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5/13/2025 7:35am

Oops, similar situation TQ HPR60 search and Yeti's new eeb just popped up. 

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The other levers that Hope do on Joe Barnes new bike (11th pic)

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What even is the deal with evil bikes these days? I saw some talk of them going tits up but they seem to have not, but...
What even is the deal with evil bikes these days? I saw some talk of them going tits up but they seem to have not, but it’s been pretty radio silent from them regarding anything new for a while now…

From back in March:

[ 3/18/2025 10:58am
 

https://www.instagram.com/share/BAQGYREHPB

…Dave Weagle visiting Evil for a Q&A then “off to Taiwan” ]

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5/13/2025 7:55am

Who’s going to do the screen grabs from the new Finn testing vid??? I saw a HR3 on the intro shot which was interesting and also seems like a lot of looks at the new brake. 

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5/13/2025 8:01am

Well, the master cylinder has a similar enough silhouette to some of the TRP's but that seems to be where the similarities end. The styling is unique enough when you look closely. Caliper is definitely different. Interesting bleed port placement

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5/13/2025 8:02am Edited Date/Time 5/13/2025 8:05am

finn on the new prototype specialized

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does anyone else hope the derailleur is fakeNews?

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5/13/2025 8:07am
nskerb wrote:
What even is the deal with evil bikes these days? I saw some talk of them going tits up but they seem to have not, but...
What even is the deal with evil bikes these days? I saw some talk of them going tits up but they seem to have not, but it’s been pretty radio silent from them regarding anything new for a while now…

I’ve heard they are alive and active. I think they know they need updates and are working on them just slowly. They are doing a lot event wise and media.  Can’t wait to see what they  are doing and hopefully a longer travel free ride/ downhill bike! 

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5/13/2025 8:11am
sspomer wrote:
finn on the new prototype specializeddoes anyone else hope the derailleur is fakeNews?

finn on the new prototype specialized

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does anyone else hope the derailleur is fakeNews?

As much as I want that to be the case, I don't think there's enough room there for a gearbox.

Looking at that second picture, I don't think any current gearboxes would fit, so unless Specialized is making their own...

Unfortunately it's probably more like Pivot's DH bike :/

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5/13/2025 8:17am
As much as I want that to be the case, I don't think there's enough room there for a gearbox.Looking at that second picture, I don't...

As much as I want that to be the case, I don't think there's enough room there for a gearbox.

Looking at that second picture, I don't think any current gearboxes would fit, so unless Specialized is making their own...

Unfortunately it's probably more like Pivot's DH bike :/

2 chains is becoming a thing...

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5/13/2025 8:37am
sspomer wrote:
finn on the new prototype specializeddoes anyone else hope the derailleur is fakeNews?

finn on the new prototype specialized

Screen Shot 2025-05-13 at 9.01.34 AMScreen Shot 2025-05-13 at 9.04.22 AM

does anyone else hope the derailleur is fakeNews?

As much as I want that to be the case, I don't think there's enough room there for a gearbox.Looking at that second picture, I don't...

As much as I want that to be the case, I don't think there's enough room there for a gearbox.

Looking at that second picture, I don't think any current gearboxes would fit, so unless Specialized is making their own...

Unfortunately it's probably more like Pivot's DH bike :/

 My money is still on that little pulley wheel "sprocket" doing double duty as a tensioner and drive sprocket. Clearly not enough room for a gearbox. "Maybe" a second chain. Highly unlikely but not totally impossible.
How awesome would it be if there was a chain hidden in there like the old three-chained Cannondale Fulcrum. 

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There was also a couple shots of the Ohlins shock in there with a view to see more of what they have going on. Electric valve on the HSC circuit. Maybe we are getting close to them sharing the info on it. 

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5/13/2025 8:53am
Who’s going to do the screen grabs from the new Finn testing vid??? I saw a HR3 on the intro shot which was interesting and also...

Who’s going to do the screen grabs from the new Finn testing vid??? I saw a HR3 on the intro shot which was interesting and also seems like a lot of looks at the new brake. 

That appears to be a Hillbilly not a HR3.

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5/13/2025 9:00am

That appears to be a Hillbilly not a HR3.

Duh, my mistake

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vid is private now 🤷‍♂️

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5/13/2025 9:40am Edited Date/Time 5/13/2025 9:40am

So it's just a cover on the chain from the cranks to the upper chainring not a gearbox. Probably to keep dirt out because it's so exposed and act as a chain guide. Also good e-bike development for motor and suspension. 

sram cranks are interesting. so it's either the SRAM DUB mount or new Bosch style ISIS mount and that's what is available. or its a new sram dh 7 speed rear. 

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This is what I believe is going on….


2 blue chainrings/sprockets and the red section of chain is concealed inside the “box”.   I wonder if it doesn’t infringe on the DW patent because the 2 gears aren’t vertically oriented from each other. 

