new Bike Yoke electric prototype! A true AXS killer! Best non electric dropper going wireless🔥
Be excited about it, these droppers are gone give a biiiig push for the electric dropper market.
I got the chance to get my hands on the product and I‘m gona sell my AXS!
damn!!!! 90€ for a bleedkit (137€ MSRP!!)
i‘m also not a fan of shimano feeling wise and prefer my code rsc‘s.
interested to see the upcoming...
damn!!!! 90€ for a bleedkit (137€ MSRP!!)
i‘m also not a fan of shimano feeling wise and prefer my code rsc‘s.
interested to see the upcoming reviews on the new sram brakes.
..I have always been a Shimano Fanboy and I liked the feel of the new 4 Pot XTs..currently running the M8120 Levers with Cascade Components Slab Mineral Oil Caliper..really impressed and easy to bleed. Uses the same pads and looks sick..
https://www.mtb-news.de/news/eurobike-2023-bikeyoke-pirelli-twiceme/
new Bike Yoke electric prototype! A true AXS killer! Best non electric dropper going wireless🔥
Be excited about it, these droppers are gone give...
new Bike Yoke electric prototype! A true AXS killer! Best non electric dropper going wireless🔥
Be excited about it, these droppers are gone give a biiiig push for the electric dropper market.
I got the chance to get my hands on the product and I‘m gona sell my AXS!
not having a hot swap battery kinda kills that one for me, even worse that to charge it you have to remove it from the bike.
not having a hot swap battery kinda kills that one for me, even worse that to charge it you have to remove it from the bike.
They plan to have a battery life of about 3 Month. So thats nothing i would consider as a negative aspect. It‘s so much more worth it to be able to have more travel and be able to put it on pulling-lifts, not chairlifts only! I always need a rigid post for those parks…
Sounds like you’ve only ever had to deal with air in the hose. Once any gets in the caliper good luck using their standard kit to get rideable bleed in less than 10 minutes.
Sounds like you’ve only ever had to deal with air in the hose. Once any gets in the caliper good luck using their standard kit to...
Sounds like you’ve only ever had to deal with air in the hose. Once any gets in the caliper good luck using their standard kit to get rideable bleed in less than 10 minutes.
Did a brief stint at Magura UK. Done it all.
My MT7s have the chrome borecaps from an MT5e, for example.
not having a hot swap battery kinda kills that one for me, even worse that to charge it you have to remove it from the bike.
I speculate that they might, or at least could offer a pigtail charging cord that runs out the hole that the dropper cable would normally enter the frame at the base of seattube (I know not all frames have this, but a lot do). It'd have to secured and have a water tight cap, but that's not difficult.
..I have always been a Shimano Fanboy and I liked the feel of the new 4 Pot XTs..currently running the M8120 Levers with Cascade Components Slab...
..I have always been a Shimano Fanboy and I liked the feel of the new 4 Pot XTs..currently running the M8120 Levers with Cascade Components Slab Mineral Oil Caliper..really impressed and easy to bleed. Uses the same pads and looks sick..
Dual crowns won't lower the loads on the bushings, thus won't help the binding much. The benefit is the small difference in the crown twisting which...
Dual crowns won't lower the loads on the bushings, thus won't help the binding much. The benefit is the small difference in the crown twisting which otherwise slacks off the effective stanchion angle.
Going really slack the best solution would be either roller bearings (Lefty style...) or a linkage fork.
There’s a joke somewhere about never riding flat-ish trails with your super slack bike, but I don’t know how to tell it.
Adding a significant amount of power is always going to cost money. It’s not the same as buying some cranks just to make your bike look cool. If someone has the desire for more power and they have Shimano or TRP 4 pots or Codes there are two options; replace the entire brake set or replace just the caliper. Coincidentally that’s a similar cost. I think in this scenario we are more looking at cost to solve a problem and not how many parts you get for that cost because, again, it’s not just adding bling. If you like how your brakes feel and don’t really want to change that then calipers will do what you want. Plus you don’t have to reroute a brake line. I get that it isn’t cheap, but cost won’t be going down because we don’t intend to move production overseas.
Adding a significant amount of power is always going to cost money. It’s not the same as buying some cranks just to make your bike look...
