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7/2/2025 4:08pm
Kusa wrote:
IMG 9203

They do a Boxxer with a rush damper? Hold on?

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7/2/2025 4:12pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2025 4:17pm
Its a good looking bike. And under Colognes it sure looks fast, given that hes coming from the Commencal, which everyone seems to think is the fastest...

Its a good looking bike. 

And under Colognes it sure looks fast, given that hes coming from the Commencal, which everyone seems to think is the fastest bike on the circuit right now.   

It also appears to the the same "2008 demo" suspension design as the "new" Nukeproof haha. 

It's actually closer in suspension design to the Supreme v5 in that it's an upper and lower link connected by a tie rod. The shock on the new Gambler appears to be driven by the lower link rather than the upper link. 

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4qPWelsrCf/?igsh=MXFwOXdmM3g2NXc1cg==

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7/2/2025 8:08pm
Didn’t mondraker go down this road years ago only to become more moderate? And if you look at race results of the most recent people using...

Didn’t mondraker go down this road years ago only to become more moderate? And if you look at race results of the most recent people using the super short stem theory - cough *gamux, you’ll see it’s not exactly the most successful thing in the pits. 

Seems a strange design ethos.. to position myself further backwards to correct my weight bias that’s happened due to an extremely long chainstay I have designed; I then needed to utilise a novel stem to shorten everything up and position myself centrally! 
Or am I reading it incorrectly?  

sethimus wrote:

Harriet Harnden won Pietra Ligure on the Rulezman stem. Your argument is invalid.

Counterpoint - Back in 2012 Brook went back to a normal stem and won a world cup after being on the short one most of the season

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7/2/2025 9:41pm
Kusa wrote:
IMG 9203

You know… its Scott. It looks good. But we are Vital. I cant tell if we are suppose to hate this? 

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7/2/2025 9:50pm
Kusa wrote:
IMG 9203

These builds always perplex me. "Yeah, I definitely need a carbon frame on my DH bike... but the base model Boxxer and Vivid, and the MT520 brakes should be fine, right?"

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7/2/2025 9:51pm

You know… its Scott. It looks good. But we are Vital. I cant tell if we are suppose to hate this? 

Only if it lives up to the Scott name, by including a remote lockout and headset cable routing 

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7/2/2025 11:03pm

Looks like BCF are ready to release new bikes under NukeproofIMG 7857 0.png?VersionId=tSq9KkRo0 3PPR ecD

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7/3/2025 12:00am Edited Date/Time 7/3/2025 12:04am
Kusa wrote:
IMG 9203

They do a Boxxer with a rush damper? Hold on?

fork in the picture is a fox 40 though.

 

edit: ok, after reading the full spec list i can see that nothing matches that picture Smile

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7/3/2025 12:06am
thericeman wrote:
Looks like BCF are ready to release new bikes under Nukeproof

Looks like BCF are ready to release new bikes under NukeproofIMG 7857 0.png?VersionId=tSq9KkRo0 3PPR ecD

And xc bikes tooIMG 7859.png?VersionId=I.s8yVtPPT8CAgQL

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7/3/2025 12:37am
thericeman wrote:
And xc bikes too

And xc bikes tooIMG 7859.png?VersionId=I.s8yVtPPT8CAgQL

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New reactor (carbon and alloy) 

Also new Giga

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7/3/2025 12:52am
New reactor (carbon and alloy) Also new Giga
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New reactor (carbon and alloy) 

Also new Giga

Am I the only one who thinks the red giga looks weird? Almost like reverse mullet. Hope I'm not having a stroke or something.

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7/3/2025 1:05am
New reactor (carbon and alloy) Also new Giga
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New reactor (carbon and alloy) 

Also new Giga

Jakub_G wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks the red giga looks weird? Almost like reverse mullet. Hope I'm not having a stroke or something.

Looks like it to me too. 

