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Its similar to Neko winning Sea Otter on 32 inch. Neko also used to be a top 10 contender but he knows he's not able to ride at that level anymore. The thing is also those riders know they only can keep their careers/business flourishing if they get attention via social media and tinkering like that will get them attention...
How tall are you? Is the reach and chainstay length measured with the modifications or the stock frame measurements? I tried a bike with a similar reach and 465 mm chainstays at 1,80 m/5 10 and it felt weird. Maybe also because it was a heavy full power E-Bike. The old Bosch ebikes often had very long chainstays.

tabletop84 Added a reply to E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

5/14/2026 1:41am
180 mm suspension feels like overkill on most trails on an E-Bike because with the added weight it will just feel dead on mellower trails. But I think it's relative to rider weight/strength and skill plus obviously terrain. Same as motor power. 160-170 mm is where the Sweetspot is in my opinion if you want to ride natural trails mostly...
How do you measure handlebar height? At the end of the grips? It seems low as in almost at the same height with a 35 mm bar. I tried shorter stems and different bar heights but maybe it didn't work for me because my bike has only 440 mm chain stays in S4. I also tried really long chain stays...

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5/13/2026 7:40am
The biggest advantage of a turned motor is the low center of gravity and potentially low weight while still having a quickly removable battery. Additionally you can also skip the range extender while keeping the bottle holder and introduce different length batteries in the frame. With smaller motors like the Avinox this also won't look that ugly or if the...
Yeah, idk why a top 20 is any indicator if this works or not. I tried high rise bars and it just led to me loosing front wheel grip and not having trust in the front wheel not washing out. But I'm just riding very conservative to avoid crashes so it's really hard to say if the new tech with...

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4/21/2026 2:11am
Sea Otter Hot Takes with @TEAMROBOT 🤘
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thegromit Liked a reply to forum topic E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

4/18/2026 10:40am
If I was looking for a bike I wouldn't let it not being an avinox motor be the deciding factor. Buy a bike from whatever shop you like, these are going to break, have errors and software bugs Buy something with the Geo/Travel you want for the riding style you like, this will mean more than the motor Really think about what you want do you want power for short rides or range for longer adventure rides. I still think the Bosch system balance this ratio the best. After riding the m2 system I am not immediately thinking oh I...
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tabletop84 Added a reply to E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

4/16/2026 2:31am
It's very noticeable in Handling especially the higher up the weight is placed. Levo gets noticeable more sluggish if you swap the 500 for the 700 battery. The weights seem also to be stagnating thanks to the batteries getting bigger. As a lighter rider I don't need the additional power. I would love to have a lighter E-Bike tho with...

brash Liked a reply to forum topic E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

4/16/2026 2:27am
I bought one of these in 2018 for $6000 AUD ($4275) the spec was ridiculous, fox factory front and back, shimano di2, saint brakes etc with double down tyres it still only weighed 22kg. Sure it was ugly as sin, but chucking a 29 inch front wheel on that bike it was amazing. so 8 years later, we are catching up at triple the cost. ~22kg. The only difference is peak power and 300wH more battery? yes, it was ugly as sin. But the ability to swap a battery in 10 seconds was nice.
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Suns_PSD Liked a reply to forum topic E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

4/16/2026 2:27am
I've never felt the difference of a battery swap back-to-back but lots of people have stated this, even swapping the battery in the same bike, so I'm going to presume that it's quite true. This is another Con against the high-power motors, as they require so much weight up high to power these darn motors.
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Ob917 Liked a reply to forum topic E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

4/16/2026 2:26am
Totally agree. Over 50lbs is too much. I don’t care how fast you can easily cruise up a fire road. I just wish there were more mid power options that have more DH geo and suspension. . Just my taste tho I’m almost forced to buy a DJI bike and use a small battery on eco mode. Rather not use a DJI motor.
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LemonadeMoney Liked a reply to forum topic E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

4/14/2026 1:52am
I could only find a claimed 44lb for the PX, but a real world 48lb?
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Ob917 Liked a reply to forum topic E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

4/14/2026 1:51am
It seems it’s mostly just battery size affecting weigh. If the manufacturers just had more options on what battery you could use for what kind of riding you were doing. I’d love a 300wh battery that can be swapped for a 700wt battery on big days. I’d rather use the 43lb bike for my everyday rides. Only use a big battery if I have to . That new Atherton with battery options and the round down tube with long travel, that’s my dream bike.
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Ob917 Liked a reply to forum topic E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

4/12/2026 10:41am
Still no new e bike I’m interested in.
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tabletop84 Added a reply to E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

3/28/2026 2:59am
I wish manufacturers would take the removable battery approach of sliding it out of the downtube with a turned up motor now that the motors are so small. It would make the downtube slimmer/stiffer without a cutout at the front or side and save weight plus lower center of gravity. Or make the motor mount to be able to swing...

DylanJM Liked a reply to forum topic E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

3/28/2026 2:54am
The one on the left has a removeable battery and the one of the right a fixed battery. Both are 150mm rear wheel travel and most likely share identicle geo AFAIK.
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tabletop84 Added a reply to E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

3/19/2026 1:39am
No support from dealers in the mandatory 2 year warranty in the EU wouldn't be legal. The interesting part starts after the two years are over or if you buy a used bike and the motor stops working.