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9/29/2023 1:34am
Modular 'main' pivot (for a position with an idler), link mount and shock mount; I love it. (Edit - damn, it's a prototype. Would love to...

Modular 'main' pivot (for a position with an idler), link mount and shock mount; I love it. (Edit - damn, it's a prototype. Would love to see more of that on production bikes, although Canfield has a patent on the adjustable main pivot point.)

Link to patent? I've had this exact idea floating around my head for a few years and I was going to try and build a steel...

Link to patent? I've had this exact idea floating around my head for a few years and I was going to try and build a steel framed version

#US20210380195A1 Posted about it in this thread a month or two ago; it showed up on a bike Canfield was racing as well so it's definitely...

#US20210380195A1

Posted about it in this thread a month or two ago; it showed up on a bike Canfield was racing as well so it's definitely in the works (he's calling it "Formula Three" suspension).

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9/29/2023 4:48am
Link to patent? I've had this exact idea floating around my head for a few years and I was going to try and build a steel...

Link to patent? I've had this exact idea floating around my head for a few years and I was going to try and build a steel framed version

#US20210380195A1 Posted about it in this thread a month or two ago; it showed up on a bike Canfield was racing as well so it's definitely...

#US20210380195A1

Posted about it in this thread a month or two ago; it showed up on a bike Canfield was racing as well so it's definitely in the works (he's calling it "Formula Three" suspension).

That rocker link definitely has early intense prototype vibes. Makes sense since they were utilizing his CBF formula. 

9/29/2023 5:57am

I’ve seen it - although i’m not in love with it, it’s still better in my eyes than a Nikolai…

Jakub_G wrote:

Why are you asking about HP with belt drive then? 🤨

Sorry, you're right - and i thought you're talking about the visual design... :D

Ontopic - new Nukeproof Megawatt sure looks porky as hell!

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9/29/2023 8:19am

Not sure you know what a moped is but that’s for your triggered comment Smile

The internet knows what a moped is. Read that second line real, real slow. 

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9/29/2023 8:47am

Most of the Powertrain articles show a new Propain e-bike; the lower link is different from the current Ekano 2 and it has a Vivid shock, so it could be a new longer-travel model or just the Ekano 3.

9/29/2023 11:37am
Modular 'main' pivot (for a position with an idler), link mount and shock mount; I love it. (Edit - damn, it's a prototype. Would love to...

Modular 'main' pivot (for a position with an idler), link mount and shock mount; I love it. (Edit - damn, it's a prototype. Would love to see more of that on production bikes, although Canfield has a patent on the adjustable main pivot point.)

Link to patent? I've had this exact idea floating around my head for a few years and I was going to try and build a steel...

Link to patent? I've had this exact idea floating around my head for a few years and I was going to try and build a steel framed version

#US20210380195A1 Posted about it in this thread a month or two ago; it showed up on a bike Canfield was racing as well so it's definitely...

#US20210380195A1

Posted about it in this thread a month or two ago; it showed up on a bike Canfield was racing as well so it's definitely in the works (he's calling it "Formula Three" suspension).

"Axle suspensions for mounting axles resiliently on cycle frame or fork with pivoted chain-stay the shock absorber being connected to the chain-stay via a linkage mechanism"

So theres room for a single pivot with an adjustable pivot point in this patent!

9/30/2023 6:10am

Galfer disc not-shark. Taken from the vital Insta.

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9/30/2023 7:08am
Galfer disc not-shark. Taken from the vital Insta.

Galfer disc not-shark. Taken from the vital Insta.

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Pretty sure this has been discussed somewhere and I seem to remember them being prototype TRP rotors? They're also testing some new levers at the moment which were in a Pit Bits from Andorra, so it would make sense that they were testing rotors too

20230823 UCI DH WorldCUp Andorra Z4A8226

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9/30/2023 8:11am

Yep, TRP rotors intense has been running for ages.

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9/30/2023 1:15pm Edited Date/Time 9/30/2023 1:15pm

bike abuse from snowshoe for some homework

 

if you didn't watch this race, pseudo-spoiler, #oldbikesrule : )

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9/30/2023 1:59pm
Jakub_G wrote:

Yep, TRP rotors intense has been running for ages.

