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How reliable is that source ? Website seems very sketchy and its location is in Belgium.The website also mentions a new Forbidden Reya XC non high...

How reliable is that source ? Website seems very sketchy and its location is in Belgium.

The website also mentions a new Forbidden Reya XC non high pivot bike.

I believe I mentioned something about new forbidden bikes and everyone just immediately assumed eBikes.......

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New rockshox axs dropper

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12/4/2024 7:05pm

surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so out of place and odd.
We buy all these nice clean looking bikes then a huge bulge 3/4 up a seat tube lol.
I've been wanting a wireless dropper but not when they look like that lmao

 

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surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so...

surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so out of place and odd.
We buy all these nice clean looking bikes then a huge bulge 3/4 up a seat tube lol.
I've been wanting a wireless dropper but not when they look like that lmao

 

Agreed. It looks terrible in photos and in person. Really hoping BikeYoke releases their wireless version and/or an aftermarket kit to retrofit your existing dropper. 

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12/4/2024 7:55pm
surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so...

surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so out of place and odd.
We buy all these nice clean looking bikes then a huge bulge 3/4 up a seat tube lol.
I've been wanting a wireless dropper but not when they look like that lmao

 

I’m with you. I want my bikes to look good (to me) and that battery placement makes my eye twitch. 

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12/4/2024 8:35pm
bermed wrote:

Looks sweet but no water bottle bosses even though there's plenty of space 🤦

There's a strap-to-the-bike Fidlock mount which is less ideal but at least it's an option.

I have it on my fixed gear commuter. It's better than nothing, for sure!

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12/4/2024 9:24pm
Trocko wrote:
New rockshox axs dropper

New rockshox axs dropper

IMG 4791.jpeg?VersionId=RkC1RJEa11A6Uh0Z33P

That cassette looks bigger than 52 tooth

What frame is that?

Dropper looks fugly

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That cassette looks bigger than 52 tooth

What frame is that?

Dropper looks fugly

Looks like a Stumpy 15, and based on the Red Bull helmet, dirt, and flora I’m guessing it’s Curtis Keene the American Dream riding somewhere near me in LA

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Trocko wrote:
New rockshox axs dropper

New rockshox axs dropper

IMG 4791.jpeg?VersionId=RkC1RJEa11A6Uh0Z33P

who‘s that, curtis keene?

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12/5/2024 6:04am
bermed wrote:

Looks sweet but no water bottle bosses even though there's plenty of space 🤦

They tried to justify that: "because 170mm bikes are made for shuttling and lift-assisted rides". DUDE

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12/5/2024 8:07am
bermed wrote:

Looks sweet but no water bottle bosses even though there's plenty of space 🤦

Nico_Hrndz wrote:
They tried to justify that: "because 170mm bikes are made for shuttling and lift-assisted rides". DUDE

They tried to justify that: "because 170mm bikes are made for shuttling and lift-assisted rides". DUDE

picard-facepalm

Huge part of the appeal of these new 170-180mm park bikes is a water bottle. (and a dropper post)

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surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so...

surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so out of place and odd.
We buy all these nice clean looking bikes then a huge bulge 3/4 up a seat tube lol.
I've been wanting a wireless dropper but not when they look like that lmao

 

You are right..It’s not a great design at all. no idea why they would partner up with a brand that does saddle and conceal it under the seat better or stored in the saddle.. that area is always a dirt and grime hot spot, why not just fully enclose the rails at the same time. 

12/5/2024 10:33am
Trocko wrote:
New rockshox axs dropper

New rockshox axs dropper

IMG 4791.jpeg?VersionId=RkC1RJEa11A6Uh0Z33P

Based on the styling it makes me want to buy the current one, unless there's some functionality/price/reliability benefit? 

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surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so...

surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so out of place and odd.
We buy all these nice clean looking bikes then a huge bulge 3/4 up a seat tube lol.
I've been wanting a wireless dropper but not when they look like that lmao

 

sprungmass wrote:

Agreed. It looks terrible in photos and in person. Really hoping BikeYoke releases their wireless version and/or an aftermarket kit to retrofit your existing dropper. 

I just hope they gave up with putting the battery on the bottom of the post. Removing the post to charge/ change the battery is dumb. 

