E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

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6/6/2025 2:28am Edited Date/Time 6/6/2025 2:29am
Snakes wrote:

New Mahle M40 motor:
https://mahle-smartbike.com/m40/

No ebikes with it so far?

105NM, twin wireless bar controllers, bigger screen and a circular magnet instead of the old small single type. You have to take your hat off to these guys, I don't know where they get their ideas from. 🤣

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Looks rather long and heavy. But maybe it's just the optics. I wish someone would make an Avinox bike with a removable battery. But maybe the...

Looks rather long and heavy. But maybe it's just the optics. I wish someone would make an Avinox bike with a removable battery. But maybe the system doesn't allow it (yet). I just wonder how low full power weight could go with that option...

The frame design of the Crestline would allow a lower slide out tho. 

this one has a removable battery and is light. former 600wh bosch version was 21.5kg+

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veefour wrote:
105NM, twin wireless bar controllers, bigger screen and a circular magnet instead of the old small single type. You have to take your hat off to...

105NM, twin wireless bar controllers, bigger screen and a circular magnet instead of the old small single type. You have to take your hat off to these guys, I don't know where they get their ideas from. 🤣

not a magnet afaik but a sensor

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veefour wrote:
105NM, twin wireless bar controllers, bigger screen and a circular magnet instead of the old small single type. You have to take your hat off to...

105NM, twin wireless bar controllers, bigger screen and a circular magnet instead of the old small single type. You have to take your hat off to these guys, I don't know where they get their ideas from. 🤣

sethimus wrote:

not a magnet afaik but a sensor

Fair enough, my point remains.

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veefour wrote:

Fair enough, my point remains.

if you know anything about the german speed of innovation, this design is most likely older than when dji released their motor...

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veefour wrote:

Fair enough, my point remains.

sethimus wrote:

if you know anything about the german speed of innovation, this design is most likely older than when dji released their motor...

Maybe their marketing needs to speed up too. 😉

6/20/2025 6:33pm

god dammit, are emtbs going to be like every iteration of the iphone?!?!? I gotta raise my credit card limit....

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6/25/2025 6:22am
sspomer wrote:
commencal meta power with DJIhttps://www.commencal.com/us/en/search?cgid=bike-ebikes-enduro-metapowerdji&lang=en_US

Big power, big battery, small belly. I'm very much into this! I'd prefer a dual 29" but I can make this work.

6/25/2025 9:06am Edited Date/Time 6/25/2025 9:07am
sspomer wrote:
commencal meta power with DJIhttps://www.commencal.com/us/en/search?cgid=bike-ebikes-enduro-metapowerdji&lang=en_US

By a big margin Commencal has to be the largest volume seller offering a DJI, right? Unless I'm forgetting someone. The almost 1 yeat headsup is a little odd... maybe they're trying to get on peoples radars so they hold off buying something else? Smaller guys like Forbidden and Crestline are rushing small volume DJI bikes to market in the next couple of months but the follow up, larger release is futher off, like Commencal. If I read into that, it means...???

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If what FC is saying about DJI is correct no one in the States will be getting one, even if they are happy to wait until next year.

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sspomer wrote:
commencal meta power with DJIhttps://www.commencal.com/us/en/search?cgid=bike-ebikes-enduro-metapowerdji&lang=en_US
By a big margin Commencal has to be the largest volume seller offering a DJI, right? Unless I'm forgetting someone. The almost 1 yeat headsup is...

By a big margin Commencal has to be the largest volume seller offering a DJI, right? Unless I'm forgetting someone. The almost 1 yeat headsup is a little odd... maybe they're trying to get on peoples radars so they hold off buying something else? Smaller guys like Forbidden and Crestline are rushing small volume DJI bikes to market in the next couple of months but the follow up, larger release is futher off, like Commencal. If I read into that, it means...???

Not sure about that, Megamo are probalby bigger with no less than 12 (!!!) spec levels with DJI.

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got the new Propain Sresh SL in for testing. insta reel of the bike we have.

