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50percentsure 11/27/2020 11:44pm
11/27/2020 11:44pm Edited Date/Time 11/27/2020 11:54pm
Verbl Kint wrote:
With more and more powerful motors getting into ebikes, what's going to stop idiots from going uphill on gravity trails?
Around here it seems the only trail they are interested in climbing is the downhill trail. 🤦‍♂️

Think you've got e-bike problems now, wait till the electric SurRon motorcycle crowd shows up. 💩







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Primoz 11/28/2020 2:14am
11/28/2020 2:14am Edited Date/Time 11/28/2020 2:15am
They don't need them to be electric around here. The more it barks and flings dirt around the better. You wouldn't believe the places and the gradients they get up to with dirt bikes... And then a few hundred meters from the last dirt bike track you spook a group of Chamois when you go there by foot... -_-
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nskerb 11/28/2020 9:35pm
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Verbl Kint wrote:
With more and more powerful motors getting into ebikes, what's going to stop idiots from going uphill on gravity trails?
50percentsure wrote:
Around here it seems the only trail they are interested in climbing is the downhill trail. 🤦‍♂️ Think you've got e-bike problems now, wait till the...
Around here it seems the only trail they are interested in climbing is the downhill trail. 🤦‍♂️

Think you've got e-bike problems now, wait till the electric SurRon motorcycle crowd shows up. 💩







There are a few in post canyon OR. They fucking suck
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mitch160 11/29/2020 6:06pm
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Leo Molloy wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2020/11/25/10112/s1200_new.jpg[/img] looks a lot more "longer, lower slacker" than the last one.


looks a lot more "longer, lower slacker" than the last one.
new spectral is coming out December 1st
tombola33 12/1/2020 12:42am
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Giga today I believe
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EugenM 12/1/2020 12:57am
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tombola33 wrote:
Giga today I believe
They've changed the date...again?(should have been 9th of Dec)
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Primoz 12/1/2020 1:41am
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Meh, Inline only on the 'RS' modes and FOX only for piggyback models. Why even bother with inline shocks?? And carbon only. And despite claims of a steeper geometry on the RS models, the geometry sheet is the same for both.

Weird specsheet between the models if I'm honest. OneUp droppers on the RS models though.
hamncheez2003 12/1/2020 6:01am
12/1/2020 6:01am
Primoz wrote:
Meh, Inline only on the 'RS' modes and FOX only for piggyback models. Why even bother with inline shocks?? And carbon only. And despite claims of...
Meh, Inline only on the 'RS' modes and FOX only for piggyback models. Why even bother with inline shocks?? And carbon only. And despite claims of a steeper geometry on the RS models, the geometry sheet is the same for both.

Weird specsheet between the models if I'm honest. OneUp droppers on the RS models though.
I will say, the Cane Creek IL shreds.....
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Eoin 12/1/2020 7:02am
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shreda wrote:
New Spectral 29 is out!

https://www.canyon.com/de-de/mountain-bikes/trail-bikes/spectral/spectr…
raozaki wrote:
Hope they also rework their emtb models with similar geo numbers.
Yeah, Barel has been spotted using an EP8 equipped canyon e-bike, hopefully a mullet with similar geo to today's spectral which would put it pretty high up on the list of e-bikes to consider. That being said, you would want a decent price which Canyon (and YT/Commencal for the matter) seem to be moving away from. I guess if you sell out of all your stock, why bother selling them "cheap". Next year's Spectral AL 29 should be pretty mint though.
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hamncheez2003 12/1/2020 9:12am
12/1/2020 9:12am
shreda wrote:
New Spectral 29 is out!

https://www.canyon.com/de-de/mountain-bikes/trail-bikes/spectral/spectr…
raozaki wrote:
Hope they also rework their emtb models with similar geo numbers.
Eoin wrote:
Yeah, Barel has been spotted using an EP8 equipped canyon e-bike, hopefully a mullet with similar geo to today's spectral which would put it pretty high...
Yeah, Barel has been spotted using an EP8 equipped canyon e-bike, hopefully a mullet with similar geo to today's spectral which would put it pretty high up on the list of e-bikes to consider. That being said, you would want a decent price which Canyon (and YT/Commencal for the matter) seem to be moving away from. I guess if you sell out of all your stock, why bother selling them "cheap". Next year's Spectral AL 29 should be pretty mint though.
The new Marin ebike has you covered on all fronts: Modern Geo, mullet, decent pricing.
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sspomer 12/1/2020 9:37am
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Primoz wrote:
Meh, Inline only on the 'RS' modes and FOX only for piggyback models. Why even bother with inline shocks?? And carbon only. And despite claims of...
Meh, Inline only on the 'RS' modes and FOX only for piggyback models. Why even bother with inline shocks?? And carbon only. And despite claims of a steeper geometry on the RS models, the geometry sheet is the same for both.