Interesting. Looks like they’ve been copying homework then

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9/30/2023 3:45pm

Can anyone shed light on why Greg stopped using Lyle as a Mechanic as it doesn’t of seemed to have stopped him getting flats and to be honest I’m pretty sure the Syndicate team have the most flat tires out of any team this season ? 
 

I know Maxxis will prob get blamed but it other teams use the same tires without any issues then it’s the wheels ? 

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9/30/2023 8:19pm
peecee wrote:
Can anyone shed light on why Greg stopped using Lyle as a Mechanic as it doesn’t of seemed to have stopped him getting flats and to...

Can anyone shed light on why Greg stopped using Lyle as a Mechanic as it doesn’t of seemed to have stopped him getting flats and to be honest I’m pretty sure the Syndicate team have the most flat tires out of any team this season ? 
 

I know Maxxis will prob get blamed but it other teams use the same tires without any issues then it’s the wheels ? 

Or rim/tire/pressure/force that is the issue.  Also they keep saying they are on prototype tires so that may not be everyone.

I know Jackson flatted today but who else has had issues on syndicate this season 

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9/30/2023 8:32pm
peecee wrote:
Can anyone shed light on why Greg stopped using Lyle as a Mechanic as it doesn’t of seemed to have stopped him getting flats and to...

Can anyone shed light on why Greg stopped using Lyle as a Mechanic as it doesn’t of seemed to have stopped him getting flats and to be honest I’m pretty sure the Syndicate team have the most flat tires out of any team this season ? 
 

I know Maxxis will prob get blamed but it other teams use the same tires without any issues then it’s the wheels ? 

Getting flats has a lot to do with the rim structure and lip profile. It maybe that an AL rim deflects and deforms more before pinching the tire then a carbon. I am assuming Santa Cruz is pretty pigeoned holed into running reserve rims where other teams may be able to shop around for a rim sponsor a bit more.

That being said, Richie was on Maxxis / DT and flatted, same with Neko.

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9/30/2023 11:54pm
mfoga wrote:
Or rim/tire/pressure/force that is the issue.  Also they keep saying they are on prototype tires so that may not be everyone. I know Jackson flatted today...

Or rim/tire/pressure/force that is the issue.  Also they keep saying they are on prototype tires so that may not be everyone.

I know Jackson flatted today but who else has had issues on syndicate this season 

Ehm, Greg had wheel/tire issues in more races than not?

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10/1/2023 12:01am
mfoga wrote:
Or rim/tire/pressure/force that is the issue.  Also they keep saying they are on prototype tires so that may not be everyone. I know Jackson flatted today...

Or rim/tire/pressure/force that is the issue.  Also they keep saying they are on prototype tires so that may not be everyone.

I know Jackson flatted today but who else has had issues on syndicate this season 

Jakub_G wrote:

Ehm, Greg had wheel/tire issues in more races than not?

I am wondering if reserve wis working on a new layup or shape that is creating more issues.... We know Greg is a "big" boy ou tthere and likes a stiffer ride... maybe rim is too stiff and therefore causing flats? because until now he has been the only issue... though Snowshoe is an issue for every tire and rim manufacturer.

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10/1/2023 4:08am
peecee wrote:
Can anyone shed light on why Greg stopped using Lyle as a Mechanic as it doesn’t of seemed to have stopped him getting flats and to...

Can anyone shed light on why Greg stopped using Lyle as a Mechanic as it doesn’t of seemed to have stopped him getting flats and to be honest I’m pretty sure the Syndicate team have the most flat tires out of any team this season ? 
 

I know Maxxis will prob get blamed but it other teams use the same tires without any issues then it’s the wheels ? 

I was wondering the same thing, is Lyle still on the syndicate?

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10/1/2023 4:56am

So Snowshoe came and gone and no Vital Pit Bits slideshow? First the UCI takes live coverage from us and now this...

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10/1/2023 5:00am
alidhojd wrote:

I was wondering the same thing, is Lyle still on the syndicate?

The gossip in this thread suggested that he wasn’t prepared for Fort William to be wet, so Greg sacked him.

He’s still with the team though as i spotted him in one of the dialled vids this week.

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10/1/2023 7:06am
mfoga wrote:
Or rim/tire/pressure/force that is the issue.  Also they keep saying they are on prototype tires so that may not be everyone. I know Jackson flatted today...