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12/5/2024 11:23am

Huge part of the appeal of these new 170-180mm park bikes is a water bottle. (and a dropper post)

Problem is, the Radical is not labelled as a park bike but as an enduro....

And still, even on bikepark days i'm kinda fond of, well, not dying of thirst in the middle of a 1200d- run, so yeah: two screws less is a deal breaker.

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12/5/2024 11:35am

Huge part of the appeal of these new 170-180mm park bikes is a water bottle. (and a dropper post)

Nico_Hrndz wrote:
Problem is, the Radical is not labelled as a park bike but as an enduro....And still, even on bikepark days i'm kinda fond of, well, not...

Problem is, the Radical is not labelled as a park bike but as an enduro....

And still, even on bikepark days i'm kinda fond of, well, not dying of thirst in the middle of a 1200d- run, so yeah: two screws less is a deal breaker.

Oh I've never found bike park runs to be something I couldn't live without water until the bottom of. You don't have to drink every 15 minutes. I am guilty of taking a camo bag cooler down first run and stashing in an area where the beer is available half way down. 😁

That said trail bikes should absolutely should have bottle bosses 100%. 170mm bikes are trail bikes even if they are burly ones. Not sure why people push the 170-180mm stuff as uplift only. They are not dh bikes, will never be, and are not intended to be. 

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12/5/2024 11:54am Edited Date/Time 12/5/2024 12:01pm

Huge part of the appeal of these new 170-180mm park bikes is a water bottle. (and a dropper post)

Nico_Hrndz wrote:
Problem is, the Radical is not labelled as a park bike but as an enduro....And still, even on bikepark days i'm kinda fond of, well, not...

Problem is, the Radical is not labelled as a park bike but as an enduro....

And still, even on bikepark days i'm kinda fond of, well, not dying of thirst in the middle of a 1200d- run, so yeah: two screws less is a deal breaker.

Cougar797 wrote:
Oh I've never found bike park runs to be something I couldn't live without water until the bottom of. You don't have to drink every 15...

Oh I've never found bike park runs to be something I couldn't live without water until the bottom of. You don't have to drink every 15 minutes. I am guilty of taking a camo bag cooler down first run and stashing in an area where the beer is available half way down. 😁

That said trail bikes should absolutely should have bottle bosses 100%. 170mm bikes are trail bikes even if they are burly ones. Not sure why people push the 170-180mm stuff as uplift only. They are not dh bikes, will never be, and are not intended to be. 

Now that so many companies are making things that aren't bottles with mounts for bottle bosses, i.e. tools, tubes, pumps, bags, etc, all bikes, including ,DH bikes should have bosses somewhere, even if there isn't actually room for a full water bottle. Lots of bikes have a second set on the underside of the top tube these days even though usually you can't put a bottle there (bonus for XL frames when sometimes you can). 

 

Anybody whose broken something in the top third of the Garbo zone without spares knows the pain... 

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surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so...

surely i cant be the only one who hates the fox neo dropper design, ie the system being at the mid cap assembly, it looks so out of place and odd.
We buy all these nice clean looking bikes then a huge bulge 3/4 up a seat tube lol.
I've been wanting a wireless dropper but not when they look like that lmao

 

sprungmass wrote:

Agreed. It looks terrible in photos and in person. Really hoping BikeYoke releases their wireless version and/or an aftermarket kit to retrofit your existing dropper. 

I just hope they gave up with putting the battery on the bottom of the post. Removing the post to charge/ change the battery is dumb. 

So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.

I'm sure someone would pay good money for another idea of where else to put it.

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12/5/2024 12:25pm
chriskief wrote:
So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.I'm...

So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.

I'm sure someone would pay good money for another idea of where else to put it.

^This. There is nowhere else to put it. Functionally mid-post makes the most sense (probably why Fox and RS landed there) and internally is the best aesthetically. 

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sprungmass wrote:

Agreed. It looks terrible in photos and in person. Really hoping BikeYoke releases their wireless version and/or an aftermarket kit to retrofit your existing dropper. 

I just hope they gave up with putting the battery on the bottom of the post. Removing the post to charge/ change the battery is dumb. 

chriskief wrote:
So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.I'm...

So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.

I'm sure someone would pay good money for another idea of where else to put it.

A nearby body cavity, with a wireless energy transfer? 

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12/5/2024 12:35pm
chriskief wrote:
So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.I'm...

