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ex-ballz
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1/19/2025 5:46pm

Word on the street is the new X2 is going horizontal in all but DH sizes... 

fergusr wrote:
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Nice Bronson, and with 160mm cranks! 😍 Too bad someone decided not to put a coiler on it. 😭
PS: why are we excited about the packaging of the shock internals?

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1/19/2025 9:11pm
dolface wrote:
Any ideas?

Any ideas?

IMG 3204

Tuned Mass Damper.

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1/20/2025 12:17am

Kaos on the new Orbea DH bike

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Kaos on the new Orbea DH bike

Kaos on the new Orbea DH bike

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already been posted 2 pages back, looks more like a rallon with DC fort… DH bike has a vertical shock.

1/20/2025 12:36am
Kaos on the new Orbea DH bike

Kaos on the new Orbea DH bike

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krabo83 wrote:

already been posted 2 pages back, looks more like a rallon with DC fort… DH bike has a vertical shock.

They wanted to built a new Freeride rig as well.

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1/20/2025 12:55am

No, Pinion was started by two ex Porsche engineers. 

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1/20/2025 2:02am

Word on the street is the new X2 is going horizontal in all but DH sizes... 

fergusr wrote:
e03efeee-edda-40d7-93f5-48ec486072cf-1 all 8815 3.jpg?VersionId=fNEsCvlFvEGm3W

Can't wait to spend another $1000 in tools just because they decided to change a bolt pattern or a diameter somewhere for no reason.

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1/20/2025 4:01am

Word on the street is the new X2 is going horizontal in all but DH sizes... 

fergusr wrote:
e03efeee-edda-40d7-93f5-48ec486072cf-1 all 8815 3.jpg?VersionId=fNEsCvlFvEGm3W

Can't wait to spend another $1000 in tools just because they decided to change a bolt pattern or a diameter somewhere for no reason.

Well, from what I've seen, the bottom of it looks suspiciously BB-tool shaped. Hopefully you're in luck.

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1/20/2025 7:11am
Have heard through a couple of shop owners/industry members that the 2026 Fox lineup will be very, very good. Not exactly sure in which way(s) it's...

Have heard through a couple of shop owners/industry members that the 2026 Fox lineup will be very, very good. Not exactly sure in which way(s) it's outstanding but I would consider their opinions to be in good faith

Shocks and forks? Or just shocks

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1/20/2025 7:26am
dolface wrote:
Any ideas?

Any ideas?

IMG 3204
Big Bird wrote:

Tuned Mass Damper.

Yes, I know 😀, I meant about the possible big news...

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Dodgems
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1/20/2025 7:34am Edited Date/Time 1/20/2025 7:36am

From Tahnee's insta:

 

Screenshot 2025-01-20 at 16.33.51.png?VersionId=H

 

feels like the bike's coming soon...

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1/20/2025 8:14am
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From Tahnee's insta:  feels like the bike's coming soon...

From Tahnee's insta:

 

Screenshot 2025-01-20 at 16.33.51.png?VersionId=H

 

feels like the bike's coming soon...

is the mechanic wearing a paper bag!?

 

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1/20/2025 8:25am
Dodgems wrote:
is the mechanic wearing a paper bag!? 

is the mechanic wearing a paper bag!?

 

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Wide brim boonie style hat and looking down. 

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1/20/2025 9:23am
Have heard through a couple of shop owners/industry members that the 2026 Fox lineup will be very, very good. Not exactly sure in which way(s) it's...

Have heard through a couple of shop owners/industry members that the 2026 Fox lineup will be very, very good. Not exactly sure in which way(s) it's outstanding but I would consider their opinions to be in good faith

DServy wrote:

Shocks and forks? Or just shocks

Definitely shocks, not totally sure about forks. Sorry should have made that more clear

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1/20/2025 9:27am
Have heard through a couple of shop owners/industry members that the 2026 Fox lineup will be very, very good. Not exactly sure in which way(s) it's...

