brake. didn't doctor up the rear one
appears to be a different caliper a few pics later:
edit: the rotors in the first pic look like magura, second pic looks like a gustav maybe?
On a large frame no less. You're welcome 🙂
New levers from Hope, or something custom? Pic stolen from the other site...
On the Bikes & Big Ideas podcast with the founder of Outlier MTB (Cam Belisle), around 25:40 the host talks about his favorite clip pedal being an HT, and it sounds like Cam responds with a “for now…”
Outlier Pendulum Clip pedal incoming?
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bikes-big-ideas/id1461144682?i=1000704766834
Yep
Adam Bryton has the same new-style lever, including an additional bolt at the base of the lever. Hope seems to have decided to add a separate port for brake pumping.
The right crank arm is slimmer too? Or did Sram update just the left crank?
The blade is an existing blade that hope hand out to their sponsored athletes with smaller hands. It's a bit less long, and sits closer to the bar compared to the stock lever. The bleed port is also in a convenient place so that it'll sit at the highest point in the system with the levers at a normal operational angle, meaning you won't have to 'tip' the lever up to bleed it anymore. Hopefully it's more of a revision or update to the tech 4 lever as it's definitely one of the best brakes on the market and nothing needs changing besides quality of life stuff.
It’s just the left. I believe the spindle and left arm are one piece on the new version to prevent clicking from the press fit interface.
Did they ever click? I haven't had a GXP or DUB crank click in the last almost 20 years of use. Same for Shimano before that. And making it one piece (though it was marketed as such when Transmission came out) has to be a b*tch ti make - hollow forged axle, machined crank, multi axis turned axle to make the diameters and the DS interface , drilled pedal thread, etc. It really makes very little sense and gives little gain to do it one piece...
Has anyone seen these pedals on Wyn's bike from Fort Bill before? The cleat binding looks very Shimano like, but I can't see any of their current pedals has a platform that shape? Seems like its extended at the back of the binding, for more support when dropping your heels, but then with less support up front? Pins on the back can be seen in the second photo. Whatever they are, they look WEIRD!
Isn't Wyn sponsored by Yoshimura? Looks like their prototype clipless pedals. There's a better picture here (first photo);
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/pinkbike-poll-what-do-you-look-for-in-a-c…
Yoshimura probably if it's Wyn's bike. Not featured on the website however.
Edit: simultaneous post. Great minds, etc....
https://theradavist.com/garbaruk-prototype-electronic-rear-derailleur-shifter/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaelZag3d4O1a2M1QZBopBdlhoSRDn0uHqzAhgS28r4c5rX7CeeJYmxb6gd8Fw_aem_xU64bsXYAW8sK1bwA6UtiQ
Bit more on the Garbaruk Derailleur and shifter ring as well
sean leader makes them - https://www.instagram.com/seanleader
Thank you for my evening chuckles my good man!! I thought I was the only one that couldn’t figure out posting pics. I can get some of them but some you have to be Einstein to post!!
Right click on desired image, copy image, paste into text box.
New e*thirteen Helix Race Alloy GR Cranks and Chainring
Helix Race Alloy GR Cranks
e*thirteen developed the Helix Race GR Cranks to meet the demands of downhill, big bike park laps, enduro, and freeride riders, engineered and tested with their World Cup and Enduro athletes for durability and performance in challenging conditions.
Working alongside our World Cup DH and Enduro athletes, e*thirteen engineered the new Helix Race GR Cranks. These Forged AL-6066-T6, CNC-sculpted aluminum cranks are designed for the rigors of downhill, big bike park laps, enduro, and freeride. The Helix Race GR shares the spindle design and low-profile shape with our top-end carbon and alloy cranks, with 83mm and 73mm spindle options. Helix Race GR cranks easily exceed ASTM 5 standards — a work of art made to take a beating.
