Saint holds the record for a product series, although I'll add there are certain individual products that have been in the Shimano catalog forever, like the...
Saint holds the record for a product series, although I'll add there are certain individual products that have been in the Shimano catalog forever, like the PD-M520 non-series pedals (2003?) and PD-M647 DX pedals (2006?) and the Dura Ace downtube shifters (Civil War?).
As someone who still used dura ace downtube shifters, civil war tech is still ok
Saint holds the record for a product series, although I'll add there are certain individual products that have been in the Shimano catalog forever, like the...
Saint holds the record for a product series, although I'll add there are certain individual products that have been in the Shimano catalog forever, like the PD-M520 non-series pedals (2003?) and PD-M647 DX pedals (2006?) and the Dura Ace downtube shifters (Civil War?).
DXR was launched for the inaugural bmx at the olympics in 2008 and Dura Ace 7710 (track) is older than the hills (1996).
Yeah, proto frames aleays look good, until production frames come out, bring back the glory days of Intense m1 etc…..
all their carbon frames are just...
Yeah, proto frames aleays look good, until production frames come out, bring back the glory days of Intense m1 etc…..
all their carbon frames are just boring with horrible color options
This frame does look like ass but at least it’s aluminium. If they’ve found a way to make aluminium frames financially viable again I’d say that’s a good thing.
I for one am super excited to see how and where their new downhill frames are made when they hit the market.
Saint holds the record for a product series, although I'll add there are certain individual products that have been in the Shimano catalog forever, like the...
Saint holds the record for a product series, although I'll add there are certain individual products that have been in the Shimano catalog forever, like the PD-M520 non-series pedals (2003?) and PD-M647 DX pedals (2006?) and the Dura Ace downtube shifters (Civil War?).
no it doesn't, actually. shimano dura-ace track gourp 7710 debuted in 1996 and has not had a single update since. there's no reason to replace it. just like saint works, best brakes in their line-up, ain't broke, don't fix it. sram is the reason things come out so fast now, they don't wait until a product is fully ready, they just release it, and update every 2 years. shimano just doesn't do that, they are a bit because of the competition, but i guaranty shimano would still have us on 11 speed and front derailleurs is sram didn't shake things up in 2013
no it doesn't, actually. shimano dura-ace track gourp 7710 debuted in 1996 and has not had a single update since. there's no reason to replace it...
no it doesn't, actually. shimano dura-ace track gourp 7710 debuted in 1996 and has not had a single update since. there's no reason to replace it. just like saint works, best brakes in their line-up, ain't broke, don't fix it. sram is the reason things come out so fast now, they don't wait until a product is fully ready, they just release it, and update every 2 years. shimano just doesn't do that, they are a bit because of the competition, but i guaranty shimano would still have us on 11 speed and front derailleurs is sram didn't shake things up in 2013
It’s not the whole range going to mineral oil is it? I thought it was just one or two specific non race models?
Talked with a sram guy couple months ago about this. He said there are „performance oriented“ (more adjustments) mineral options coming. But the highest offerings will stay DOT
But the DB8 Caliper is actually the same as the Code Rsc, except the fluid and different design outside.
Less refined too.
I sincerely hope they stay on DOT fluid as long as the brakes are as good as they are. I don't want to...
Less refined too.
I sincerely hope they stay on DOT fluid as long as the brakes are as good as they are. I don't want to deal with some proprietary baby oil fluid...
But it's the best, it keeps my skin soft after a day of bleeds..
The DB8's lever feel is excellent but I've yet to have any real world feed back if them being ridden hard on long descents. I'm a Shimano brakes guy but I do enjoy a properly set up pair of codes from time to time.
shouldn’t the switch to mineral oil not be enough newness?
I haven’t even thought of that. I didn’t really pay attention to see if there was a “DOT 5.1” label. It wouldn’t surprise me too much if that’s a coming change.
But it's the best, it keeps my skin soft after a day of bleeds..
The DB8's lever feel is excellent but I've yet to have any...
But it's the best, it keeps my skin soft after a day of bleeds..
The DB8's lever feel is excellent but I've yet to have any real world feed back if them being ridden hard on long descents. I'm a Shimano brakes guy but I do enjoy a properly set up pair of codes from time to time.
Rode a pair in Costa Rica on a Trek Rail, was surprised by how much they felt exactly like my Code brakes, as far as I was concerned they were indistinguishable from them.
it was my first time on an electric mountain moped as well, had a great ol time. The entry level suspension on that Rail was really impressive feeling. Bike was brand new, I was the first to get it dirty.
All things equal, if your DOT or (not walgreens brand) mineral oil is clean and new and well bled, 2 brakes of the same design should perform just about identically.
DOT just holds up almost infinitely better to heat, both long and short term.
I do prefer Shimano brakes. I do with they were DOT though.
Oil is not oil, and DOT is not DOT. Bionol vegetable oil has a higher boiling temperature and lower viscosity than most DOT 5.1. I use it for all of my brakes.
And: has any one of you actually boiled your brake fluid?
But it's the best, it keeps my skin soft after a day of bleeds..
The DB8's lever feel is excellent but I've yet to have any...
But it's the best, it keeps my skin soft after a day of bleeds..
The DB8's lever feel is excellent but I've yet to have any real world feed back if them being ridden hard on long descents. I'm a Shimano brakes guy but I do enjoy a properly set up pair of codes from time to time.
Rode a pair in Costa Rica on a Trek Rail, was surprised by how much they felt exactly like my Code brakes, as far as I...
