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They're not exactly comparable though. Neko has been developing the bike for a couple years with documentation on youtube at the highest level possible in world cup downhill, going through many iterations before he started doing a group buy for his bike. I'm not saying Zink can't make a good bike, but he just hasn't quite put himself out there like Neko had. So yeah...if I had the cash I would absolutely jump on Neko's bike, but Zink's bike? Gotta see what others say about it.

What Neko is doing is not comparable to what Zink is “doing”. Neko has been open from conception whereas Zink has just turned up with a frame. I’d wager most would buy a Frameworks if they could. A Zink, I’m not so sure… The dude can FreeSlope with the best, but “design” a bike…

I'm not sure why anyone would be chomping at the bit so much that they HAD to be first on the order books to pay full price for a frame from a brand new company who: 1. has no reason to be instilled with consumer confidence or trust other than marketing and a solid spokesperson/owner (i.e. limited info out there on the bike, no reviews, no history of other platforms, no history of customer relations, etc); and 2. has no real bespoke or novel tech, particularly progressive geometry, or other reason to try this before everyone else other than "Look...

Congratulations on releasing a Spectral, Cam! :D

Are you kidding? The frame has… holes for cables 🤢

Let's stop arguing about boiling points and get back to rumors. I go by which mineral oil tastes the best anyways.

Back to rumors. Check out this shock. Looks like a new coil shock from Intend…

No offense, but my hunch is that a $900 no-name dual crown for Surrons probably rides like a $900 no-name dual crown for Surrons. If you want to jump on that grenade to find out for the rest of us, I salute you, but I don't imagine RFloXa is killing themselves to sort out the finer points of suspension dynamics for the mostly beginner, mostly pavement-pounder Surron market in the same way that Fox, RS, EXT, or others in the high-end MTB space do.

Check the hashtag… 🤔

Glad it looks good on paper because it certainly isn't a looker otherwise.

This could have the added benefit of extra cooling conveniently being available at the same time as sudden, extreme braking events......

Just connect them to a piss tube in your pants.

What kind of crab is that?

Looks over forked

Finn Iles on Canyon confirmed. EDIT: Also bring back the lycra era.

Ok, so yes, chiming in hee. First to not as has already been pointed out we have a TON of headsets and combos. @ebruner happy to help with yours specifically (or honestly anyone for that matter) but please DM me so we don't clog the thread. General info on chiming in: 1. split races: agreed they are not ideal, and can lead to creaking. but see OEM requirements to speed up install of products and make assembly easier and cheaper at times. Yes we offer it, but only because of a request. If you haveone and want to swap it...

can we get back to rumors and please keep the headset standard discussion seperated (again)?! thx

Million dollar idea: every frame comes with three headtubes welded in a neat row to the front of it. Users can play around with reach to their heart's content, then use an angle grinder to cut off whichever ones they don't end up using. Or save them all for resale value. Choose your own adventure.

I really dislike that 95% of size L's have a 475mm Reach and XLs have a 500m reach. The bikes need to offer 10mm of reach adjust for those of us in between. That said, the new Sentinel looks like an ideal AM rig to my eyes.