Weird specsheet between the models if I'm honest. OneUp droppers on the RS models though.
the USA Canyon Spectral CF7 gets a super deluxe and 160 lyrik for 3699. all USA bikes have 160 forks...that was an email update we got a few hours before embargo lift. for whatever reason, europe has some models with 150 Pikes and deluxe shocks only but europe gets an LTD version w/ 160 fork, XTR and carbon wheels at 6,000euro. definitely feels random enough.
our first ride review (bike showed up 3 days ago).
https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/Bikes,3/Canyon/Spectral-29-CF-8,…

and @hamncheez, marin's e-bike does look rad
https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/Marins-New-E-Bike-Offers-a-…
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Primoz 12/1/2020 10:37am
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Could these specsheets be related to component shortages?
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sspomer 12/1/2020 10:54am
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Primoz wrote:
Could these specsheets be related to component shortages?
i'm curious too, but the line we were given was that USA wanted 160 forks on all bikes from the get-go, but it prob wasn't going to happen. then, at the 12th hour, it did happen. someone on youtube comment "europe got robbed" - haha, so funny and seems kinda true.
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Primoz 12/1/2020 11:12pm
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https://nukeproof.com/blogs/news/mega-2021

Looks like the V4 Mega is the bike to have in this corona times, it has higher levels of Anti-Squad, should be perfect for social distancing.


(Do I need to point out the fact that the axis labels of the chart are not legible and that makes the chart more or less useless?)
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spoon_ 12/2/2020 1:01am
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RS inline shocks are fine, dunno what all the fuss is about. Can take a megneg, not horrible damping.
Unless you're doing big descents of course.
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Eoin 12/2/2020 2:33am
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Depends where you live I guess, my experience with the only 2 inline shocks that came stock on my bikes in 2012 and 2016 resulted in completed failure of the shock during enduro racing in the alps. Replaced with piggy back versions and never an issue with those. Wouldn't go near one again.
hamncheez2003 12/2/2020 10:25am
12/2/2020 10:25am
spoon_ wrote:
RS inline shocks are fine, dunno what all the fuss is about. Can take a megneg, not horrible damping.
Unless you're doing big descents of course.
Their piggyback shocks are trash, so I imagine their inline ones are even worse
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Primoz 12/2/2020 11:41am
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Why trash?

A bike with 150 mm travel, enabling you some rowdiness, is, in my opinion, a bike that deserves a piggyback shock. In general. I can imagine there are lots of locations where they are not as needed, but then you should question the choice of said bike.

But I'm weird, I'd put a piggyback shock on something with ~130 mm or maybe even less travel. Because why not Smile
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spoon_ wrote:
RS inline shocks are fine, dunno what all the fuss is about. Can take a megneg, not horrible damping.
Unless you're doing big descents of course.
hamncheez2003 wrote:
Their piggyback shocks are trash, so I imagine their inline ones are even worse
Having used many inline and piggyback shocks from both fox and RS, my X2 was the only shock to fail while riding. Your sample size is small.
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Whattheheel 12/2/2020 1:31pm
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I want to take this fine ass whip for a ride right now!!! Drool!!
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Primoz 12/2/2020 1:39pm
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Geezus, this looks interesting as hell!! (Geometry wise, the spec sheets available are very meh, but the prices are low... They just need an 'RS' model Smile )
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That paint job is terrible. The prototype one the guys at enduro-mtb got looks a lot better:

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Sonofbovril2 12/2/2020 2:00pm
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29 wrote:
That paint job is terrible. The prototype one the guys at enduro-mtb got looks a lot better: [img]https://s14761.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Ghost-Rioit-enduro-bike-2021-review-test34.jpg[/img]
That paint job is terrible. The prototype one the guys at enduro-mtb got looks a lot better:

Interesting choice of rear damper there...
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nollak 12/2/2020 10:48pm
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Sonofbovril2 wrote:
Interesting choice of rear damper there...
Was thinking the same.

But I must admit those are the first Ghost bikes in a long time that I would buy.
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Joe Berg 12/3/2020 1:11am
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Whattheheel wrote:
[img]https://bikerumor-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/2021-Ghost-Riot-alloy-mountain-bikes_all-new-aluminum-enduro-all-mountain-trail-MTB-platform_Riot-EN-Full-Party.jpg[/img] I want to take this fine ass whip for a ride right now!!! Drool!!


I want to take this fine ass whip for a ride right now!!! Drool!!
Funny, the paintjob looks like they tried to combine 2 old trek scratch paintjobs and fucked up badly
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ufka_pen15 12/3/2020 1:35am
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Whattheheel wrote:
[img]https://bikerumor-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/2021-Ghost-Riot-alloy-mountain-bikes_all-new-aluminum-enduro-all-mountain-trail-MTB-platform_Riot-EN-Full-Party.jpg[/img] I want to take this fine ass whip for a ride right now!!! Drool!!


I want to take this fine ass whip for a ride right now!!! Drool!!
Joe Berg wrote:
Funny, the paintjob looks like they tried to combine 2 old trek scratch paintjobs and fucked up badly
i knew it somehow looked familiar:

gonna be interesting once lapierre enters the chat
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