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Zuestman 8/17/2021 8:09am
8/17/2021 8:09am
willsmooth18 wrote:
It accepts 30mm spindles with good-sized bearings.
So... not really. T47 uses the same bearings as the rest non-BB86/92 30mm systems. A standard BB30 bearing.

Manufacturing tolerances havent changed. The BIG difference is that it is a threaded 47mm ID frame. They threaded the 46mm PF30 shell to 47mm so you have a threaded frame at 68 or 73mm wide. (Threaded 47mm) So, same bearings, same tolerances for what is being done, different design, and threaded that everyone wants.
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willsmooth18 8/17/2021 8:35am
8/17/2021 8:35am
Zuestman wrote:
So... not really. T47 uses the same bearings as the rest non-BB86/92 30mm systems. A standard BB30 bearing. Manufacturing tolerances havent changed. The BIG difference is...
So... not really. T47 uses the same bearings as the rest non-BB86/92 30mm systems. A standard BB30 bearing.

Manufacturing tolerances havent changed. The BIG difference is that it is a threaded 47mm ID frame. They threaded the 46mm PF30 shell to 47mm so you have a threaded frame at 68 or 73mm wide. (Threaded 47mm) So, same bearings, same tolerances for what is being done, different design, and threaded that everyone wants.
Same bearings as BB30/PF30, but in the case of 30mm spindles on BSA68/73 (Rotor for example), I guess not.
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Primoz 8/17/2021 9:36am
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Sram has a 29 mm spindle on DUB, so basically same difference there - tiny bearing all round.
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Zuestman 8/17/2021 9:47am
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Primoz wrote:
Sram has a 29 mm spindle on DUB, so basically same difference there - tiny bearing all round.
The Dub bearing is actually the same BB30 bearing...with a plastic sleeve that clips inside it like Shimano Hollowtech BB's. Not a different bearing.
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Mat_Slow_Rider 8/17/2021 11:20am
8/17/2021 11:20am
DonutMTB wrote:
New top fuel dropping in a few months. frame storage on carbon and alu frames. 66° head angle, 435mm chainstays, knock block 2.0 [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/08/16/11313/s1200_topfuel7_1.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/08/16/11314/s1200_SmartSelect_20210816_181044_Instagram.jpg[/img] edit...
New top fuel dropping in a few months.
frame storage on carbon and alu frames.
66° head angle, 435mm chainstays, knock block 2.0


edit: also up +5mm rear travel



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Fantaman 8/17/2021 2:11pm
8/17/2021 2:11pm
4 Piston brakes on a agressive XC bike is always good to have.
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bulletbass man 8/17/2021 6:40pm
8/17/2021 6:40pm
Still waiting for trek to update their suspension layout to allow for better standover numbers.

Now that I’m used to riding with my seat under my ass instead of in my chest I can’t switch back. But my lbs is trek and i have nothing but good things to say about my experience owning treks.
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jonkranked 8/18/2021 5:19am
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bulletbass man wrote:
Still waiting for trek to update their suspension layout to allow for better standover numbers. Now that I’m used to riding with my seat under my...
Still waiting for trek to update their suspension layout to allow for better standover numbers.

Now that I’m used to riding with my seat under my ass instead of in my chest I can’t switch back. But my lbs is trek and i have nothing but good things to say about my experience owning treks.
hey Tom check out Twisted Cog in Pheonixville. they are my go-to shop, they carry giant, spesh, & Rocky Mountain.
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bulletbass man 8/18/2021 9:04am
8/18/2021 9:04am
bulletbass man wrote:
Still waiting for trek to update their suspension layout to allow for better standover numbers. Now that I’m used to riding with my seat under my...
Still waiting for trek to update their suspension layout to allow for better standover numbers.

Now that I’m used to riding with my seat under my ass instead of in my chest I can’t switch back. But my lbs is trek and i have nothing but good things to say about my experience owning treks.
jonkranked wrote:
hey Tom check out Twisted Cog in Pheonixville. they are my go-to shop, they carry giant, spesh, & Rocky Mountain.
Got my mom’s tempt there!
bikeboardorblade 8/18/2021 9:35am
8/18/2021 9:35am
AXS DH perhaps?
Pulled from the Maribor highlight video, on Loris's bike.
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noeserdalt 8/18/2021 11:38am
8/18/2021 11:38am
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[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/08/12/11293/s1200_Captura_de_Pantalla_2021_08_13_a_la_s_00.55.32.jpg[/img]

It's out and looks like only change is the frame color




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Tanner_Carl 8/18/2021 12:30pm
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bikeboardorblade wrote:
AXS DH perhaps? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/08/18/11333/s1200_AXS_DH.jpg[/img] Pulled from the Maribor highlight video, on Loris's bike.
AXS DH perhaps?
Pulled from the Maribor highlight video, on Loris's bike.
Appears to be a cable going to and from derailleur on the "Winning Bike - Loris Vergier's Trek Session at Maribor" post