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7/3/2025 1:57am
thericeman wrote:
Looks like BCF are ready to release new bikes under Nukeproof

Looks like BCF are ready to release new bikes under NukeproofIMG 7857 0.png?VersionId=tSq9KkRo0 3PPR ecD

thericeman wrote:
And xc bikes too

And xc bikes tooIMG 7859.png?VersionId=I.s8yVtPPT8CAgQL

that Megafly is just a rebadged Ridley Raft. I guess that there will be a fair amount of repurposing from BCF 

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7/3/2025 1:59am
thericeman wrote:
And xc bikes too

And xc bikes tooIMG 7859.png?VersionId=I.s8yVtPPT8CAgQL

New reactor (carbon and alloy) Also new Giga
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New reactor (carbon and alloy) 

Also new Giga

Any geo on the new Reactor?

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7/3/2025 3:29am Edited Date/Time 7/3/2025 3:36am
thericeman wrote:
And xc bikes too

And xc bikes tooIMG 7859.png?VersionId=I.s8yVtPPT8CAgQL

New reactor (carbon and alloy) Also new Giga
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New reactor (carbon and alloy) 

Also new Giga

j0lsrud wrote:

Any geo on the new Reactor?

Went to check but they’ve taken them off the site. If you search on DuckDuckGo for Nukeproof “reactor crb” or any name of bike it will come up with the page but no geometry anymore and the menu pages that show all the bikes are no longerIMG 7865

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7/3/2025 4:50am Edited Date/Time 7/3/2025 4:53am
j0lsrud wrote:

Any geo on the new Reactor?

There were geo charts when I looked, but I didn't memorise them. The Kilowatt had a 445mm rear centre across all sizes and I think a 64.5HTA, with a reach about 475 in large. I'm assuming the Reactor would be similar with a shorter RC as it has no motor.

 

They did also have the Megawatt carbon with the SRAM motor up on the website as well, so it seems like a mix of the older designs (Mega, Scout), bikes they had in the works (Reactor v2 and Giga v2) and ones borrowed from BCFs other brands (Megafly)

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7/3/2025 5:00am
TEAMROBOT wrote:
These builds always perplex me. "Yeah, I definitely need a carbon frame on my DH bike... but the base model Boxxer and Vivid, and the MT520...

These builds always perplex me. "Yeah, I definitely need a carbon frame on my DH bike... but the base model Boxxer and Vivid, and the MT520 brakes should be fine, right?"

See that alot on road bikes and Santa Cruz... Carbon frames and cheap build kits.. Because somehow the Carbon frame will cover up the performance of the lower tier parts...

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7/3/2025 5:48am

Manufacturer wise it should make sense as they buy the gear and "make" the frame so the margins should be higher. Problem is most of the brands also buy the frames 😂

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7/3/2025 6:30am
TEAMROBOT wrote:
These builds always perplex me. "Yeah, I definitely need a carbon frame on my DH bike... but the base model Boxxer and Vivid, and the MT520...

These builds always perplex me. "Yeah, I definitely need a carbon frame on my DH bike... but the base model Boxxer and Vivid, and the MT520 brakes should be fine, right?"

See that alot on road bikes and Santa Cruz... Carbon frames and cheap build kits.. Because somehow the Carbon frame will cover up the performance of...

See that alot on road bikes and Santa Cruz... Carbon frames and cheap build kits.. Because somehow the Carbon frame will cover up the performance of the lower tier parts...

Oh god, the amount of Ibis Mojos with Xfusion suspension in the wild in 2013-2016 was wild. The amount of people with carbon bikes and non functional forks I saw was a sight to behold. 

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7/3/2025 7:12am
DServy wrote:
Oh god, the amount of Ibis Mojos with Xfusion suspension in the wild in 2013-2016 was wild. The amount of people with carbon bikes and non...

Oh god, the amount of Ibis Mojos with Xfusion suspension in the wild in 2013-2016 was wild. The amount of people with carbon bikes and non functional forks I saw was a sight to behold. 