Exceeds ASTM 5 standards for Downhill, Bike Park, Enduro and Freeride applications
Forged, CNC Machined, AL-6066-T6 arms and 30mm AL 7050-T7 spindle
73mm and 83mm spindle options for enduro and DH bikes
Available in popular gravity crank arm lengths, 160mm and 165mm
Molded crank boots, protective polymer decals, APS adjuster, and self-extractor system included
Product Specs:
Chainline:
83mm spindle cranks: Helix GR Chainrings for 56.5mm chainline
73mm spindle cranks: Helix Chainrings for 55mm chainline
Chainring:
83mm spindle cranks - Helix GR Chainring
73mm spindle cranks - Helix Race, Helix Plus, or Helix Steel DM Chainrings
*Not compatible with SL or UL Chainrings
Ring Color: Black, Sterling Silver
Features:
Exceeds ASTM 5 standards for gravity use
Forged and CNC Machined for optimized strength-to-weight ratio and classic styling
Molded crank boots
Adaptive Preload System (APS)
Proven P3 Connect polygon spindle interface
Length: 160mm, 165mm
Material: Forged, CNC Machined AL 6066-T6 arms, 30mm AL 7075-T73 spindle
Spindle:
Width: 73mm or 83mm
Diameter: 30mm
Interface: P3 Connect
Weight:
83mm x 160mm: 590g / 664g w 34t Ring
83mm x 165mm: 607g / 681g w 34T ring
73mm x 160mm: 584g / 638g w 34T Helix Race Chainring
73mm x 165mm: 599g / 653g w 34T Helix Race Chainring
$239.95 USD
Helix Race GR Direct Mount Chainrings
Helix Race GR chainrings are direct mount chainrings engineered to withstand the punishment of downhill, bike park, and freeride disciplines. They’re forged from AL 7075-T6 then machined for beauty and to handle the rigor of downhill riding. Our Quick Connect Direct Mount spline provides proven security and creak-free mounting. Featuring e*thirteen’s M4 narrow-wide tooth profile, GR Rings deliver flawless chain retention, reduced noise and system wear, and seamless compatibility with both Shimano and SRAM drivetrains (including T-type). Available in 34T and 36T sizes and Black or Sterling Silver color options.
Product Specs:
Chain Retention: Updated M4 narrow-wide tooth profile improved retention, reduced chain noise, and decreased system wear
Chainline: 56.5mm with Helix Race GR 83mm spindle cranks
Color: Black, Sterling Silver
Compatibility: Helix Race GR 83mm Spindle cranks (73mm Cranks use Helix Race Chainrings)
Material: AL 7075-T6
Size: 34T / 36T options
Weight: 34T: 74g / 36T: 79g
oneup drops wave flat pedal
Hopefully, they drop that stupid, massive inward bearing in the fact that you could feel the axle. This is one of the worst flat ever.
Their pre wave alloy? i've owned a set of those 'big bearing' pedals for years and i've probably put my foot on it once.
Regardless the answer to flat pedals is always the same.... go and buy clip pedals.
It's love it or hate it. I have three original ones in rotation, lent them out to friends, I've been running Outlier-esque prototypes for over a year (modular proto with a huge bulge) and they have been in rotation with friends as well and the bulge is 100 % a deal breaker or a non issue. There is no in between.
Exceeding ASTM standard, did something change and the standard now includes meaningful component testing values? As far as I'm aware the standard only categorises bike use and general speeds and jumps with no meaningful loads to test components with...
Idea is really cool but axle bump is not. Maybe next iteration they will finally fix that
I guess. Been on chromag scarabs since release. Never had an issue and they feel great to me. No need to change to a lesser quality design like this
Beauty!
They appear to be hiding something near the front axle...
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interesting that it's not the other demo with the high mount chain.
appears to be a big ass brake. didn't doctor up the rear one
appears to be a different caliper a few pics later:
edit: the rotors in the first pic look like magura, second pic looks like a gustav maybe?
is that a can of crab meat? 🦀😂
This is from 2024 Worlds in Andorra.
To buttoned up for a proto for sure.
Should be available by June/July. From what I could gather you‘ll need a different axle size, hence hub.
Nothing official, date nor axle standard, just rumors…