New Trek Fuel's configuration matrix below, added weights and prices below too (I thought Trek was reducing SKU's, but there are still a pile of build...
New Trek Fuel's configuration matrix below, added weights and prices below too (I thought Trek was reducing SKU's, but there are still a pile of build options between both bikes!)
New Trek Fuel's configuration matrix below, added weights and prices below too (I thought Trek was reducing SKU's, but there are still a pile of build...
New Trek Fuel's configuration matrix below, added weights and prices below too (I thought Trek was reducing SKU's, but there are still a pile of build options between both bikes!)
Not sure since i don’t know anyone who has bought a giant since 2020
I didnt buy it but had the new Trance x in for testing recently and it's a really good bike but would like to see giant try the Higher front end setup - I tried 50mm oneup bars on it before I returned the bike and it was even better.
I didnt buy it but had the new Trance x in for testing recently and it's a really good bike but would like to see giant...
I didnt buy it but had the new Trance x in for testing recently and it's a really good bike but would like to see giant try the Higher front end setup - I tried 50mm oneup bars on it before I returned the bike and it was even better.
Given the longer rear end that comes with most of the Giants, a taller front could be a good move..
I wouldn't be surprised if they basically end up with three key frames:Next Gen Top Fuel for Cross Country/Downcountry/TrailFuel for Trail/All-Mountain/EnduroThen the Next Gen Slash/Session for...
I wouldn't be surprised if they basically end up with three key frames:
Next Gen Top Fuel for Cross Country/Downcountry/Trail
Fuel for Trail/All-Mountain/Enduro
Then the Next Gen Slash/Session for Enduro/Downhill. Similar to the latest Orbea Rallon.
I actually saw this on the Slash FB page the other day, apparently it’s a custom 190/190mm travel Gen 6 Slash with custom rocker/lower linkages and dual crown fork.
I imagine a Slashession would be extremely popular since it can be pretty hard to justify a downhill bike for a lot of people, but something that could do both without too many compromises would be pretty compelling.
There is more money to be made by selling two bikes than a bike and a link, but the marketplace can only support so many bikes...
There is more money to be made by selling two bikes than a bike and a link, but the marketplace can only support so many bikes. I suppose that modularity will be driven by brands calculating that tradeoff, with some brands realizing that they can sell two bikes and other brands realizing that they can’t pull that off. Someone like Speci will keep pushing a different bike for every trail you ride, while smaller brands might find themselves becoming more competitive with a modular offering.
I actually think it’s the opposite. I feel like modularity is harder to pull off cost-effectively as a smaller operation. You really need the economies of...
I actually think it’s the opposite. I feel like modularity is harder to pull off cost-effectively as a smaller operation. You really need the economies of scale that only the bigger brands have to pull it off in a way that actually delivers cost savings to the manufacturer.
And specialized already seem to be reducing their product lines, Kenevo is gone and it looks like the Kenevo SL isn’t getting an update either. Stumpy evo is likely out as a bespoke frame at least. Like Trek they have indicated that they are aiming to rationalise product lineups and streamline operations.
I think for these bigger companies it’s potentially almost riskier having too many models compared to smaller brands. After 2020 I think they were badly burnt from excess inventory and are now in the process of rationalising their product lines to maximise efficiency and make sure they never end up with warehouses full of outdated bikes they have to sell for steep discounts again.
It’s also a lot easier to forecast demand with a reduced number of SKU’s.
It’s actually kind of insane how many choices we have for MTB now, I expect long term we will get more market consolidation as the current industry just doesn’t seem sustainable as there’s so much competition that nobody is able to really benefit from economies of scale to undercut competitors. I guess it also doesn’t help that the barrier for entry to making bicycle frames is a lot lower than something like a dirt bike so it’s easy for competitors to enter the market and compete for market share.
I am hearing a kenevo is hitting this year…
Capitalism just doesn’t work that way. It rewards fragmentation. If all speci sold was an epic and a stumpy I’d agree with you but damn do they make shed loads of nominally different bikes, with even more hair splitting versions on the way (new trail bike incoming to slot in between epic Evo and stumpy Evo…)
Hmm, but as I’m typing this I’m realizing I can see your perspective, wherein brands still have a lot of fragmentation and different bikes, but on the back end they are doing it with more overlap of parts, like Trek is doing (and status DH?) I guess capitalism does love that, virtual fragmentation with arbitrary distinctions between products.