Have heard through a couple of shop owners/industry members that the 2026 Fox lineup will be very, very good. Not exactly sure in which way(s) it's outstanding but I would consider their opinions to be in good faith

DServy wrote:

Shocks and forks? Or just shocks

Definitely shocks, not totally sure about forks. Sorry should have made that more clear

Can't remember where I heard/saw it but someone was talking about how Fox was scrambling a bit after the lackluster launch of the Grip X damper...

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1/20/2025 9:31am
DServy wrote:

Shocks and forks? Or just shocks

Definitely shocks, not totally sure about forks. Sorry should have made that more clear

dolface wrote:

Can't remember where I heard/saw it but someone was talking about how Fox was scrambling a bit after the lackluster launch of the Grip X damper...

I could see them updating the airspring/chassis for the next model, hard to see them launching a new damper so soon considering how long the GRIP2 stuck around for.

1/20/2025 9:41am
dolface wrote:
Any ideas?

Any ideas?

IMG 3204

It's the brake hose guide that catches my eye. Anyone know the manufacturer? 

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1/20/2025 11:55am Edited Date/Time 1/20/2025 11:55am

Good watch. Charlie Murray bike check. Stumpjumper 15 with vivid lyrik and brake ace sensors. 
Vivid coil seems interesting on the bike. 
https://youtu.be/uXJtsLQuVSA?si=Z21NcDtbThz69r82

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1/20/2025 12:04pm
dolface wrote:
Any ideas?

Any ideas?

IMG 3204

It's the brake hose guide that catches my eye. Anyone know the manufacturer? 

I think it’s just a generic moto hose guide.

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1/20/2025 6:43pm
dolface wrote:

Can't remember where I heard/saw it but someone was talking about how Fox was scrambling a bit after the lackluster launch of the Grip X damper...

Do you mean that the performance of Grip X is lacklustre?

At least that would make it easy to choose between the Grip X and the Grip X2...

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1/20/2025 6:51pm
Dodgems wrote:
From Tahnee's insta:  feels like the bike's coming soon...

From Tahnee's insta:

 

Screenshot 2025-01-20 at 16.33.51.png?VersionId=H

 

feels like the bike's coming soon...

Not a gear box. You can see the derailleur in the shadow. Sad. I dont care what anyone says, the gearbox hype is like drivetrains moving to 1 by 10/11/12. Sure at first it was janky 1x10 One Up conversion kits. But now we have transmission. Which is cool. But what would be cool is better gearboxes. 

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1/20/2025 8:50pm
dolface wrote:
Any ideas?

Any ideas?

IMG 3204

I think the big news is Downamics is the official UK agent for countershox. 

Oh and the brake setup is a carbon tube and a crf hose guide. I asked 😅

 

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1/21/2025 6:30am
dolface wrote:

Can't remember where I heard/saw it but someone was talking about how Fox was scrambling a bit after the lackluster launch of the Grip X damper...

boozed wrote:
Do you mean that the performance of Grip X is lacklustre?At least that would make it easy to choose between the Grip X and the Grip...

Do you mean that the performance of Grip X is lacklustre?

At least that would make it easy to choose between the Grip X and the Grip X2...

Grip X seems pretty widely accepted as a dud of a product. I don't know anyone who's bought one (maybe a sign right there). The red site guys talked about Grip X on their review of the new Ripmo a few months ago, saying it compromised the bike.

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1/21/2025 8:19am Edited Date/Time 1/21/2025 8:20am
dolface wrote:

Can't remember where I heard/saw it but someone was talking about how Fox was scrambling a bit after the lackluster launch of the Grip X damper...

boozed wrote:
Do you mean that the performance of Grip X is lacklustre?At least that would make it easy to choose between the Grip X and the Grip...

Do you mean that the performance of Grip X is lacklustre?

