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There we go. This is going to become the de-facto DH fork in no time. 

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Primoz
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De-facto in what way?

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If EXT would offer “custom tuned to the rider” as standard for their forks like they do with all their shocks, then ya I’d say its got the potential to be up there with the best. 

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If EXT would offer “custom tuned to the rider” as standard for their forks like they do with all their shocks, then ya I’d say its...

If EXT would offer “custom tuned to the rider” as standard for their forks like they do with all their shocks, then ya I’d say its got the potential to be up there with the best. 

I think if you order through their dealers you can get a custom tune.

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If EXT would offer “custom tuned to the rider” as standard for their forks like they do with all their shocks, then ya I’d say its...

If EXT would offer “custom tuned to the rider” as standard for their forks like they do with all their shocks, then ya I’d say its got the potential to be up there with the best. 

BBaldwin wrote:

I think if you order through their dealers you can get a custom tune.

no they dont offer custom tuning for their forks YET... they have 3 standard tunes for both comp and rebound. same as everyone else basically.. 

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If EXT would offer “custom tuned to the rider” as standard for their forks like they do with all their shocks, then ya I’d say its...

If EXT would offer “custom tuned to the rider” as standard for their forks like they do with all their shocks, then ya I’d say its got the potential to be up there with the best. 

BBaldwin wrote:

I think if you order through their dealers you can get a custom tune.

no they dont offer custom tuning for their forks YET... they have 3 standard tunes for both comp and rebound. same as everyone else basically.. 

1 day a week of strength training for a few months will put 99% of riders further ahead than custom tuned suspension will

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1/29/2023 6:52pm

Gracey Hemstreet riding the upcoming BoXXer (from her Instagram)Screenshot 20230129 184947 Instagram 0

 

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FullSend wrote:

There we go. This is going to become the de-facto DH fork in no time. 

Unfortunately it's made for e-motos

1/29/2023 10:03pm
Gracey Hemstreet riding the upcoming BoXXer (from her Instagram)  

Gracey Hemstreet riding the upcoming BoXXer (from her Instagram)Screenshot 20230129 184947 Instagram 0

 

How do you all spot this stuff from clips like that?!?Blink

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Weird eyes seeing unimportant (in the grand scheme of things) details. 

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1/29/2023 11:43pm
New controls look like a dogs dinner though.

image-20230127152620-1New controls look like a dogs dinner though.

sharpy212 wrote:

Looks like a wing mirror off some bodged attempt of a homemade café racer! 

Any idea what the cable is that's wrapped around his handlebars and maybe going to that head unit.

1/29/2023 11:56pm

Any idea what the cable is that's wrapped around his handlebars and maybe going to that head unit.

Likely just a tether.

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SRAM acquired Hammerhead.. so it could be something new they are working on. the hand does look placed nicely to hide it away. Yeah like Steve was saying like just a breakaway tether to stop you loosing your computer in a crash or if the mount fails. 

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1/30/2023 2:32am Edited Date/Time 1/30/2023 2:35am

Jesse did Tag stages cycling though...

Don't see how he would run their power meters on a Sram crank on the other hand. Stages made their own carbon NDS crank and aluminium cranks weren't equipped with power meters as the shape of them is not suitable for a power meter. With the rumored holed crank coming it makes it even worse. I do suspect we could see the dub spindle power meter from Sram (Apex? Rival?) crossing over to MTB besides the spider based quark options, but that's still a first party solution, not a Stages product. 

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Stages recently sold a big interest in the company to Giant, fwiw.

Cycling Electronics is the dumbest market segment.   The only electronics I want in mtb is Alex Rankin pointing a VX80 with a fisheye at someone flying sideways.

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While being quite a big opponent of electronic shifting and electronic suspension (the bike should just work...) I would buy a DUB spindle power meter in a heartbeat for my MTB. Just to geek out and to see what kind of power I can achieve on the bike. If spider based power meters weren't limited to 32T chainrings (104 BCD...) and would fit a 30T, or the cassettes would increase to ~54T max (enabling me to run a 32T chainring) I'd buy one of those, something along the lines of a Sigeyi off AliExpress.