Rode a pair in Costa Rica on a Trek Rail, was surprised by how much they felt exactly like my Code brakes, as far as I was concerned they were indistinguishable from them.
it was my first time on an electric mountain moped as well, had a great ol time. The entry level suspension on that Rail was really impressive feeling. Bike was brand new, I was the first to get it dirty.
You Sir experienced the benefit of high sprung mass. Moped are great at making any suspension feel appropriate, even stuff that would feel like garbage on a Mtb. But yeah, sprung/unsprung mass ratio doesn't matter apparently lol.
Oil is not oil, and DOT is not DOT. Bionol vegetable oil has a higher boiling temperature and lower viscosity than most DOT 5.1. I use...
Oil is not oil, and DOT is not DOT. Bionol vegetable oil has a higher boiling temperature and lower viscosity than most DOT 5.1. I use it for all of my brakes.
And: has any one of you actually boiled your brake fluid?
We are all the best riders you can find on this globe, just a bit shy to go out and dominated world cup racing, but we do indeed boil our brake fluid every morning on our warm up ride before breakfast!
As someone who still used dura ace downtube shifters, civil war tech is still ok
DXR was launched for the inaugural bmx at the olympics in 2008 and Dura Ace 7710 (track) is older than the hills (1996).
https://bikerumor.com/sram-suspension-fork-automatic-venting-system/
I'm not buying this unless they can engineer the automatic pressure release valves to sound like farts.
Guys/girls does anyone have any info on the prototype sram brakes we saw at the WC races? Any ideas on when we may officially see them ?
oh man that seat tube junction/ shock mount area looks ass
color scheme and logo design is unfortunate as well but that is to be expected by intense by now
Yeah, proto frames aleays look good, until production frames come out, bring back the glory days of Intense m1 etc…..
all their carbon frames are just boring with horrible color options
Tazer shock looks like it has a very short stroke or is it just an illusion?
Supposedly the new drivetrain is getting released around March so I'd expect them to be part of that...
That’s what I’ve heard as well. although I think it’s just new levers.
This frame does look like ass but at least it’s aluminium. If they’ve found a way to make aluminium frames financially viable again I’d say that’s a good thing.
I for one am super excited to see how and where their new downhill frames are made when they hit the market.
So the ugly 'to the bar reservoir' update to the Codes? With the new calipers following later?
Is it possible the new calipers will also be paired to new levers?
As for the Tazer shock, it's trunnion, that might make it look shorter than it actually is.
no it doesn't, actually. shimano dura-ace track gourp 7710 debuted in 1996 and has not had a single update since. there's no reason to replace it. just like saint works, best brakes in their line-up, ain't broke, don't fix it. sram is the reason things come out so fast now, they don't wait until a product is fully ready, they just release it, and update every 2 years. shimano just doesn't do that, they are a bit because of the competition, but i guaranty shimano would still have us on 11 speed and front derailleurs is sram didn't shake things up in 2013
Could'nt have said it better myself ;o)
Are there any recent photos of the Demo that Finn Iles has been riding?
Bruni has been testing different upper links it looks like
From what I have seen the new code calipers are not going to be in this new launch. They will probably come in a year or so.
I can’t say for sure but the new code ultimates and rsc’s I’ve seen had the old calipers with just new levers.
shouldn’t the switch to mineral oil not be enough newness?
It’s not the whole range going to mineral oil is it? I thought it was just one or two specific non race models?
Talked with a sram guy couple months ago about this. He said there are „performance oriented“ (more adjustments) mineral options coming. But the highest offerings will stay DOT
But the DB8 Caliper is actually the same as the Code Rsc, except the fluid and different design outside.
Less refined too.
I sincerely hope they stay on DOT fluid as long as the brakes are as good as they are. I don't want to deal with some proprietary baby oil fluid...
But it's the best, it keeps my skin soft after a day of bleeds..
The DB8's lever feel is excellent but I've yet to have any real world feed back if them being ridden hard on long descents. I'm a Shimano brakes guy but I do enjoy a properly set up pair of codes from time to time.
mondraker dealer camp 2 years ago the info was they pulling an apple and move everything over to mineral oil till 2024
I haven’t even thought of that. I didn’t really pay attention to see if there was a “DOT 5.1” label. It wouldn’t surprise me too much if that’s a coming change.
Rode a pair in Costa Rica on a Trek Rail, was surprised by how much they felt exactly like my Code brakes, as far as I was concerned they were indistinguishable from them.
it was my first time on an electric mountain moped as well, had a great ol time. The entry level suspension on that Rail was really impressive feeling. Bike was brand new, I was the first to get it dirty.
All things equal, if your DOT or (not walgreens brand) mineral oil is clean and new and well bled, 2 brakes of the same design should perform just about identically.
DOT just holds up almost infinitely better to heat, both long and short term.
I do prefer Shimano brakes. I do with they were DOT though.
Oil is not oil, and DOT is not DOT. Bionol vegetable oil has a higher boiling temperature and lower viscosity than most DOT 5.1. I use it for all of my brakes.
And: has any one of you actually boiled your brake fluid?
You Sir experienced the benefit of high sprung mass. Moped are great at making any suspension feel appropriate, even stuff that would feel like garbage on a Mtb. But yeah, sprung/unsprung mass ratio doesn't matter apparently lol.
We are all the best riders you can find on this globe, just a bit shy to go out and dominated world cup racing, but we do indeed boil our brake fluid every morning on our warm up ride before breakfast!
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