I guess I was thinking about a truly modular bike, kinda geometron-esque but not as extreme.
I am hearing a kenevo is hitting this year… Capitalism just doesn’t work that way. It rewards fragmentation. If all speci sold was an epic and a...
I am hearing a kenevo is hitting this year…
Capitalism just doesn’t work that way. It rewards fragmentation. If all speci sold was an epic and a stumpy I’d agree with you but damn do they make shed loads of nominally different bikes, with even more hair splitting versions on the way (new trail bike incoming to slot in between epic Evo and stumpy Evo…)
Hmm, but as I’m typing this I’m realizing I can see your perspective, wherein brands still have a lot of fragmentation and different bikes, but on the back end they are doing it with more overlap of parts, like Trek is doing (and status DH?) I guess capitalism does love that, virtual fragmentation with arbitrary distinctions between products.
I guess I was thinking about a truly modular bike, kinda geometron-esque but not as extreme.
Not a 1:1 analogy, but in terms of "virtual fragmentation with arbitrary distinctions between products," that was GM's bread and butter for 75+ years. Cadillac, Buick, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, and Chevrolet were almost identical vehicles with minor part and trim changes to make people feel like they were buying into an entirely different brand. So that method works: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_companion_make_program
Now, on the one hand, you could say that's what every bike company does with trim levels (i.e. SLX, XT, XTR) but I think GM was doing something sneakier than that. The whole brand and product name changed. More like PON's brand portfolio, but if all the bikes were obviously the same bike. And GM buyers bought into this fantasy in droves.
There's the old joke, "What's the difference between a Chevy and a GMC? Lock washers."
I am hearing a kenevo is hitting this year… Capitalism just doesn’t work that way. It rewards fragmentation. If all speci sold was an epic and a...
I am hearing a kenevo is hitting this year…
Capitalism just doesn’t work that way. It rewards fragmentation. If all speci sold was an epic and a stumpy I’d agree with you but damn do they make shed loads of nominally different bikes, with even more hair splitting versions on the way (new trail bike incoming to slot in between epic Evo and stumpy Evo…)
Hmm, but as I’m typing this I’m realizing I can see your perspective, wherein brands still have a lot of fragmentation and different bikes, but on the back end they are doing it with more overlap of parts, like Trek is doing (and status DH?) I guess capitalism does love that, virtual fragmentation with arbitrary distinctions between products.
I guess I was thinking about a truly modular bike, kinda geometron-esque but not as extreme.
Not a 1:1 analogy, but in terms of "virtual fragmentation with arbitrary distinctions between products," that was GM's bread and butter for 75+ years. Cadillac, Buick...
Not a 1:1 analogy, but in terms of "virtual fragmentation with arbitrary distinctions between products," that was GM's bread and butter for 75+ years. Cadillac, Buick, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, and Chevrolet were almost identical vehicles with minor part and trim changes to make people feel like they were buying into an entirely different brand. So that method works: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_companion_make_program
Now, on the one hand, you could say that's what every bike company does with trim levels (i.e. SLX, XT, XTR) but I think GM was doing something sneakier than that. The whole brand and product name changed. More like PON's brand portfolio, but if all the bikes were obviously the same bike. And GM buyers bought into this fantasy in droves.
There's the old joke, "What's the difference between a Chevy and a GMC? Lock washers."
I am hearing a kenevo is hitting this year… Capitalism just doesn’t work that way. It rewards fragmentation. If all speci sold was an epic and a...
I am hearing a kenevo is hitting this year…
Capitalism just doesn’t work that way. It rewards fragmentation. If all speci sold was an epic and a stumpy I’d agree with you but damn do they make shed loads of nominally different bikes, with even more hair splitting versions on the way (new trail bike incoming to slot in between epic Evo and stumpy Evo…)
Hmm, but as I’m typing this I’m realizing I can see your perspective, wherein brands still have a lot of fragmentation and different bikes, but on the back end they are doing it with more overlap of parts, like Trek is doing (and status DH?) I guess capitalism does love that, virtual fragmentation with arbitrary distinctions between products.
I guess I was thinking about a truly modular bike, kinda geometron-esque but not as extreme.
