I like the fluid injection system on the shock. I've wanted something just like it - there are plenty of bikes which run the shock "upside down" and the lubrication runs to the bottom so they always dry out way faster than when oriented the other way. would make a noticeable improvement to performance and longevity
Well the extra medium reach is around what most other brand large are. So Ibis new large should be compared to most other brand X-Large which are usually in that 500-510mm reach range.
The travel bump to 150mm and switch to a 34.9mm seatpost was expected (HD6 is also 34.9). The 203mm rear rotor limit is kinda low for such a bike.
Frame weight is significantly higher than last gen Ripmo at 3450g, last gen was around 2800g with the same shock. Kinda worried that the new ripley frame will also be very heavy. Should know later today.
Ripmo V3 via German site:
My critiques after just grazing over it are CS are short and what is with the 500+mm reach on the large. ...
Ripmo V3 via German site:
My critiques after just grazing over it are CS are short and what is with the 500+mm reach on the large.
There's been a lot of conversation about chainstay length recently. I am a big guy, riding a XL and I gotta say, for a trail bike I don't want this massive chainstay. My bikes are big enough as is. Me trying to navigate a tight trail system is hard enough on a ~1270 wheel base. Enduro and DH race bikes, yes, all for longer stays. But the Ripmo is firmly a long travel trail bike with the introduction of the HD6.
Ripmo V3 via German site:
My critiques after just grazing over it are CS are short and what is with the 500+mm reach on the large. ...
Ripmo V3 via German site:
My critiques after just grazing over it are CS are short and what is with the 500+mm reach on the large.
Did y'all notice the BB height changes dramatically between sizes, from 338 to 350mm? I don't think I've ever seen that on a geo chart. Meanwhile the chainstay length only changes 5mm from smallest to biggest. Kinda odd.
There's been a lot of conversation about chainstay length recently. I am a big guy, riding a XL and I gotta say, for a trail bike...
There's been a lot of conversation about chainstay length recently. I am a big guy, riding a XL and I gotta say, for a trail bike I don't want this massive chainstay. My bikes are big enough as is. Me trying to navigate a tight trail system is hard enough on a ~1270 wheel base. Enduro and DH race bikes, yes, all for longer stays. But the Ripmo is firmly a long travel trail bike with the introduction of the HD6.
I’d rather have traction any day. A couple centimeters doesn’t actually make it harder to get around a turn, and the overall traction you gain will make up for it many times over. I’ve been riding some of the tightest twistiest tracks and I find it’s only better now that I got a longer chainstay on the bike.
I'm on team long CS, and I ride mostly tighter, flatter, natural trails. The traction and confidence boost give me, as a 'fast dad' level rider, much more opportunity to push a bike hard through corners and force it through than rely on a bit less wheel base to negotiate a turn.
New Ibis geometry is strange - I think we're seeing some fall out from designing one front triangle for multiple bikes. I never wanted a GG for exactly that reason, as much as I loved other aspects of those bikes.
Weird the ESTA is steeper in small, then slacker in m/xm, then steeper again in the big sizes. Usually they just say it's the same across the board or steepens slightly as size goes up. Must be for rear wheel clearance.
As to the short cs/long cs thing, I'll just say I wouldn't want all brands to be on the short train or long train. Why should every brand go long? That would be boring. Options are better for consumers on the whole.
I'm on team long CS, and I ride mostly tighter, flatter, natural trails. The traction and confidence boost give me, as a 'fast dad' level rider...
I'm on team long CS, and I ride mostly tighter, flatter, natural trails. The traction and confidence boost give me, as a 'fast dad' level rider, much more opportunity to push a bike hard through corners and force it through than rely on a bit less wheel base to negotiate a turn.
New Ibis geometry is strange - I think we're seeing some fall out from designing one front triangle for multiple bikes. I never wanted a GG for exactly that reason, as much as I loved other aspects of those bikes.
How much does a complete bike weigh?
A size extra medium Ripley 5 frame with a Float shock weighs 7.3lbs / 3.3 kg. Our complete builds (size extra medium) begin at 29.43 lbs (13.3 kg) with all frame protection installed and sealant in the tires.
I dont think that longer chain stays for longer reaches necessarily makes the bikes handle similar proportionately. Your feet are still in the same spot in relation to the rear wheel no matter how tall you are. So you are helping the overall front to back balance of the bike but it will still feel differently than a smaller size if all else is equal.
I also think people put a little too much thought into some of these numbers, that's the beautiful thing about the human body between hips,knees and ankles we can really manipulate our body weight balance pretty efficiently.
But is it a 24/26 mullet with no drivetrain?