Do I need one? No. Do I want to try it out to geek over it? Heck yes. It is true though that a power meter running out of battery doesn't affect the riding experience in any measurable way compared to electronic shifting and suspension locking out though. 

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1/30/2023 12:29pm
hardbash wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kttyGm8MXuQ Vivid Air 2.0 coming

I think we knew this already. What remains to be seen is whether it’s anything more than a race day shock like the previous one was. 

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Reliability wise?

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hardbash wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kttyGm8MXuQ Vivid Air 2.0 coming

I think we knew this already. What remains to be seen is whether it’s anything more than a race day shock like the previous one was. 

Not sure I follow you. Pretty sure it was even an OEM shock at one point on the Santa Cruz nomad.99F96FF5-519D-4519-9070-DF084A365121.jpeg?VersionId=xm

 

1/30/2023 12:38pm
hardbash wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kttyGm8MXuQ Vivid Air 2.0 coming

I think we knew this already. What remains to be seen is whether it’s anything more than a race day shock like the previous one was. 

TannerVal wrote:
Not sure I follow you. Pretty sure it was even an OEM shock at one point on the Santa Cruz nomad.  

Not sure I follow you. Pretty sure it was even an OEM shock at one point on the Santa Cruz nomad.99F96FF5-519D-4519-9070-DF084A365121.jpeg?VersionId=xm

 

That's as may be but durability was fucking terrible.

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Speaking of (RS) shocks, looking at the specs of the Super Deluxe C1, there's this:

https://i.imgur.com/ju5qBal.png

Anybody seen what the 90 deg (also present in the B2 specs) and the 75 deg mount look like?

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Primoz wrote:
While being quite a big opponent of electronic shifting and electronic suspension (the bike should just work...) I would buy a DUB spindle power meter in...

While being quite a big opponent of electronic shifting and electronic suspension (the bike should just work...) I would buy a DUB spindle power meter in a heartbeat for my MTB. Just to geek out and to see what kind of power I can achieve on the bike. If spider based power meters weren't limited to 32T chainrings (104 BCD...) and would fit a 30T, or the cassettes would increase to ~54T max (enabling me to run a 32T chainring) I'd buy one of those, something along the lines of a Sigeyi off AliExpress.

Do I need one? No. Do I want to try it out to geek over it? Heck yes. It is true though that a power meter running out of battery doesn't affect the riding experience in any measurable way compared to electronic shifting and suspension locking out though. 

Renthal's 1XR comes in a 104/30t option 

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Here I go derailing the thread again... Even went to DMs to avoid that. 

Race face also has one, but at 30T there needs to be an offset to fit the chain past the spider tabs. That offset could create some sideloading in the spider, possibly causing erroneous measurements of power (as the power meter measures flex of the system). 

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Hey Primoz- you could just stand up more when you pedal and push a harder gear...

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TimBud wrote:

Renthal's 1XR comes in a 104/30t option 

Fyi, for the 104BCD holdouts out there who want to get into super granny gear mode:

https://usamadeco.com/products/104-26t-st-pro-integrated-guard-mountain-chainring-new?_pos=2&_sid=100024076&_ss=r

26T and bashguard on 104BCD.

I ran this on Saint cranks with 12sp SLX.  26/51 is ludicrous gearing, but damn you could climb anything!

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TimBud wrote:

Renthal's 1XR comes in a 104/30t option 

MTBrent wrote:
Fyi, for the 104BCD holdouts out there who want to get into super granny gear mode: https://usamadeco.com/products/104-26t-st-pro-integrated-guard-mountain-chainring-new?_pos=2&_sid=100024076&_ss=r 26T and bashguard on 104BCD. I ran this on...

Fyi, for the 104BCD holdouts out there who want to get into super granny gear mode:

https://usamadeco.com/products/104-26t-st-pro-integrated-guard-mountain-chainring-new?_pos=2&_sid=100024076&_ss=r

26T and bashguard on 104BCD.

I ran this on Saint cranks with 12sp SLX.  26/51 is ludicrous gearing, but damn you could climb anything!

With that gearing at a snails pace. 

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1/30/2023 4:05pm

sram-crank

Another spy shot of the new SRAM drivetrain from the Queenstown Bike Fest. The cranks and bash guard look pretty sweet. 

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 Neko on a proto Santa Cruz now? 

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