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Secondfavteacher Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
5/23/2026 9:02am That doesn't surprise me at all. I coach our high school bike team, and one of the first things I do is try to get suspension set up within an acceptable range. I'd say one of the other big issues (outside rebound) I see is pressure, so a shock pump and calipers prove quite handy. And these are kids who are stoked on riding and probably have more knowledge than the average consumer. I also see people rocking what looks like 50% sag out on the trail, bobbing about, pedals almost hitting the ground, and it takes a lot of...
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Brian_Peterson Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
5/23/2026 9:00am A couple of interesting ideas here... A service light on ebikes to get the customer to bring the bike in.. It may not turn into a major service, but it would almost always generate some kind of money, especially if the shop has a good service department. I could see push back on that from the customer who does most of their own repairs. The 3 year terms on a lease is actually brilliant. That basically guarantees the customer has the lease coming due when the next generation of bike has dropped. I guess I could see this potentially working...
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jeff.brines Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
5/23/2026 9:00am Just to put a bow on this: I do not expect asset-backed financing to show up in the mountain bike industry anytime soon. I am also not convinced it would matter much even if it did. A few thoughts... The riders most likely to use consumer financing are already fairly credit constrained. A lot of that cohort has limited remaining credit capacity, and they are the ones who would theoretically be financing an e-bike or similar product, especially at today's APRs. Speaking of APRs, I do not think true 0% APR offers are likely to show up in any meaningful...
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pinkrobe Added a reply to 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
5/22/2026 9:07am Uh, that's most bike buyers. The number of people that I've sold bikes to who don't care/know what the knobs do is... the majority. We do our best to educate, but I could see their eyes glaze over in the first 10 seconds. The number of customers who care about how suspension works is less than 5% in my experience.
Big Bird Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
5/22/2026 8:55am I assume that's a joke. It's hard to contemplate buying a bike with all of the knobs and not trying different settings. Are there really people like that? If so, that makes me really sad for humanity. What is this world coming to?
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matmattmatthew Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
5/22/2026 8:54am
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CascadeComponents Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
5/22/2026 8:53am Running less sag makes a bike track poorly on account of losing contact with the ground anytime there’s an indent the wheel has to go over. You see the same exact issue with people lifting vehicles to drive off road. They throw preload collars on and all of the sudden they feel the truck is harsher. The spring rate hasn’t gotten stiffer so why does it feel harsher? It’s losing contact with the ground and causing the chassis to pitch to allow a wheel to drop into a hole as soon as a hole is deeper than the amount of...
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chriskief Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
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hardbash Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
5/22/2026 8:50am I recently read an article by the enduro mag. They made a survey and found out that 70% of their readers that took part in the survey never changed their rebound from what the bike came with. The amount of people riding bikes that dont have a clue about basic setup is very high. For them, something like the progression rate is not relevant. We are all so far off the average user that we are not who brands have to engineer their bikes for. https://enduro-mtb.com/performance-gap-das-dilemma-moderner-bikes/
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Karabuka Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
5/22/2026 8:49am Probably refers to the fact that Jay, the owner, now lives in Taiwan and does the QC on site. Keith, the designer/engineer is from Scotland and rest of the crew is in the USA. If that makes it a Taiwanese company so be it... The fact that whole brand is basically run by 4 people is just amazing, is FW still run by just Neko and his brother or are there others (not counting the team)?
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CascadeComponents Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
5/22/2026 8:49am 25% has been the middle ground for a while I feel like. The Tallboy and recent Specialized stuff are the big ones that come to mind that are this low. I was actually thinking it would be amusing to make a Genie retrofit kit for the Tallboy. But yeah I think some of it is targeted demographic. The downfall of more progression kind of depends on what you normalize for in the comparison. If you normalize for sag, full travel is harder to access. That may be a benefit for some, but if a rider is on the cusp of...
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Brian_Peterson Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
5/22/2026 8:47am
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Brian_Peterson Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
5/22/2026 8:46am Because a lot of people will want it simply because it's more... They might never completely drain a 600w/hr battery, but they will drop the coin on the new model with the 800 w/hr simply because it's bigger, therefore it's better..
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ballz Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
5/22/2026 8:46am It's like comparison of digital cameras. Lens quality? Sensor size and DR? Shutter implementation? Who cares, it has 600Mpix!
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Bobs_is_better_than_A-line Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
5/22/2026 8:46am Guess I will keep my mechanical normal bike and ride it like someone who purchased photoshop in 2014
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saskskier Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
5/21/2026 8:44am One of my buddies who rides for Banshee says there are a bunch of new frames coming out this year. Didn't have any details around what's being updated/changed or what's new, but they're coming.
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swoopswoop Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
5/21/2026 8:43am I think it's more likely subscriptions will come in the eBike drive unit side first. Look at the latest gen Levo. The regular version is 666W (#edgy) and 101Nm. The S-Works version is 850W and 111Nm. As far as I'm aware, it's just a software limitation - the hardware is identical. Shimano introduced an over-the-air update for the EP801 to add 'Race mode'. Bosch and Avinox released an over-the-air update for more power and torque. It's not hard to envision a future where you've got a tiered, paid-for power hierarchy. The industry was happy to effectively paywall geometry by speccing...
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FullSendy Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
5/20/2026 9:39pm Of all the reviews I have seen online, nobody is complaining about the progression or bottoming out all the time. And if JKW didn't immediately fill it with volume spacers, then I think there is some overreaction here.
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TheSuspensionLabNZ Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
5/20/2026 9:37pm You have to remember the true target market of this bike....if you really need that much extra resistance then a Tallboy is the wrong bike for you, full stop. The forum guys wanting to run a coil shock are a niche of a niche type of mountain biker so they aren't going to design the bike with that in mind. I also don't think its that far off, and they maybe chose to ship it with that shock spec so people can easily remove the spacers if that need to. And plenty of people have run coil shocks in bikes...
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overbiked Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker
5/20/2026 9:36pm Super weird that it took him that long to admit it was a mistake, and only in the comments, and still doesn't seem to have an actual number for the RMU. Someone who remembers better than I do probably knows more, but his practice of patenting something and then throwing out lawsuits at seemingly every non DW bike has been called into question.
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