- 150 rear travel

- Dual 29 or mullet

- TQ with 360 or 580wh removable battery options (160 range extender available too)

our configuration is at 44-pounds / 19.95 kg with ohlins coil, 580wh battery. looks fantastic in person and like a hoot to ride. stay tuned.

details on propain site - https://www.propain-bikes.com/us/product/bikes/trail/sresh-sl/ (looks like 2 kits for U.S. with configurator options, 5 kits for elsewhere)

propainSreshSL.jpg?VersionId=M LdGapkXrTERcPropainSreshSL

approximate cost U.S. and ship date of ours was built out (wheels different on actual than what i chose in configurator)

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sspomer wrote:
got the new Propain Sresh SL in for testing. insta reel of the bike we have.- 150 rear travel- Dual 29 or mullet- TQ with 360...

got the new Propain Sresh SL in for testing. insta reel of the bike we have.

- 150 rear travel

- Dual 29 or mullet

- TQ with 360 or 580wh removable battery options (160 range extender available too)

our configuration is at 44-pounds / 19.95 kg with ohlins coil, 580wh battery. looks fantastic in person and like a hoot to ride. stay tuned.

details on propain site - https://www.propain-bikes.com/us/product/bikes/trail/sresh-sl/ (looks like 2 kits for U.S. with configurator options, 5 kits for elsewhere)

propainSreshSL.jpg?VersionId=M LdGapkXrTERcPropainSreshSL

approximate cost U.S. and ship date of ours was built out (wheels different on actual than what i chose in configurator)

Damn better than the Yeti, coil, bigger fork, alloy wheels, enduro tyres, still lighter 🔥 

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Evil96 wrote:

Damn better than the Yeti, coil, bigger fork, alloy wheels, enduro tyres, still lighter 🔥 

Yeti usually only wins in looks and brand awareness, not so much in specs and value. 

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6/27/2025 6:10am Edited Date/Time 6/27/2025 6:54am
veefour wrote:
If what FC is saying about DJI is correct no one in the States will be getting one, even if they are happy to wait until...

If what FC is saying about DJI is correct no one in the States will be getting one, even if they are happy to wait until next year.

A poster in another forum is claiming to be a shop in AZ and is taking deposits on Amflow bikes, claiming they will be released on July 10th. 

Amflow PL Carbon is $7,499, and for the Amflow PL Carbon Pro, it is $10,199.”


A. I’m skeptical B. Being announced is very different from shipping. 

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6/27/2025 6:26am Edited Date/Time 6/27/2025 6:30am
veefour wrote:
If what FC is saying about DJI is correct no one in the States will be getting one, even if they are happy to wait until...

If what FC is saying about DJI is correct no one in the States will be getting one, even if they are happy to wait until next year.

A poster in another forum is claiming to be a shop in AZ and is taking deposits on Amflow bikes, claiming they will be released on...

A poster in another forum is claiming to be a shop in AZ and is taking deposits on Amflow bikes, claiming they will be released on July 10th. 

Amflow PL Carbon is $7,499, and for the Amflow PL Carbon Pro, it is $10,199.”


A. I’m skeptical B. Being announced is very different from shipping. 

It'll be interesting to see where this goes. It seems crazy to me that manufacturers would knowingly cut themselves off from a big chunk of their market, I'd like to see the chronology around these decisions. I wonder if DJI will pull their drones, but still support their drive system in the US?

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I've brought this up several times, so if you are on other forums I apologize for the broken record, but how the F*CK can anyone ride a DJI bike that has no means of protecting the chainring? I wouldn't make it 1 ride without a bash ring/ guard. Yes, I know I suck, lots of us do and that's not the point.

It appears Crestline has handled this, but no one else has even considered it. This one fact alone leaves me on a Bosch (sans Crestline), which is a fantastic option. But still!

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6/27/2025 9:29am
veefour wrote:
If what FC is saying about DJI is correct no one in the States will be getting one, even if they are happy to wait until...

If what FC is saying about DJI is correct no one in the States will be getting one, even if they are happy to wait until next year.