If I had to guess that's a shirtless Loris warming up on a stationary trainer trail bike equipped with AXS.
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CaptainMetaSx 8/19/2021 12:28am
8/19/2021 12:28am
GUILLO wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/08/12/11293/s1200_Captura_de_Pantalla_2021_08_13_a_la_s_00.55.32.jpg[/img]

noeserdalt wrote:
It's out and looks like only change is the frame color [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/08/18/11334/s1200_asdasdf_m.jpg[/img]
It's out and looks like only change is the frame color




The Foxy Carbon is not out yet if I'm not mistaken, your picture is for the Foxy and Foxy R with the AL frame. Maybe they have a new Carbon frame but still use the "old" AL frame for lower spec bikes.
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noeserdalt 8/19/2021 1:41pm
8/19/2021 1:41pm
Good point
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taifi 8/20/2021 5:38am
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MunteanuHill wrote:
Jacy , Sam Hill's mechanic posting a photo with a very interesting asymmetrical Michelin prototype tyre .[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/08/20/11336/s1200_Screenshot_20210820_112544.jpg[/img] https://www.instagram.com/p/CSw76fKHyR9/?utm_medium=copy_link
Jacy , Sam Hill's mechanic posting a photo with a very interesting asymmetrical Michelin prototype tyre . https://www.instagram.com/p/CSw76fKHyR9/?utm_medium=copy_link
And the new super deluxe…
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Edthorne 8/20/2021 8:56am
8/20/2021 8:56am Edited Date/Time 8/20/2021 9:52am
MunteanuHill wrote:
Jacy , Sam Hill's mechanic posting a photo with a very interesting asymmetrical Michelin prototype tyre .[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/08/20/11336/s1200_Screenshot_20210820_112544.jpg[/img] https://www.instagram.com/p/CSw76fKHyR9/?utm_medium=copy_link
Jacy , Sam Hill's mechanic posting a photo with a very interesting asymmetrical Michelin prototype tyre . https://www.instagram.com/p/CSw76fKHyR9/?utm_medium=copy_link
Interesting. It looks to be fairly similar in terms of the lug shaping to the DH22, maybe a bit taller. Maybe something to slot in between the DH22 and the DH MUD? Sort of like what the Shorty is to the Wetscream in the Maxxis line.
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pablo_b 8/20/2021 11:27am
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Do you Hope connoisseurs recognize Adam Braytons brakes??(From the european cup preview in spicak) Maybe new mtb hope brakes?
Sonofbovril2 8/20/2021 1:29pm
8/20/2021 1:29pm
pablo_b wrote:
Do you Hope connoisseurs recognize Adam Braytons brakes??(From the european cup preview in spicak) Maybe new mtb hope brakes?
I know they have a slick looking road/gravel flat mount brake out and that high pivot frame proto

Something stronger than the V4 would interest me though… I think Trickstuff has been stealing a lot of the brake attention that Hope used to get.
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peecee 8/20/2021 4:29pm
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pablo_b wrote:
Do you Hope connoisseurs recognize Adam Braytons brakes??(From the european cup preview in spicak) Maybe new mtb hope brakes?

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jsray 8/20/2021 8:12pm
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What’s going on with this HSC dial?
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AndehM 8/20/2021 8:14pm
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jsray wrote:
What’s going on with this HSC dial? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/08/20/11339/s1200_B61C9D0E_2BC5_4513_AFBE_11239DF5D8AD.jpg[/img]
What’s going on with this HSC dial?
Looks like a "Performance" version, with just LSC adjust, no HSC.
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Lacanuck24 8/20/2021 11:15pm
8/20/2021 11:15pm
pablo_b wrote:
Do you Hope connoisseurs recognize Adam Braytons brakes??(From the european cup preview in spicak) Maybe new mtb hope brakes?
peecee wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/08/20/11337/s1200_Screen_Shot_2021_08_21_at_9.27.11_am.jpg[/img]

Looks like a new lever design. The clamp is hinged and the reservoir camp is much more rectangular than the Tech3.

Nice! Something new is definitely cooking. Brayton was running some updated prototypes of the Mono6 Ti a few years ago.

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Noeserd 8/21/2021 4:59am
8/21/2021 4:59am Edited Date/Time 8/21/2021 5:00am
jsray wrote:
What’s going on with this HSC dial? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/08/20/11339/s1200_B61C9D0E_2BC5_4513_AFBE_11239DF5D8AD.jpg[/img]
What’s going on with this HSC dial?
I believe it's the (maybe new) "performance" model for the dhx2

X2 had that model from the launch



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krabo83 8/21/2021 7:34am
8/21/2021 7:34am
according to enduro-mtb the new tracer has 167mm travel in the rear.
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pablo_b 8/22/2021 8:28am
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To the Norco insiders, how likely is that something like the new Range gets released as the new DH bike? I've started researching about Norco and I quite like their bikes. What puts me off the Aurum HSP is the crazy progression... I've seen somewhere that its like 60%. Seems a bit too much.
Cheers
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Primoz 8/22/2021 9:09am
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Might be a consequence (or a necessity) because of the high pivot?
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pablo_b 8/22/2021 9:24am
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Primoz wrote:
Might be a consequence (or a necessity) because of the high pivot?
Not really since Commencals are pretty linear. I dont know the exact figure but around 20%? I spoke with Commencal themselves and they didnt want to tell me the exact number but they described the Supreme as a "pretty linear bike"
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