Adding a significant amount of power is always going to cost money. It’s not the same as buying some cranks just to make your bike look cool. If someone has the desire for more power and they have Shimano or TRP 4 pots or Codes there are two options; replace the entire brake set or replace just the caliper. Coincidentally that’s a similar cost. I think in this scenario we are more looking at cost to solve a problem and not how many parts you get for that cost because, again, it’s not just adding bling. If you like how your brakes feel and don’t really want to change that then calipers will do what you want. Plus you don’t have to reroute a brake line. I get that it isn’t cheap, but cost won’t be going down because we don’t intend to move production overseas.
Or you can toss the codes/xt 4pots in the trash, buy a pair of mt5s for $200, throw in some galfer green pads for $50 and be done.
External cable routing is a huge win. Seatpost is 31.6 now too, I think previously it was 30.9mm?
Geo charts are Wrong I think, chainstays are 435/436.8 in low/high for the 2 smallest sizes, but 440/448.8 for L and XL
I find it odd that they go down in travel and even the burlyness of the build to some extent compared with the old AM, maybe its a longer travel variant coming and this is more of a replacement for the tr version? This one just in between aligns much better with my interst but racers tend to run more travel aren't they? They dont even seem to allow a longer than 571mm long fork in the specs
External cable routing is a huge win. Seatpost is 31.6 now too, I think previously it was 30.9mm?
Geo charts are Wrong I think, chainstays are...
External cable routing is a huge win. Seatpost is 31.6 now too, I think previously it was 30.9mm?
Geo charts are Wrong I think, chainstays are 435/436.8 in low/high for the 2 smallest sizes, but 440/448.8 for L and XL
I find it odd that they go down in travel and even the burlyness of the build to some extent compared with the old AM, maybe its a longer travel variant coming and this is more of a replacement for the tr version? This one just in between aligns much better with my interst but racers tend to run more travel aren't they? They dont even seem to allow a longer than 571mm long fork in the specs
on my AM29 I had 34.9 dropper
and some racers are going down in travel, rys verner won in Leogang on the Druid, Jesse Melamed was riding the Spectral for the first two rounds.
External cable routing is a huge win. Seatpost is 31.6 now too, I think previously it was 30.9mm?
Geo charts are Wrong I think, chainstays are...
External cable routing is a huge win. Seatpost is 31.6 now too, I think previously it was 30.9mm?
Geo charts are Wrong I think, chainstays are 435/436.8 in low/high for the 2 smallest sizes, but 440/448.8 for L and XL
I find it odd that they go down in travel and even the burlyness of the build to some extent compared with the old AM, maybe its a longer travel variant coming and this is more of a replacement for the tr version? This one just in between aligns much better with my interst but racers tend to run more travel aren't they? They dont even seem to allow a longer than 571mm long fork in the specs
External cable routing is a huge win. Seatpost is 31.6 now too, I think previously it was 30.9mm?
Geo charts are Wrong I think, chainstays are...
External cable routing is a huge win. Seatpost is 31.6 now too, I think previously it was 30.9mm?
Geo charts are Wrong I think, chainstays are 435/436.8 in low/high for the 2 smallest sizes, but 440/448.8 for L and XL
I find it odd that they go down in travel and even the burlyness of the build to some extent compared with the old AM, maybe its a longer travel variant coming and this is more of a replacement for the tr version? This one just in between aligns much better with my interst but racers tend to run more travel aren't they? They dont even seem to allow a longer than 571mm long fork in the specs
on my AM29 I had 34.9 dropper
and some racers are going down in travel, rys verner won in Leogang on the Druid, Jesse Melamed...
on my AM29 I had 34.9 dropper
and some racers are going down in travel, rys verner won in Leogang on the Druid, Jesse Melamed was riding the Spectral for the first two rounds.
Charlie Murray also racing and getting in the top 10 on a stumpy eco with a lyrik on the front. I think some riders are finding the lighter/shorter bikes fit their ride styles better when it comes to getting through 30-40 minutes of racing, even if it means sacrificing a bit of speed in the gnarliest stuff they’re able to save some energy and keep their avg speed up across the whole course.
I’m assuming he’s figuring his calipers are more powerful simply based off the fact Magura’s are temperamental, fragile, plastic landfill fodder.
This is my last little quip for the day.
I don't have any beef with the material used for anything as long as it works properly. I've never had issues with the material on Magura brakes.