A poster in another forum is claiming to be a shop in AZ and is taking deposits on Amflow bikes, claiming they will be released on...

A poster in another forum is claiming to be a shop in AZ and is taking deposits on Amflow bikes, claiming they will be released on July 10th. 

Amflow PL Carbon is $7,499, and for the Amflow PL Carbon Pro, it is $10,199.”


A. I’m skeptical B. Being announced is very different from shipping. 

I saw that too. I won't link to them but they certainly wouldn't be my guess as the first distributor in the states for the brand.
 
 
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I saw that too. I won't link to them but they certainly wouldn't be my guess as the first distributor in the states for the brand.
 
 

It was in today’s PB eurobike coverage, in a caption on the randoms day 3, with Seb Stott mentioning that Avinox and Amflow have been spun-off from DJI and are separate from one another as well. Perhaps to get around the DJI government ban? Perhaps this is contributing to the delivery delay. 

6/27/2025 12:55pm
It was in today’s PB eurobike coverage, in a caption on the randoms day 3, with Seb Stott mentioning that Avinox and Amflow have been spun-off...

It was in today’s PB eurobike coverage, in a caption on the randoms day 3, with Seb Stott mentioning that Avinox and Amflow have been spun-off from DJI and are separate from one another as well. Perhaps to get around the DJI government ban? Perhaps this is contributing to the delivery delay. 

That could be, would make sense.

6/29/2025 5:27am
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I've brought this up several times, so if you are on other forums I apologize for the broken record, but how the F*CK can anyone ride...

I've brought this up several times, so if you are on other forums I apologize for the broken record, but how the F*CK can anyone ride a DJI bike that has no means of protecting the chainring? I wouldn't make it 1 ride without a bash ring/ guard. Yes, I know I suck, lots of us do and that's not the point.

It appears Crestline has handled this, but no one else has even considered it. This one fact alone leaves me on a Bosch (sans Crestline), which is a fantastic option. But still!

Can you not just run a WolfTooth bash ring?  I do that on my EXe.  Or is something weird going on that would prevent that?

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Suns_PSD wrote:
I've brought this up several times, so if you are on other forums I apologize for the broken record, but how the F*CK can anyone ride...

I've brought this up several times, so if you are on other forums I apologize for the broken record, but how the F*CK can anyone ride a DJI bike that has no means of protecting the chainring? I wouldn't make it 1 ride without a bash ring/ guard. Yes, I know I suck, lots of us do and that's not the point.

It appears Crestline has handled this, but no one else has even considered it. This one fact alone leaves me on a Bosch (sans Crestline), which is a fantastic option. But still!

Can you not just run a WolfTooth bash ring?  I do that on my EXe.  Or is something weird going on that would prevent that?

Or the clip-on plastic SRAM one that goes on their direct mount rings?  I'm not sure what mount standard DJI makes but if it's ISIS that should be an option, pending crank clearance.  I have one I was going to use on my Fazua situationally, but the Praxis crank arms are so thick they hit the bash.

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Maybe the Amflow USA July release is actually happening. Was told this evening a shop in the Bay Area has 30 on the way. 

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Suns_PSD wrote:
I've brought this up several times, so if you are on other forums I apologize for the broken record, but how the F*CK can anyone ride...

I've brought this up several times, so if you are on other forums I apologize for the broken record, but how the F*CK can anyone ride a DJI bike that has no means of protecting the chainring? I wouldn't make it 1 ride without a bash ring/ guard. Yes, I know I suck, lots of us do and that's not the point.

It appears Crestline has handled this, but no one else has even considered it. This one fact alone leaves me on a Bosch (sans Crestline), which is a fantastic option. But still!

Can you not just run a WolfTooth bash ring?  I do that on my EXe.  Or is something weird going on that would prevent that?

I was told all of the options rub the cranks or motor or something like that.

But I'd be fine with that sort of solution. It's just weird that people are selling AM/ Enduro DJI bikes and just ignore this topic entirely.

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