Ibis teasing the new Ripmo release for Tuesday. Looks like rear flip chip for mullet, frame storage, normal cables. Linkage looks like the HD6.
Actually… that is a 34… Ripley with a flip chip?
Flipley (I'll get my coat)
This is precisely what we intend to find out.
Looks like both carbon and aluminum options still. Nice.
99% sure that's just calling out a carbon wheel upgrade
Good call. I wondered why they would abandon the AF theme...
fyi i deleted the thunder mountain screenshots b/c thunder mountain asked. they messed up with page being live.
Looks cool.
I like the fluid injection system on the shock. I've wanted something just like it - there are plenty of bikes which run the shock "upside down" and the lubrication runs to the bottom so they always dry out way faster than when oriented the other way. would make a noticeable improvement to performance and longevity
And it also has a foam ring to aid the lubrication. So obvious when you think about it in hindsight, cool idea nevertheless.
The flex on that fork
Ripmo V3 via German site:
My critiques after just grazing over it are CS are short and what is with the 500+mm reach on the large.
could have just called it S M L XL XXL instead of S M XM L XL tbh, sizing seems in line
also these are a lot more pleasant to look at than the eye cancer inducing last generation
Well the extra medium reach is around what most other brand large are. So Ibis new large should be compared to most other brand X-Large which are usually in that 500-510mm reach range.
The travel bump to 150mm and switch to a 34.9mm seatpost was expected (HD6 is also 34.9). The 203mm rear rotor limit is kinda low for such a bike.
Frame weight is significantly higher than last gen Ripmo at 3450g, last gen was around 2800g with the same shock. Kinda worried that the new ripley frame will also be very heavy. Should know later today.
There's been a lot of conversation about chainstay length recently. I am a big guy, riding a XL and I gotta say, for a trail bike I don't want this massive chainstay. My bikes are big enough as is. Me trying to navigate a tight trail system is hard enough on a ~1270 wheel base. Enduro and DH race bikes, yes, all for longer stays. But the Ripmo is firmly a long travel trail bike with the introduction of the HD6.
Did y'all notice the BB height changes dramatically between sizes, from 338 to 350mm? I don't think I've ever seen that on a geo chart. Meanwhile the chainstay length only changes 5mm from smallest to biggest. Kinda odd.
Wow those are some baaaaad numbers. I feel bad for ibis, they finally get their design up to speed and then their geo is horribly outdated.
Chainstay is too short. RIP. Maybe I’ll end up going with the SJ after all. Just wish the Bb was a little higher on SJ in long chainstay mode.
I’d rather have traction any day. A couple centimeters doesn’t actually make it harder to get around a turn, and the overall traction you gain will make up for it many times over. I’ve been riding some of the tightest twistiest tracks and I find it’s only better now that I got a longer chainstay on the bike.
Long cs setting + 160 fork could help a little?
I'm on team long CS, and I ride mostly tighter, flatter, natural trails. The traction and confidence boost give me, as a 'fast dad' level rider, much more opportunity to push a bike hard through corners and force it through than rely on a bit less wheel base to negotiate a turn.
New Ibis geometry is strange - I think we're seeing some fall out from designing one front triangle for multiple bikes. I never wanted a GG for exactly that reason, as much as I loved other aspects of those bikes.
Weird the ESTA is steeper in small, then slacker in m/xm, then steeper again in the big sizes. Usually they just say it's the same across the board or steepens slightly as size goes up. Must be for rear wheel clearance.
As to the short cs/long cs thing, I'll just say I wouldn't want all brands to be on the short train or long train. Why should every brand go long? That would be boring. Options are better for consumers on the whole.
Very well put on the difference in cornering.
WTF did they do to the Ripley?
How much does a complete bike weigh?
A size extra medium Ripley 5 frame with a Float shock weighs 7.3lbs / 3.3 kg. Our complete builds (size extra medium) begin at 29.43 lbs (13.3 kg) with all frame protection installed and sealant in the tires.
https://www.ibiscycles.com/bikes/ripley#section-bike-specs
Really does look like they're sharing front triangles b/w the Ripley and Ripmo. BB on the smaller sizes is super low.
here's an 18-minute tech talk video with Ibis' head engineer discussing the ripmo and ripley. - full details here - https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/ibis-cycles-announces-all-new-ripmo…
I dont think that longer chain stays for longer reaches necessarily makes the bikes handle similar proportionately. Your feet are still in the same spot in relation to the rear wheel no matter how tall you are. So you are helping the overall front to back balance of the bike but it will still feel differently than a smaller size if all else is equal.
I also think people put a little too much thought into some of these numbers, that's the beautiful thing about the human body between hips,knees and ankles we can really manipulate our body weight balance pretty efficiently.