It's the "we don't do a frame only option so here's the bare minimum" build imo

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7/3/2025 7:14am Edited Date/Time 7/3/2025 7:28am
New reactor (carbon and alloy) Also new Giga
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New reactor (carbon and alloy) 

Also new Giga

Jakub_G wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks the red giga looks weird? Almost like reverse mullet. Hope I'm not having a stroke or something.

Primoz wrote:

Looks like it to me too. 

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7/3/2025 7:34am
Kusa wrote:
IMG 9203
TEAMROBOT wrote:
These builds always perplex me. "Yeah, I definitely need a carbon frame on my DH bike... but the base model Boxxer and Vivid, and the MT520...

These builds always perplex me. "Yeah, I definitely need a carbon frame on my DH bike... but the base model Boxxer and Vivid, and the MT520 brakes should be fine, right?"

mullet, M, L, and XL sizes (no small? maybe full 27.5 in that size?), carbon front alloy rear. 

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7/3/2025 8:19am
sethimus wrote:
Coulanges, the name you are looking for is Coulanges. He rides a bike for a living. Colognes. You wear those on the body to smell better. Know...

Coulanges, the name you are looking for is Coulanges. He rides a bike for a living. 

Colognes. You wear those on the body to smell better. Know your French.

I guess no one can take a joke in 2025. 

I still think its a good looking bike. 

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7/3/2025 8:33am

I had a Mojo with X-Fusion. Friend was the local dealer and got offered a deal. Idea was to swap parts over time. It ended up with Fox 36 and CCDBA and full XT groupset as things wore out and items were in the sale. Still worked out cheaper than buying a better spec to begin with and I had it exactly how I wanted it. 

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7/3/2025 9:15am

The Cube floating brake arm is is a beast.

It still seems silly to me to put a floating brake mount on a Horst link bike. 

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7/3/2025 9:32am
It still seems silly to me to put a floating brake mount on a Horst link bike. 

The Cube floating brake arm is is a beast.

It still seems silly to me to put a floating brake mount on a Horst link bike. 

Why is it silly? Don't know the intricacies of the design.

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7/3/2025 9:33am

It's very modified with a much higher main pivot and they are probably testing (trying out) a lower antirise value for whatever reason. 

There are for sure reasons to try it out on a Horst link when you are developing the bike. 

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7/3/2025 9:50am
It still seems silly to me to put a floating brake mount on a Horst link bike. 

The Cube floating brake arm is is a beast.

It still seems silly to me to put a floating brake mount on a Horst link bike. 

If you are running the fork super stiff you can lower anti-rise since it's not prone to diving. Most WC racers are so that makes sense to me. If you don't run the fork super stiff, weight transfer is accentuated and the bike seesaws when you go on and off the brakes.

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7/3/2025 10:27am
It still seems silly to me to put a floating brake mount on a Horst link bike. 

The Cube floating brake arm is is a beast.

It still seems silly to me to put a floating brake mount on a Horst link bike. 

WHOA hold your horses the brake arm is cool and all, but is that a Radial ply Tacky Chan prototype I can see???? Praise the lord!!!

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7/3/2025 12:04pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:
These builds always perplex me. "Yeah, I definitely need a carbon frame on my DH bike... but the base model Boxxer and Vivid, and the MT520...

These builds always perplex me. "Yeah, I definitely need a carbon frame on my DH bike... but the base model Boxxer and Vivid, and the MT520 brakes should be fine, right?"

See that alot on road bikes and Santa Cruz... Carbon frames and cheap build kits.. Because somehow the Carbon frame will cover up the performance of...

See that alot on road bikes and Santa Cruz... Carbon frames and cheap build kits.. Because somehow the Carbon frame will cover up the performance of the lower tier parts...

How dare you speak ill of Santa Cruz! Let the downvotes commence!

 

In seriousness though the entry level scott is destined to be many a European bike park's "premium" rental option. 

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