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TheFBI
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1/3/2025 12:01pm
TheFBI wrote:

Back to rumours : a major suspension player is making USD fork

To answer some of you : it's a dual crown, and it's not EXT or anyone else who currently makes a USD fork. 

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1/3/2025 1:03pm

Ohlins should try that as they are no strangers to USD forks from Motorsports. It would be pretty cool seeing a classic Ohlins gold USD DH40 on Bruni's rig. 

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Primoz
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1/3/2025 1:16pm

DVO? They don't make an USD fork, but they started off with one...

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sprungmass wrote:
Ohlins should try that as they are no strangers to USD forks from Motorsports. It would be pretty cool seeing a classic Ohlins gold USD DH40...

Ohlins should try that as they are no strangers to USD forks from Motorsports. It would be pretty cool seeing a classic Ohlins gold USD DH40 on Bruni's rig. 

there was an ohlins dc proto floating about in 2015:

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/ews-prototypes-ohlins-downhill-forks.html

and the fox dc from a couple years earlier:

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/fox-dh-fork-inverted-prototype-2012.html

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1/3/2025 1:53pm Edited Date/Time 1/3/2025 1:55pm
TheFBI wrote:

To answer some of you : it's a dual crown, and it's not EXT or anyone else who currently makes a USD fork. 

You’re not posting rumours.

You’re just gossiping and stirring. Either post something useful and insightful or don’t bother.

The “I’ve got a secret but I’m not telling anyone” is just a bit pathetic and more than childish.

It’s fine if you can’t say anything, but if that’s the case just be a adult and shush. This thread is clogged up enough as it is.

 

Lets face it, every major player is working on something so we can all post that quite easily!

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1/3/2025 1:59pm Edited Date/Time 1/3/2025 2:00pm
TheFBI wrote:

To answer some of you : it's a dual crown, and it's not EXT or anyone else who currently makes a USD fork. 

TimBud wrote:
You’re not posting rumours.You’re just gossiping and stirring. Either post something useful and insightful or don’t bother.The “I’ve got a secret but I’m not telling anyone”...

You’re not posting rumours.

You’re just gossiping and stirring. Either post something useful and insightful or don’t bother.

The “I’ve got a secret but I’m not telling anyone” is just a bit pathetic and more than childish.

It’s fine if you can’t say anything, but if that’s the case just be a adult and shush. This thread is clogged up enough as it is.

 

Lets face it, every major player is working on something so we can all post that quite easily!

Brother do you know what a rumour is? If I just tell everyone what brand is developing it or which riders will be running it this season it's not a rumour it's just a statement of fact. Keeping it vague enough for people to guess and put forward some theories as to who it could be is what makes it fun.

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1/3/2025 2:06pm Edited Date/Time 1/3/2025 2:07pm
TheFBI wrote:

To answer some of you : it's a dual crown, and it's not EXT or anyone else who currently makes a USD fork. 

TimBud wrote:
You’re not posting rumours.You’re just gossiping and stirring. Either post something useful and insightful or don’t bother.The “I’ve got a secret but I’m not telling anyone”...

You’re not posting rumours.

You’re just gossiping and stirring. Either post something useful and insightful or don’t bother.

The “I’ve got a secret but I’m not telling anyone” is just a bit pathetic and more than childish.

It’s fine if you can’t say anything, but if that’s the case just be a adult and shush. This thread is clogged up enough as it is.

 

Lets face it, every major player is working on something so we can all post that quite easily!

TheFBI wrote:
Brother do you know what a rumour is? If I just tell everyone what brand is developing it or which riders will be running it this...

Brother do you know what a rumour is? If I just tell everyone what brand is developing it or which riders will be running it this season it's not a rumour it's just a statement of fact. Keeping it vague enough for people to guess and put forward some theories as to who it could be is what makes it fun.

Here’s a rumour:

Fox and Rockshox are both working on something new.

Bravo kiddo 

Let’s state the obvious. Is this really the level that we’ve sunk to now.

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1/3/2025 2:22pm

Maybe the rumor is that this new inverted fork will launch in 2025

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1/3/2025 2:32pm
Simcik wrote:

Maybe the rumor is that this new inverted fork will launch in 2025

Exactly this - not that complicated guys. You can all go back to chatting about bearings now.

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1/3/2025 2:57pm

Be nice. 

Also, you have to remember that development is secret and maybe he doesn't want to put that XXX brand is making a USD fork as they will know he is the one who leaked it, as potentially only a handful of people currently know. 

 

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1/3/2025 3:01pm

Maybe the real Tech Rumors and Innovation were the friends we made along the way.

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1/3/2025 4:27pm

Didn't Rock Shox make an XCUSD fork a while ago? Perhaps they're using what they learned from that to move it into the DH market?

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1/3/2025 4:51pm
Big Bird wrote:

Didn't Rock Shox make an XCUSD fork a while ago? Perhaps they're using what they learned from that to move it into the DH market?

Oh yeah the RS1.
That thing was the most ridiculously flexy pile of poo!.... It deserved to die.
 

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1/3/2025 5:14pm
sprungmass wrote:
Ohlins should try that as they are no strangers to USD forks from Motorsports. It would be pretty cool seeing a classic Ohlins gold USD DH40...

Ohlins should try that as they are no strangers to USD forks from Motorsports. It would be pretty cool seeing a classic Ohlins gold USD DH40 on Bruni's rig. 

Didn't Ohlins recently announce they weren't going to develop any new MTB products?

Hmm, I guess this isn't super clear though...

"During 2023 we reached our goal of a full MTB portfolio, from DH to XC. This means we are entering a new phase where we will be improving performance through a combination of running changes and new m.X versions.

