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Sorry, I meant “the local bike shop” not “The-LBS.com” a website called the LBS is cause for much confusion. 😆
BTI (the distributor they ordered them from) still says they’re in stock.
There’s a chance they land tomorrow. 🤞
Edit: anyone can view the BTI catalog. It’s super useful if you want to know what your local shop can order.
Yeah, I understood you, the name of the online retailer is just a coincidence. I am surprised that one of the major online retailers of Hope in the US has 3-4 weeks ETA if BTI has them in stock. I saw them "in stock" at Bikeman that would obviously get them from a distributor, but their odd descriptions and odd stock situation (some colorways only available as RH/R) was exactly the same as 365 Cycles. I am going to let this rest.
The Hope Evo power levers are out of stock everywhere. Anyone have a source? The stock lever on the Evos are terrible
What do you mean by “terrible”, and what are you expecting to get from the power lever instead?
Way too curved. Wish they were longer. The tech 4 levers could been even longer imo
OK, the power lever will address that. It’s got less of a curve and is a bit longer (not by a whole lot, mind you…).
Good but where to source
Can’t help you with that one…
https://r2-bike.com/HOPE-Spare-Part-Brake-Lever-EVO-Power-Lever-black
$120 plus tariffs (who knows how much). Pass.
Got hit hard from lordgunn last month
It amazes me how petty removing the low value exemptions is - it’s like another actively hostile way to stick it to people while misappropriating funds. I guess it’s possible they exempted the lever variant for tiny hands though?
wrong, you got hit hard by your government
It's okay though, the Tariffs will bring Hope back to the US where they so clearly belong, after they outsourced their engineering to Lancashire to make it cheaper 😂
This is exactly what I was telling, then shouting, then screaming, then giving up talking about to pro-tariff folks:
The quest to extract every cent of value from every nook and cranny it was hiding in ultimately lead to offshoring every single thing that could possibly be offshored...in the 90s and early 2000s. We've had 20+ years of NO real development in that area and any development that happened was then immediately offshored to do it at a lower cost.
In doing that, we've been hiring and giving on-the-job experience to anyone in another country who was willing to eat cheaply (or exploit their own laborers which is a another problem but not necessarily in the scope of this conversation). It's going to take Americans taking a huge paycut, literally fucking starving some of its population to death, and moving multiple generations of families into single households to afford to pay itself little enough to eventually bring its offshored stuff back in a profitable fashion.
AND it's going to take 20 years.
I hope Trump voters learn to make bootstraps cheaper because we're going to need a few extras.
Yes obviously
no politics please…..
The tech 4 levers fit!! Forget about power blades
Yeah indeed, I open this thread for brakes, fuck politics, it’s got no place here thanks.
Even if you were to buy them, shipment may be held up in international customs. I tried buying a pair of Schwalbe tires from bikeinn, and they never made its way stateside. held up in Netherlands and eventually Bikeinn just had them shipped back to their own warehouse.
lol, you were the one accusing an italian shop of shafting you when it was your very own goverment you probably voted for, judging by your reaction...
Honestly wish I could block the downvoters, it’s getting like pinkbike
duhhhhh lordgunn didn’t decide to tariff USA consumers…..
Stop the politics
Is there much power difference? I’ve got a set of DH-Rs and trying to decide between either Oak or Freedom levers, or just getting a pair of Pro MCs..
they didn’t, your government is collecting the tariffs, NOT lordgun. are you mentally challenged? MAGA? both?
Good thing vital has a block user functionality... 🙄
I quite enjoy the Oak lever. the stiffer lever feeling helps a bit (IMO) and almost feels like there is more power with less force while pulling hard on the brakes. in Canada Pro MCs are quite expensive with tariff and everything so made more sense for me going with Oak. Having less free stroke would be a nice upgrade tho.
I have a set of DHR evo's with 203 rotors, shimano metallic pads and freedom coast levers. The freedom coast levers are for sure an upgrade over the standard levers and the ergonomics and power. That being said, these brakes have way too much free stroke and it leads to more finger/hand fatigue for me then the maven bronze and maven ultimate's I have on others bikes. For that reason, I would suggest passing on the aftermarket levers and going straight to the pro mc's.
In general, I would give the oak levers a nod over the freedom coast levers. I have freedom coast levers on a set of maven bronze and oak levers on my maven experts. I do prefer the oak levers in terms of ergonomics and feel over the freedom coast levers. I can't comment on the oak levers on the dhr's however, as I haven't tried those, but the freedom coast levers do sorta create some minor hotspots on the edges and finger hook that the oak levers do not (at least on the maven designs).
With many of the GR4 color options on backorder for 4+ weeks (confirmed with a retailer yesterday), I am thinking about trying something different - has anyone tried to use a larger cam roller in the T3 or T4 levers? I've read that swapping the roller with a 8/9mm bearing reduces the dead stroke quite a bit.
Not really, marginal at best. Adjustability is the big change, being able to bring the lever closer or change bite point feel. They also firmed up the brake hose, which apparently makes the lever have a sharper feel. They made a running change to Evos, so if your main issue is lever position, I have been told TRP will send you an update kit for that. My newer set of the Evos can get the lever much closer to the bar.
I’ve got two questions for all you Shimano XT users:
- What persistent issues have you experienced in the past?
- What aspects of the brakes have you enjoyed?
I’ve been comparing the new XT 4-piston brakes (M8200) against the previous XT 4-piston brakes (M8100). There is a lot of similarities between the two, which begs the question, “should you buy the new brakes if you're happily riding the previous gen?” That’s what I’m hoping to figure out as part of this review. I'm open to any suggestions or things people want answered!
Only issues with Old XT is the leaking or cracking of pistons. Some people complain about the rattling noise, but I didn't find it too bad.
What I like is they are not fussy brakes, they are a work horse for the most part. I personally like the on/off feel
I haven't ridden the new XT's, but have ridden the XTRs and found them to be a step up- but it's just an R and a lot of money.
- issues: wandering bite point
enjoyed: easy bleed procedure (though they didn't necessarily resolve the wandering bite point issue). decently strong bite and consistency.
I've sinced moved onto Hayes brakes which have been a step in nearly every way.
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