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nskerb wrote:
What even is the deal with evil bikes these days? I saw some talk of them going tits up but they seem to have not, but...
What even is the deal with evil bikes these days? I saw some talk of them going tits up but they seem to have not, but it’s been pretty radio silent from them regarding anything new for a while now…
I’ve heard they are alive and active. I think they know they need updates and are working on them just slowly. They are doing a lot...

I’ve heard they are alive and active. I think they know they need updates and are working on them just slowly. They are doing a lot event wise and media.  Can’t wait to see what they  are doing and hopefully a longer travel free ride/ downhill bike! 

If they come out with a DH bike and don't call it the Undead they should be fired. Out of a cannon. Into the sun. 

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This is what I believe is going on….2 blue chainrings/sprockets and the red section of chain is concealed inside the “box”.   I wonder if it...

This is what I believe is going on….


2 blue chainrings/sprockets and the red section of chain is concealed inside the “box”.   I wonder if it doesn’t infringe on the DW patent because the 2 gears aren’t vertically oriented from each other. 

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I wonder if there's some kickback mechanism in there a-la ochain or sidekick. 
Not big enough for full blown gearbox but room for more stuff than just sprockets. 

Also surprised they're getting away with no upper guide on that chainring. 

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Lacanuck24 wrote:
Well, the master cylinder has a similar enough silhouette to some of the TRP's but that seems to be where the similarities end. The styling is...

Well, the master cylinder has a similar enough silhouette to some of the TRP's but that seems to be where the similarities end. The styling is unique enough when you look closely. Caliper is definitely different. Interesting bleed port placement

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Major overthinking here - but that banjo crimp fitting looks very similar to the ones used on the Hayes Dominions, not sure any others use one structured exactly like that. You have a sortof indention near the banjo end followed by horizontal lines, most others lack that indention. The lever adjuster is also similar to what Hayes uses.

May not mean much in either case, a rotary reach adjuster is hardly unique and I'm sure those fittings just come from a supplier in large quantities, but maybe worth noting.

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5/13/2025 11:23am
Jotegr wrote:

If they come out with a DH bike and don't call it the Undead they should be fired. Out of a cannon. Into the sun. 

Am I showing my age, or you showing your lack of age? 

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The seat stays and chain stays look pretty refined. Like production ready type refined🤷🏻‍♂️
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5/13/2025 12:05pm Edited Date/Time 5/13/2025 12:15pm
Jotegr wrote:

If they come out with a DH bike and don't call it the Undead they should be fired. Out of a cannon. Into the sun. 

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Am I showing my age, or you showing your lack of age? 

Am I showing my age, or you showing your lack of age? 

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Uh... no. That's precisely why they need to bring the name back. Sometimes companies have iconic and excellent names from years past that would totally apply to their new platform and instead call it something else. Or use the iconic name on an ebike. 

 

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5/13/2025 12:32pm
nskerb wrote:
The seat stays and chain stays look pretty refined. Like production ready type refined🤷🏻‍♂️

I’ve been saying that ever since Finn posted himself riding it on insta. No one agreed with me lol. It’s a full carbon molded rear triangle. Pretty production for sure 

 

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5/13/2025 1:14pm

Pretty underwhelmed TQ only managed to find an extra 10nm after what looks like a redesign of the HPR50. 
I was hoping they’d managed to get close to full power but without the pregnant BB areas of current e-bikes. 
Spose it doesn’t matter cause the 580 battery looks fat anyways. 

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Yoda wrote:
Oops, similar situation TQ HPR60 search and Yeti's new eeb just popped up. 

Oops, similar situation TQ HPR60 search and Yeti's new eeb just popped up. 

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It seems like TQ will release 2 motors

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Jotegr wrote:
Uh... no. That's precisely why they need to bring the name back. Sometimes companies have iconic and excellent names from years past that would totally apply...

Uh... no. That's precisely why they need to bring the name back. Sometimes companies have iconic and excellent names from years past that would totally apply to their new platform and instead call it something else. Or use the iconic name on an ebike. 

 

Evil name their bikes in versions, Wreckoning v3, Offering V2 etc, seems pretty obvious if they offered a new DH bike it would just be called the Undead V2 🤷‍♂️

But as mentioned previously they have been very quiet lately, I doubt a DH bike is high on their priority list. 

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5/13/2025 1:29pm
nskerb wrote:
The seat stays and chain stays look pretty refined. Like production ready type refined🤷🏻‍♂️
iloveloam wrote:
I’ve been saying that ever since Finn posted himself riding it on insta. No one agreed with me lol. It’s a full carbon molded rear triangle...

I’ve been saying that ever since Finn posted himself riding it on insta. No one agreed with me lol. It’s a full carbon molded rear triangle. Pretty production for sure 

 

They’ve been doing in house carbon mold protos for a while 

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breeden goes into deets about the intense M1 gearbox DH bike

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nskerb wrote:
The seat stays and chain stays look pretty refined. Like production ready type refined🤷🏻‍♂️

They have been using the Enduro seat stays on this and the previous iteration of the bike. Old one has sandwich hanger, new one has udh

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