When it comes to MTB racing, we’re not going anywhere, as it is the backbone of our innovation. We will remain involved with our partner teams in both Downhill and XC racing, and we look forward to the future seasons.

The decision to restructure platform development and distribution will not affect our existing product line, and our full range of MTB shocks and forks will be available in the market. Assistance with service, maintenance, and warranty claims will also continue as usual through our global network of authorized dealers and service centers."

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1/4/2025 10:09am Edited Date/Time 1/4/2025 10:10am

Is the rumored USD fork a MTB fork or e-Moto? Is anyone paying attention to all the new players in the e-moto business and what impact it's having on the traditional moto and mtb/e-bike market. As a father of a teenage boy I'm constantly being informed about the all the new products. How about Sirris suspension, my son says rumor is former Fox and Ohlins employees. https://ridesirris.com/

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airwreck wrote:
Is the rumored USD fork a MTB fork or e-Moto? Is anyone paying attention to all the new players in the e-moto business and what impact...

Is the rumored USD fork a MTB fork or e-Moto? Is anyone paying attention to all the new players in the e-moto business and what impact it's having on the traditional moto and mtb/e-bike market. As a father of a teenage boy I'm constantly being informed about the all the new products. How about Sirris suspension, my son says rumor is former Fox and Ohlins employees. https://ridesirris.com/

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TheFBI wrote:

Back to rumours : a major suspension player is making USD fork

It’s Fox 😉

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1/4/2025 12:27pm
Big Bird wrote:

Didn't Rock Shox make an XCUSD fork a while ago? Perhaps they're using what they learned from that to move it into the DH market?

Dave Waugh wrote:

Oh yeah the RS1.
That thing was the most ridiculously flexy pile of poo!.... It deserved to die.
 

I probably service 1 of those a year, and one I did recently had done about 10,000k without a service and was in pretty damn good condition inside. The USD concept of keeping oil on the bushings is way more beneficial than people give it credit for.

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1/4/2025 12:58pm
jofish wrote:

VitalMTB

Yes, and the relevance to MTB is the fact that the demand for 40/58's for e-moto's is significant and why haven't any of the established suspension companies pursued that market which at this point looks poised to dwarf the MTB DH fork market. 

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1/4/2025 1:09pm Edited Date/Time 1/4/2025 1:10pm
airwreck wrote:
Yes, and the relevance to MTB is the fact that the demand for 40/58's for e-moto's is significant and why haven't any of the established suspension...

Yes, and the relevance to MTB is the fact that the demand for 40/58's for e-moto's is significant and why haven't any of the established suspension companies pursued that market which at this point looks poised to dwarf the MTB DH fork market. 

They have and do.

However the stigma of and use of those “throttle assisted” (not pedal assisted) ebikes means that they prefer not to shout about it.

 

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1/4/2025 1:38pm

Nothing to do with stigma. I just don’t think anyone’s 768 pages down this particular rabbit hole to get excited about whispers of a new e-moto fork. 

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jofish wrote:
Nothing to do with stigma. I just don’t think anyone’s 768 pages down this particular rabbit hole to get excited about whispers of a new e-moto...

Nothing to do with stigma. I just don’t think anyone’s 768 pages down this particular rabbit hole to get excited about whispers of a new e-moto fork. 

Worked for a company selling a shit ton of brakes to Surron. They'd take the money, but did not shout about it considering the amount of chavs that bomb around on them balaclavad up and knicking purses in London.

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1/4/2025 5:16pm Edited Date/Time 1/4/2025 5:22pm
jofish wrote:
Nothing to do with stigma. I just don’t think anyone’s 768 pages down this particular rabbit hole to get excited about whispers of a new e-moto...

Nothing to do with stigma. I just don’t think anyone’s 768 pages down this particular rabbit hole to get excited about whispers of a new e-moto fork. 

Someone should tell Manitou how wrong it is for them to sell boatloads of Dorado's to Surron owners. I would be extremely surprised if they actually sold more to the MTB market at this point. A big suspension company would have to be pretty clueless to ignore the e-moto market at this point tbh.

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SC Syndicate testing with Massdampers. Maybe Fox is involved? https://www.instagram.com/p/DEVEjsXC7xP/?img_index=5&igsh=MWc3YnlhcHpleTU0MA==

SC Syndicate testing with Massdampers. Maybe Fox is involved? 
https://www.instagram.com/p/DEVEjsXC7xP/?img_index=5&igsh=MWc3YnlhcHple…

The one they habe mounted is definetly the countershox, but Fox is probably working on something their own

1/5/2025 5:52am

Fox working on a new Float X2 👀 post from frameworks racing


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1/5/2025 6:51am Edited Date/Time 1/5/2025 6:51am
SC Syndicate testing with Massdampers. Maybe Fox is involved? https://www.instagram.com/p/DEVEjsXC7xP/?img_index=5&igsh=MWc3YnlhcHpleTU0MA==

SC Syndicate testing with Massdampers. Maybe Fox is involved? 
https://www.instagram.com/p/DEVEjsXC7xP/?img_index=5&igsh=MWc3YnlhcHple…

juliusk wrote:

The one they habe mounted is definetly the countershox, but Fox is probably working on something their own

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Fox working on a new Float X2 👀 post from frameworks racing

Fox working on a new Float X2 👀 post from frameworks racing


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Looks like they’re making room for a Neo battery.

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1/5/2025 7:42am

Now that it’s no longer an anniversary year for fox can teams finally ditch those gold lowers?

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Fox working on a new Float X2 👀 post from frameworks racing

Fox working on a new Float X2 👀 post from frameworks racing


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chriskief wrote:

Looks like they’re making room for a Neo battery.

It looks like they refined the air can to be a true hand grenade for when it does blow up. /s

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