Not a 1:1 analogy, but in terms of "virtual fragmentation with arbitrary distinctions between products," that was GM's bread and butter for 75+ years. Cadillac, Buick...
Not a 1:1 analogy, but in terms of "virtual fragmentation with arbitrary distinctions between products," that was GM's bread and butter for 75+ years. Cadillac, Buick, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, and Chevrolet were almost identical vehicles with minor part and trim changes to make people feel like they were buying into an entirely different brand. So that method works: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_companion_make_program
Now, on the one hand, you could say that's what every bike company does with trim levels (i.e. SLX, XT, XTR) but I think GM was doing something sneakier than that. The whole brand and product name changed. More like PON's brand portfolio, but if all the bikes were obviously the same bike. And GM buyers bought into this fantasy in droves.
There's the old joke, "What's the difference between a Chevy and a GMC? Lock washers."
I'm taking this as confirmation that the Vala really is the prototype GT ebike that never saw production.
I am hearing a kenevo is hitting this year… Capitalism just doesn’t work that way. It rewards fragmentation. If all speci sold was an epic and a...
I am hearing a kenevo is hitting this year…
Capitalism just doesn’t work that way. It rewards fragmentation. If all speci sold was an epic and a stumpy I’d agree with you but damn do they make shed loads of nominally different bikes, with even more hair splitting versions on the way (new trail bike incoming to slot in between epic Evo and stumpy Evo…)
Hmm, but as I’m typing this I’m realizing I can see your perspective, wherein brands still have a lot of fragmentation and different bikes, but on the back end they are doing it with more overlap of parts, like Trek is doing (and status DH?) I guess capitalism does love that, virtual fragmentation with arbitrary distinctions between products.
I guess I was thinking about a truly modular bike, kinda geometron-esque but not as extreme.
Not a 1:1 analogy, but in terms of "virtual fragmentation with arbitrary distinctions between products," that was GM's bread and butter for 75+ years. Cadillac, Buick...
Not a 1:1 analogy, but in terms of "virtual fragmentation with arbitrary distinctions between products," that was GM's bread and butter for 75+ years. Cadillac, Buick, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, and Chevrolet were almost identical vehicles with minor part and trim changes to make people feel like they were buying into an entirely different brand. So that method works: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_companion_make_program
Now, on the one hand, you could say that's what every bike company does with trim levels (i.e. SLX, XT, XTR) but I think GM was doing something sneakier than that. The whole brand and product name changed. More like PON's brand portfolio, but if all the bikes were obviously the same bike. And GM buyers bought into this fantasy in droves.
There's the old joke, "What's the difference between a Chevy and a GMC? Lock washers."
That also culminated in gm needing a bailout. And without the tariff protection introduced it’s hard to believe they would have made it that long. And since Obama’s trade in deal removed 100,000 + working cars from the market. The used market has been terrible ever since.
I wouldn’t mind if they brought gt back just by making aluminum Santa Cruz’s with budget builds on the other hand. If the bikes are good and they bring back that gt vibe I think that’s a brand that is poised for a comeback with the right momentum behind it.
There is more money to be made by selling two bikes than a bike and a link, but the marketplace can only support so many bikes...
There is more money to be made by selling two bikes than a bike and a link, but the marketplace can only support so many bikes. I suppose that modularity will be driven by brands calculating that tradeoff, with some brands realizing that they can sell two bikes and other brands realizing that they can’t pull that off. Someone like Speci will keep pushing a different bike for every trail you ride, while smaller brands might find themselves becoming more competitive with a modular offering.
I actually think it’s the opposite. I feel like modularity is harder to pull off cost-effectively as a smaller operation. You really need the economies of...
I actually think it’s the opposite. I feel like modularity is harder to pull off cost-effectively as a smaller operation. You really need the economies of scale that only the bigger brands have to pull it off in a way that actually delivers cost savings to the manufacturer.
And specialized already seem to be reducing their product lines, Kenevo is gone and it looks like the Kenevo SL isn’t getting an update either. Stumpy evo is likely out as a bespoke frame at least. Like Trek they have indicated that they are aiming to rationalise product lineups and streamline operations.
I think for these bigger companies it’s potentially almost riskier having too many models compared to smaller brands. After 2020 I think they were badly burnt from excess inventory and are now in the process of rationalising their product lines to maximise efficiency and make sure they never end up with warehouses full of outdated bikes they have to sell for steep discounts again.