Or rim/tire/pressure/force that is the issue.  Also they keep saying they are on prototype tires so that may not be everyone.

I know Jackson flatted today but who else has had issues on syndicate this season 

Jakub_G wrote:

Ehm, Greg had wheel/tire issues in more races than not?

Besides Greg which I though was clear but I guess not.

 

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10/1/2023 7:25am
mfoga wrote:

Besides Greg which I though was clear but I guess not.

 

With all the issues Greg has had, I’m surprised they still don’t run inserts.

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I was talking to the local shop owner the other day, whose son races pro.  They started running Conti tires this year, and he said that while they love the grip and support, the first race they went to, the kid broke 3 rims.  They went to running inserts rear after that.  And related to all this, he said the new Maxxis DH casing is designed to be more like the Conti DH casing, with a supple extra full puncture resist layer from bead to bead.  No idea how accurate that is, but putting 2+2 together, maybe Maxxis' new casing trying to be more supple/less stiff coupled with Greg not liking inserts = more wheel failures?

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10/1/2023 10:27am
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I was talking to the local shop owner the other day, whose son races pro.  They started running Conti tires this year, and he said that...

I was talking to the local shop owner the other day, whose son races pro.  They started running Conti tires this year, and he said that while they love the grip and support, the first race they went to, the kid broke 3 rims.  They went to running inserts rear after that.  And related to all this, he said the new Maxxis DH casing is designed to be more like the Conti DH casing, with a supple extra full puncture resist layer from bead to bead.  No idea how accurate that is, but putting 2+2 together, maybe Maxxis' new casing trying to be more supple/less stiff coupled with Greg not liking inserts = more wheel failures?

And yet Conti racers in wc doesn't get any more punctures than anyone, nor wheel failure. So it was coincidence I guess.

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10/1/2023 10:49am
slimshady wrote:

So Snowshoe came and gone and no Vital Pit Bits slideshow? First the UCI takes live coverage from us and now this...

since there have been so many racers back-to-back, the normal pit bits get kind of repetitive, plus we had lawlor's pit bits video. we've focused on privateer life w/ jack rice at snowshoe. that feature will land monday or tuesday.

i have some audio about this that will go up soon too.

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10/1/2023 12:08pm
sspomer wrote:
since there have been so many racers back-to-back, the normal pit bits get kind of repetitive, plus we had lawlor's pit bits video. we've focused on...

since there have been so many racers back-to-back, the normal pit bits get kind of repetitive, plus we had lawlor's pit bits video. we've focused on privateer life w/ jack rice at snowshoe. that feature will land monday or tuesday.

i have some audio about this that will go up soon too.

Oh thats awesome! Look forward to it!

10/1/2023 1:42pm
AndehM wrote:
I was talking to the local shop owner the other day, whose son races pro.  They started running Conti tires this year, and he said that...

I was talking to the local shop owner the other day, whose son races pro.  They started running Conti tires this year, and he said that while they love the grip and support, the first race they went to, the kid broke 3 rims.  They went to running inserts rear after that.  And related to all this, he said the new Maxxis DH casing is designed to be more like the Conti DH casing, with a supple extra full puncture resist layer from bead to bead.  No idea how accurate that is, but putting 2+2 together, maybe Maxxis' new casing trying to be more supple/less stiff coupled with Greg not liking inserts = more wheel failures?

Jakub_G wrote:

And yet Conti racers in wc doesn't get any more punctures than anyone, nor wheel failure. So it was coincidence I guess.

The top 5 apart from dak was all on contis !! 

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10/1/2023 1:51pm
Jakub_G wrote:

And yet Conti racers in wc doesn't get any more punctures than anyone, nor wheel failure. So it was coincidence I guess.

Yeah, I wasn't trying to imply there was something wrong with Conti (I run them myself).  More that the Reserve rims were designed around old Maxxis DH & no inserts, so maybe changing the casing and not adjusting tire pressures/adding inserts is causing issues.  They have notes on what pressures they ran on all the tracks for various conditions, but I doubt they have very much data on a completely new tire casing.

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10/1/2023 3:02pm
chriskief wrote:

With all the issues Greg has had, I’m surprised they still don’t run inserts.

Greg could be cracking rims and it has nothing to do with tires, are we sure they are tire issues?

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