Once upon a time I thought max braking torque was the only thing that was important. In reality all decent brakes have more than enough power to lock up you wheels. As much as I wish I could say I only ever break 100% or not at all, the reality is most braking happens in the mid-range. A brake with insane outright stopping power can still potentially result in hand fatigue if they way it ramps up doesn't suit the trails you are riding. I learned this when doing the Code cams. Was riding a bunch of steep stuff with good traction and wanted to quicken up lever throw without losing outright power. Worked great there and did exactly what was intended. Later got onto some lower angle slippery trails and found my hands were getting more worn out than with the stock cam. Turns out you have to make the sacrifice of higher finger force in the mid-range to achieve the smaller lever throw with the same outright braking power.
This is my last little quip for the day.
I don't have any beef with the material used for anything as long as it works properly...
This is my last little quip for the day.
I don't have any beef with the material used for anything as long as it works properly. I've never had issues with the material on Magura brakes.
Once upon a time I thought max braking torque was the only thing that was important. In reality all decent brakes have more than enough power to lock up you wheels. As much as I wish I could say I only ever break 100% or not at all, the reality is most braking happens in the mid-range. A brake with insane outright stopping power can still potentially result in hand fatigue if they way it ramps up doesn't suit the trails you are riding. I learned this when doing the Code cams. Was riding a bunch of steep stuff with good traction and wanted to quicken up lever throw without losing outright power. Worked great there and did exactly what was intended. Later got onto some lower angle slippery trails and found my hands were getting more worn out than with the stock cam. Turns out you have to make the sacrifice of higher finger force in the mid-range to achieve the smaller lever throw with the same outright braking power.
And just to be clear, I’m not saying your brakes are only better because Magura’s are garbage, I just truly despise Magura and have no clue how people are riding them, let alone recommending them and touting their performance.
And just to be clear, I’m not saying your brakes are only better because Magura’s are garbage, I just truly despise Magura and have no clue...
And just to be clear, I’m not saying your brakes are only better because Magura’s are garbage, I just truly despise Magura and have no clue how people are riding them, let alone recommending them and touting their performance.
Sounds like a well rounded; objective opinion you have there
Meta v5... finally we are seeing the end of "go longer reach" Some damn good rider at crankworx said to me: "long reach is a selling point for riders who are learning, such as kids, once you know how to go straight its time to go downhill " - he went on to talk about how its common to see young kids riding next size up frames or being on an adult size earlier than they should be.
By his "time to go downhill" reference is: DH bikes generally have shorter reach to stand the rider up so they can ride down steeper faster tracks.
I've been back an forth with reach on bikes in the last 6 months and spent a huge amount of money trying different bikes, the more i rode the more sensible larges(470-480) the more i realised Hes not wrong.(this is in comparision to larges going to 490-500mm. etc) (chainstay length at the shorter reach is the main benefit, shorter reach, longer chainstay has been awesome to ride, playful & stable)
https://www.mtb-news.de/news/eurobike-2023-bikeyoke-pirelli-twiceme/
new Bike Yoke electric prototype! A true AXS killer! Best non electric dropper going wireless🔥
Be excited about it, these droppers are gone give a biiiig push for the electric dropper market.
I got the chance to get my hands on the product and I‘m gona sell my AXS!
..I have always been a Shimano Fanboy and I liked the feel of the new 4 Pot XTs..currently running the M8120 Levers with Cascade Components Slab Mineral Oil Caliper..really impressed and easy to bleed. Uses the same pads and looks sick..
SLAB Mineral Oil MTB Brake Caliper | US | Cascade Components
Just my 2 cents.
not having a hot swap battery kinda kills that one for me, even worse that to charge it you have to remove it from the bike.
They plan to have a battery life of about 3 Month. So thats nothing i would consider as a negative aspect. It‘s so much more worth it to be able to have more travel and be able to put it on pulling-lifts, not chairlifts only! I always need a rigid post for those parks…
Sounds like you’ve only ever had to deal with air in the hose. Once any gets in the caliper good luck using their standard kit to get rideable bleed in less than 10 minutes.
Did a brief stint at Magura UK. Done it all.
My MT7s have the chrome borecaps from an MT5e, for example.
I speculate that they might, or at least could offer a pigtail charging cord that runs out the hole that the dropper cable would normally enter the frame at the base of seattube (I know not all frames have this, but a lot do). It'd have to secured and have a water tight cap, but that's not difficult.
lol, 530$ just for calipers… yeah, right!
not an option i would consider.
Seems they intend to make the USB-C port at the seat clamps, so that eliminates one issue...
There’s a joke somewhere about never riding flat-ish trails with your super slack bike, but I don’t know how to tell it.