It’s also a lot easier to forecast demand with a reduced number of SKU’s.
It’s actually kind of insane how many choices we have for MTB now, I expect long term we will get more market consolidation as the current industry just doesn’t seem sustainable as there’s so much competition that nobody is able to really benefit from economies of scale to undercut competitors. I guess it also doesn’t help that the barrier for entry to making bicycle frames is a lot lower than something like a dirt bike so it’s easy for competitors to enter the market and compete for market share.
I am hearing a kenevo is hitting this year… Capitalism just doesn’t work that way. It rewards fragmentation. If all speci sold was an epic and a...
I am hearing a kenevo is hitting this year…
Capitalism just doesn’t work that way. It rewards fragmentation. If all speci sold was an epic and a stumpy I’d agree with you but damn do they make shed loads of nominally different bikes, with even more hair splitting versions on the way (new trail bike incoming to slot in between epic Evo and stumpy Evo…)
Hmm, but as I’m typing this I’m realizing I can see your perspective, wherein brands still have a lot of fragmentation and different bikes, but on the back end they are doing it with more overlap of parts, like Trek is doing (and status DH?) I guess capitalism does love that, virtual fragmentation with arbitrary distinctions between products.
I guess I was thinking about a truly modular bike, kinda geometron-esque but not as extreme.
Interesting, I hadn’t heard anything about a new Kenevo, although I had heard rumours of a specialized long travel link that fits the levo 4 frame like the cascade one. It could be a whole new frame though. A lot of their models haven’t been updated in a long time, like the Demo and Enduro.
That’s a good way of putting it in regards to virtual fragmentation. Trek probably could of called the LX and MX a Remedy and Slash Jr, which might of been less confusing for the customer, but probably didn’t want to get accused of badge engineering like GM.
I didnt buy it but had the new Trance x in for testing recently and it's a really good bike but would like to see giant...
I didnt buy it but had the new Trance x in for testing recently and it's a really good bike but would like to see giant try the Higher front end setup - I tried 50mm oneup bars on it before I returned the bike and it was even better.
Hi, I have been looking at this bike pretty seriously and wanted to test one but noone in NZ has a test bike from what i can find, could you let me know where i might see one in person or evenm ride one?
I actually think it’s the opposite. I feel like modularity is harder to pull off cost-effectively as a smaller operation. You really need the economies of...
I actually think it’s the opposite. I feel like modularity is harder to pull off cost-effectively as a smaller operation. You really need the economies of scale that only the bigger brands have to pull it off in a way that actually delivers cost savings to the manufacturer.
And specialized already seem to be reducing their product lines, Kenevo is gone and it looks like the Kenevo SL isn’t getting an update either. Stumpy evo is likely out as a bespoke frame at least. Like Trek they have indicated that they are aiming to rationalise product lineups and streamline operations.
I think for these bigger companies it’s potentially almost riskier having too many models compared to smaller brands. After 2020 I think they were badly burnt from excess inventory and are now in the process of rationalising their product lines to maximise efficiency and make sure they never end up with warehouses full of outdated bikes they have to sell for steep discounts again.
It’s also a lot easier to forecast demand with a reduced number of SKU’s.
It’s actually kind of insane how many choices we have for MTB now, I expect long term we will get more market consolidation as the current industry just doesn’t seem sustainable as there’s so much competition that nobody is able to really benefit from economies of scale to undercut competitors. I guess it also doesn’t help that the barrier for entry to making bicycle frames is a lot lower than something like a dirt bike so it’s easy for competitors to enter the market and compete for market share.
I am hearing a kenevo is hitting this year… Capitalism just doesn’t work that way. It rewards fragmentation. If all speci sold was an epic and a...
I am hearing a kenevo is hitting this year…
Capitalism just doesn’t work that way. It rewards fragmentation. If all speci sold was an epic and a stumpy I’d agree with you but damn do they make shed loads of nominally different bikes, with even more hair splitting versions on the way (new trail bike incoming to slot in between epic Evo and stumpy Evo…)
Hmm, but as I’m typing this I’m realizing I can see your perspective, wherein brands still have a lot of fragmentation and different bikes, but on the back end they are doing it with more overlap of parts, like Trek is doing (and status DH?) I guess capitalism does love that, virtual fragmentation with arbitrary distinctions between products.