At least that would make it easy to choose between the Grip X and the Grip X2...

segamethod wrote:
Grip X seems pretty widely accepted as a dud of a product. I don't know anyone who's bought one (maybe a sign right there). The red...

Grip X seems pretty widely accepted as a dud of a product. I don't know anyone who's bought one (maybe a sign right there). The red site guys talked about Grip X on their review of the new Ripmo a few months ago, saying it compromised the bike.

I got a Gripx damper for my 34 to swap out from my Grip2 since they were selling them for a firesale. Everything I've seen/read seem to imply that it's a pretty solid damper for a 120 fork. Why anyone would want it for anything longer than like 120-130 is beyond me. 

I'll report back when I get to ride.... months from now. 

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Carraig042
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1/21/2025 8:33am
segamethod wrote:
Grip X seems pretty widely accepted as a dud of a product. I don't know anyone who's bought one (maybe a sign right there). The red...

Grip X seems pretty widely accepted as a dud of a product. I don't know anyone who's bought one (maybe a sign right there). The red site guys talked about Grip X on their review of the new Ripmo a few months ago, saying it compromised the bike.

I can see that. Based on what I read, when updating my fork from a Grip 2, the Grip X was not even on my radar. Only a couple rides (in the bitter cold) and the Grip X2 is feeling nice.

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1/21/2025 9:49am
Have heard through a couple of shop owners/industry members that the 2026 Fox lineup will be very, very good. Not exactly sure in which way(s) it's...

Have heard through a couple of shop owners/industry members that the 2026 Fox lineup will be very, very good. Not exactly sure in which way(s) it's outstanding but I would consider their opinions to be in good faith

DServy wrote:

Shocks and forks? Or just shocks

Definitely shocks, not totally sure about forks. Sorry should have made that more clear

The looks will take some time to grow on you imo…and some might mistaken your forks for one from Manitou Wink

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1/21/2025 9:59am
Sven_Claas wrote:
Agree, but I'm just a bit cautious this time around thinking they're introducing a new standard solely for the greater good of everyone's convenience without a...

Agree, but I'm just a bit cautious this time around thinking they're introducing a new standard solely for the greater good of everyone's convenience without a hidden catch in there somewhere. 

dolface wrote:

Curious, what's the hidden catch to UDH?

Bikes that now have heavier, more expensive wireless shifting, that not everyone wants. 

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ex-ballz
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1/21/2025 10:17am
Sven_Claas wrote:
Agree, but I'm just a bit cautious this time around thinking they're introducing a new standard solely for the greater good of everyone's convenience without a...

Agree, but I'm just a bit cautious this time around thinking they're introducing a new standard solely for the greater good of everyone's convenience without a hidden catch in there somewhere. 

dolface wrote:

Curious, what's the hidden catch to UDH?

rustle wrote:

Bikes that now have heavier, more expensive wireless shifting, that not everyone wants. 

That shifting existed pre-UDH and the vast majority of the UDH bikes still uses cable-actuated shifting, so this doesn't compute.

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1/21/2025 10:43am
dolface wrote:

Curious, what's the hidden catch to UDH?

rustle wrote:

Bikes that now have heavier, more expensive wireless shifting, that not everyone wants. 

ex-ballz wrote:

That shifting existed pre-UDH and the vast majority of the UDH bikes still uses cable-actuated shifting, so this doesn't compute.

It was less so about specifically having electronic shifting. More about a direct mounting rear derailleur. Any brand can license the UDH hanger (maybe not other drivetrain manufacturers) so their frame can fit both standard drivetrains but also this direct mounting wonder drivetrain that Transmission is stated as being. 

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1/21/2025 11:41am

I feel like there's been a bunch of speculation already, but looks like WAO officially confirmed they're no longer making Arrival's. On the other site, the Kamloops Trails Fundraiser, WAO makes it clear that the Arrival they are giving away is the last one they ever made. 

Raffle Mania — Kamloops Bike Riders Association (KBRA)

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