Adding a significant amount of power is always going to cost money. It’s not the same as buying some cranks just to make your bike look cool. If someone has the desire for more power and they have Shimano or TRP 4 pots or Codes there are two options; replace the entire brake set or replace just the caliper. Coincidentally that’s a similar cost. I think in this scenario we are more looking at cost to solve a problem and not how many parts you get for that cost because, again, it’s not just adding bling. If you like how your brakes feel and don’t really want to change that then calipers will do what you want. Plus you don’t have to reroute a brake line. I get that it isn’t cheap, but cost won’t be going down because we don’t intend to move production overseas.
Or you can toss the codes/xt 4pots in the trash, buy a pair of mt5s for $200, throw in some galfer green pads for $50 and be done.
Both are more powerful than MT5s and you can still use whatever pads you want.
If you want best bang for your buck brakes got to go Hayes.
How do you figure Codes/XT's are more powerful than MT5's? Or do you mean they are if paired with your caliper?
https://enduro-mtb.com/en/best-mtb-disc-brake-can-buy/
I meant if they are paired with the caliper. Without I would agree they have an edge.
I’m assuming he’s figuring his calipers are more powerful simply based off the fact Magura’s are temperamental, fragile, plastic landfill fodder.
Meta V5 is out, 160/150 bike
Huzzah for regular cable routing!
New white 36 too
https://www.commencalusa.com/commencal-meta-v5-essential-2-c2x40031843
External cable routing is a huge win. Seatpost is 31.6 now too, I think previously it was 30.9mm?
Geo charts are Wrong I think, chainstays are 435/436.8 in low/high for the 2 smallest sizes, but 440/448.8 for L and XL
I find it odd that they go down in travel and even the burlyness of the build to some extent compared with the old AM, maybe its a longer travel variant coming and this is more of a replacement for the tr version? This one just in between aligns much better with my interst but racers tend to run more travel aren't they? They dont even seem to allow a longer than 571mm long fork in the specs
on my AM29 I had 34.9 dropper
and some racers are going down in travel, rys verner won in Leogang on the Druid, Jesse Melamed was riding the Spectral for the first two rounds.
Seatpost is now a 34.9
Its 34.9 indeed, you are both right
Day 2 video update from Eurobike:
Charlie Murray also racing and getting in the top 10 on a stumpy eco with a lyrik on the front. I think some riders are finding the lighter/shorter bikes fit their ride styles better when it comes to getting through 30-40 minutes of racing, even if it means sacrificing a bit of speed in the gnarliest stuff they’re able to save some energy and keep their avg speed up across the whole course.
This is my last little quip for the day.
I don't have any beef with the material used for anything as long as it works properly. I've never had issues with the material on Magura brakes.
Once upon a time I thought max braking torque was the only thing that was important. In reality all decent brakes have more than enough power to lock up you wheels. As much as I wish I could say I only ever break 100% or not at all, the reality is most braking happens in the mid-range. A brake with insane outright stopping power can still potentially result in hand fatigue if they way it ramps up doesn't suit the trails you are riding. I learned this when doing the Code cams. Was riding a bunch of steep stuff with good traction and wanted to quicken up lever throw without losing outright power. Worked great there and did exactly what was intended. Later got onto some lower angle slippery trails and found my hands were getting more worn out than with the stock cam. Turns out you have to make the sacrifice of higher finger force in the mid-range to achieve the smaller lever throw with the same outright braking power.
Looks like the new Commencal Meta V5 is officially out
And just to be clear, I’m not saying your brakes are only better because Magura’s are garbage, I just truly despise Magura and have no clue how people are riding them, let alone recommending them and touting their performance.
Sounds like a well rounded; objective opinion you have there
Meta v5... finally we are seeing the end of "go longer reach" Some damn good rider at crankworx said to me: "long reach is a selling point for riders who are learning, such as kids, once you know how to go straight its time to go downhill " - he went on to talk about how its common to see young kids riding next size up frames or being on an adult size earlier than they should be.
By his "time to go downhill" reference is: DH bikes generally have shorter reach to stand the rider up so they can ride down steeper faster tracks.
I've been back an forth with reach on bikes in the last 6 months and spent a huge amount of money trying different bikes, the more i rode the more sensible larges(470-480) the more i realised Hes not wrong.(this is in comparision to larges going to 490-500mm. etc) (chainstay length at the shorter reach is the main benefit, shorter reach, longer chainstay has been awesome to ride, playful & stable)