I guess I was thinking about a truly modular bike, kinda geometron-esque but not as extreme.
Interesting, I hadn’t heard anything about a new Kenevo, although I had heard rumours of a specialized long travel link that fits the levo 4 frame...
Interesting, I hadn’t heard anything about a new Kenevo, although I had heard rumours of a specialized long travel link that fits the levo 4 frame like the cascade one. It could be a whole new frame though. A lot of their models haven’t been updated in a long time, like the Demo and Enduro.
That’s a good way of putting it in regards to virtual fragmentation. Trek probably could of called the LX and MX a Remedy and Slash Jr, which might of been less confusing for the customer, but probably didn’t want to get accused of badge engineering like GM.
Well yeah we have been waiting for the enduro for freaking EVER and we know that will come sooner or later. I didn’t hear specifics but I heard mention of full power long travel, so you could be right about a long travel Levo! I guess it makes sense since the new suspension design specialized has been working on would be hard to integrate a motor into…
New Chromag trail bike was on display in the SRAM booth at Crankworx for part of Saturday. A Google of the Reazon name shows Pinkbike has a launch article ready to drop.
135 travel frame. Steel front with aluminum rear end.
Not sure if that was ever solved, but it looks like there is nothing unusual from inside; however, there still seems to be something hidden on the outside of the left leg (assuming the right leg thing is just a racing chip).
New Chromag trail bike was on display in the SRAM booth at Crankworx for part of Saturday. A Google of the Reazon name shows Pinkbike has...
New Chromag trail bike was on display in the SRAM booth at Crankworx for part of Saturday. A Google of the Reazon name shows Pinkbike has a launch article ready to drop.
135 travel frame. Steel front with aluminum rear end.
New Chromag trail bike was on display in the SRAM booth at Crankworx for part of Saturday. A Google of the Reazon name shows Pinkbike has...
New Chromag trail bike was on display in the SRAM booth at Crankworx for part of Saturday. A Google of the Reazon name shows Pinkbike has a launch article ready to drop.
135 travel frame. Steel front with aluminum rear end.
New Chromag trail bike was on display in the SRAM booth at Crankworx for part of Saturday. A Google of the Reazon name shows Pinkbike has...
New Chromag trail bike was on display in the SRAM booth at Crankworx for part of Saturday. A Google of the Reazon name shows Pinkbike has a launch article ready to drop.
135 travel frame. Steel front with aluminum rear end.
As an XL sized rider, can we talk about how the reaches on XLs from brands north of the border (Norco, Chromag) are passing the 520 mark - still recommended for riders 6’1-6’5?
The chain stays look fun - but this growing reach from just over 500 to the 520s has me wondering… will it ever end? The angles on my Norco sight fit me fine and it’s a slayer on the descents, anyone see this trend happening?
As an XL sized rider, can we talk about how the reaches on XLs from brands north of the border (Norco, Chromag) are passing the 520...
As an XL sized rider, can we talk about how the reaches on XLs from brands north of the border (Norco, Chromag) are passing the 520 mark - still recommended for riders 6’1-6’5?
The chain stays look fun - but this growing reach from just over 500 to the 520s has me wondering… will it ever end? The angles on my Norco sight fit me fine and it’s a slayer on the descents, anyone see this trend happening?
Not sure since i don’t know anyone who has bought a giant since 2020
I didnt buy it but had the new Trance x in for testing recently and it's a really good bike but would like to see giant try the Higher front end setup - I tried 50mm oneup bars on it before I returned the bike and it was even better.
Given the longer rear end that comes with most of the Giants, a taller front could be a good move..
I am hearing a kenevo is hitting this year…
Capitalism just doesn’t work that way. It rewards fragmentation. If all speci sold was an epic and a stumpy I’d agree with you but damn do they make shed loads of nominally different bikes, with even more hair splitting versions on the way (new trail bike incoming to slot in between epic Evo and stumpy Evo…)
Hmm, but as I’m typing this I’m realizing I can see your perspective, wherein brands still have a lot of fragmentation and different bikes, but on the back end they are doing it with more overlap of parts, like Trek is doing (and status DH?) I guess capitalism does love that, virtual fragmentation with arbitrary distinctions between products.