So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.

I'm sure someone would pay good money for another idea of where else to put it.

Externally routed to a battery pack that mounts to the bottle cage bosses. That way you can have the joy of routing wires like a traditional dropper.

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12/5/2024 12:57pm
sprungmass wrote:

Agreed. It looks terrible in photos and in person. Really hoping BikeYoke releases their wireless version and/or an aftermarket kit to retrofit your existing dropper. 

I just hope they gave up with putting the battery on the bottom of the post. Removing the post to charge/ change the battery is dumb. 

chriskief wrote:
So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.I'm...

So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.

I'm sure someone would pay good money for another idea of where else to put it.

A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and a charge port accessible through the in-frame storage box. Backup option is a charge plug coming out of the frame port. Compatible with all wired dropper posts. I might be working on something similar 😉

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I just hope they gave up with putting the battery on the bottom of the post. Removing the post to charge/ change the battery is dumb. 

chriskief wrote:
So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.I'm...

So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.

I'm sure someone would pay good money for another idea of where else to put it.

sprungmass wrote:
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and...

A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and a charge port accessible through the in-frame storage box. Backup option is a charge plug coming out of the frame port. Compatible with all wired dropper posts. I might be working on something similar 😉

Guesses as to what the little gizmo on the collar is?

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12/5/2024 1:02pm
dolface wrote:
Guesses as to what the little gizmo on the collar is?

Guesses as to what the little gizmo on the collar is?

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Weed storage.

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dolface wrote:
Guesses as to what the little gizmo on the collar is?

Guesses as to what the little gizmo on the collar is?

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Weed storage.

Weed storage for ANTS...

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12/5/2024 1:07pm
chriskief wrote:
So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.I'm...

So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.

I'm sure someone would pay good money for another idea of where else to put it.

sprungmass wrote:
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and...

A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and a charge port accessible through the in-frame storage box. Backup option is a charge plug coming out of the frame port. Compatible with all wired dropper posts. I might be working on something similar 😉

dolface wrote:
Guesses as to what the little gizmo on the collar is?

Guesses as to what the little gizmo on the collar is?

Image

A Life Alert button? Might be handy now that I'm getting old. 

Life Alert TV Spot, 'Home Alone' - iSpot.tv

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12/5/2024 1:09pm
chriskief wrote:
So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.I'm...

So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.

I'm sure someone would pay good money for another idea of where else to put it.

sprungmass wrote:
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and...

A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and a charge port accessible through the in-frame storage box. Backup option is a charge plug coming out of the frame port. Compatible with all wired dropper posts. I might be working on something similar 😉

dolface wrote:
Guesses as to what the little gizmo on the collar is?

Guesses as to what the little gizmo on the collar is?

Image

Totally looks like a rubber cover for a charge port. They could have machined a channel in the lower tube to run wires down to the actuator.

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12/5/2024 1:18pm
sprungmass wrote:

Agreed. It looks terrible in photos and in person. Really hoping BikeYoke releases their wireless version and/or an aftermarket kit to retrofit your existing dropper. 

I just hope they gave up with putting the battery on the bottom of the post. Removing the post to charge/ change the battery is dumb. 

chriskief wrote:
So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.I'm...

So the battery at the seat rail clamp is too bulky, around the middle of the post is ugly, and hidden at the bottom is inconvenient.

I'm sure someone would pay good money for another idea of where else to put it.

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12/5/2024 1:27pm
sprungmass wrote:
A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and...

A wirelessly actuated linear servo placed near the BB shell. Think Di2 battery form factor. A beefy 21700 cell that lasts half a riding season and a charge port accessible through the in-frame storage box. Backup option is a charge plug coming out of the frame port. Compatible with all wired dropper posts. I might be working on something similar 😉

dolface wrote:
Guesses as to what the little gizmo on the collar is?

Guesses as to what the little gizmo on the collar is?

Image

sprungmass wrote:
Totally looks like a rubber cover for a charge port. They could have machined a channel in the lower tube to run wires down to the...

Totally looks like a rubber cover for a charge port. They could have machined a channel in the lower tube to run wires down to the actuator.

That's my thought too, wondering what that means for the upgrade add-on you mentioned above? I haven't heard about that but if it's a thing then maybe there are 2 versions; add-on w/ a bottom charging port and new one w/ collar port?

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