I guess I was thinking about a truly modular bike, kinda geometron-esque but not as extreme.
Not a 1:1 analogy, but in terms of "virtual fragmentation with arbitrary distinctions between products," that was GM's bread and butter for 75+ years. Cadillac, Buick, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, and Chevrolet were almost identical vehicles with minor part and trim changes to make people feel like they were buying into an entirely different brand. So that method works: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_companion_make_program
Now, on the one hand, you could say that's what every bike company does with trim levels (i.e. SLX, XT, XTR) but I think GM was doing something sneakier than that. The whole brand and product name changed. More like PON's brand portfolio, but if all the bikes were obviously the same bike. And GM buyers bought into this fantasy in droves.
There's the old joke, "What's the difference between a Chevy and a GMC? Lock washers."
Mmm great point connecting it with pon!
I'm taking this as confirmation that the Vala really is the prototype GT ebike that never saw production.
The covered Ari Dh bike looks like it could also be an enduro bike with a few of the enduro riders on them
The Vala doesn’t look much like this
Vala looks a lot more like the GT than every other Santa Cruz VPP...
Well they are both 4 bar horst link ebikes
Santa Cruz makes its first 4 bar horst bike shortly after GT calls it quits... 🤔
The non-vpp e bike was in the works years ago.
They realized vpp with a shock tunnel, battery and motor basically impossible to get a good frame package (long seat post insertion, water bottle etc)
That also culminated in gm needing a bailout. And without the tariff protection introduced it’s hard to believe they would have made it that long. And since Obama’s trade in deal removed 100,000 + working cars from the market. The used market has been terrible ever since.
I wouldn’t mind if they brought gt back just by making aluminum Santa Cruz’s with budget builds on the other hand. If the bikes are good and they bring back that gt vibe I think that’s a brand that is poised for a comeback with the right momentum behind it.
In the works for years... at GT??
Don't crush my conspiracy dreams 🤣
Interesting, I hadn’t heard anything about a new Kenevo, although I had heard rumours of a specialized long travel link that fits the levo 4 frame like the cascade one. It could be a whole new frame though. A lot of their models haven’t been updated in a long time, like the Demo and Enduro.
That’s a good way of putting it in regards to virtual fragmentation. Trek probably could of called the LX and MX a Remedy and Slash Jr, which might of been less confusing for the customer, but probably didn’t want to get accused of badge engineering like GM.
Hi, I have been looking at this bike pretty seriously and wanted to test one but noone in NZ has a test bike from what i can find, could you let me know where i might see one in person or evenm ride one?
Well yeah we have been waiting for the enduro for freaking EVER and we know that will come sooner or later. I didn’t hear specifics but I heard mention of full power long travel, so you could be right about a long travel Levo! I guess it makes sense since the new suspension design specialized has been working on would be hard to integrate a motor into…
I hear Gwin's ebike brand rides ok
New Chromag trail bike was on display in the SRAM booth at Crankworx for part of Saturday. A Google of the Reazon name shows Pinkbike has a launch article ready to drop.
135 travel frame. Steel front with aluminum rear end.
Not sure if that was ever solved, but it looks like there is nothing unusual from inside; however, there still seems to be something hidden on the outside of the left leg (assuming the right leg thing is just a racing chip).
From the horse's mouth:
Reazon – Chromag Bikes
take my $$
People are about to be REAL MAD about the chainstays...
(But also can we please not? https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/modern-geo-talk-chainstays-stack-re…)
As an XL sized rider, can we talk about how the reaches on XLs from brands north of the border (Norco, Chromag) are passing the 520 mark - still recommended for riders 6’1-6’5?
The chain stays look fun - but this growing reach from just over 500 to the 520s has me wondering… will it ever end? The angles on my Norco sight fit me fine and it’s a slayer on the descents, anyone see this trend happening?
Stays seem like a matter of preference.
There's a multi-page thread about that: https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/modern-geo-talk-chainstays-stack-re…
Sorry to disrupt geo talk
Saw this this morning
Hmmm, Chromag shirt, Chromag pants, Chromag gloves, Chromag wheels, Chromag saddle. Either it's a clue or it's some high level trolling.
Curious to see who the rider is, that might help narrow down
Well youre wrong. Its obviously a Session.