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6/7/2023 1:23pm

My brain is not braining right now. Either there is a hidden link somewhere or it has indeed flexstays (the silhouette of the seatstays suggests so). The lack of a rear pivot fooled me before but it's a very interesting design I admit. 

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6/7/2023 1:36pm
My brain is not braining right now. Either there is a hidden link somewhere or it has indeed flexstays (the silhouette of the seatstays suggests so)...

My brain is not braining right now. Either there is a hidden link somewhere or it has indeed flexstays (the silhouette of the seatstays suggests so). The lack of a rear pivot fooled me before but it's a very interesting design I admit. 

Since the chainstay is connected to frame through two links rather one pivot, I'm not sure if the whole design fits into flex stay because I guess that affects how the swingarm moves through the travel. 

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6/7/2023 1:39pm

Take a look at the Athertons bikes that are dw link6. They have a chainstay pivot. The way this moves through the travel requires at least some flexing. Careful pivot placement can make the flex very small, but present nevertheless. 

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6/7/2023 2:08pm

troy's vid about KIS stabilitizer

 

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6/7/2023 3:16pm
UfuS78 wrote:
I'm looking at this picture and I have a feeling that the new Boxxer will have a 20mm axle after all  

I'm looking at this picture and I have a feeling that the new Boxxer will have a 20mm axle after allSideways
Kade Edward%27s%2C Trek Session%2C Code brakes.jpg?VersionId=1

 

So if the lowers are compatible with the Zeb CSU we can build 20mm single crowns again! 

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6/7/2023 4:40pm

p4pb24924739~2

 

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6/7/2023 5:00pm
bski90 wrote:
 

p4pb24924739~2

 

They're onto a plastic shroud; I don't think we're ever getting a look at what's under it now (just like Bruni's mystery shock)

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6/7/2023 5:03pm Edited Date/Time 6/7/2023 5:04pm
bski90 wrote:
 

p4pb24924739~2

 

Looking at this photo reminds me of the deviate. Forbidden built an upside down Horst for the new druid, this kind of seems like an upside down FSR with a link rotating around the BB (like the Highlander or Claymore).

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6/7/2023 6:06pm
UfuS78 wrote:
I'm looking at this picture and I have a feeling that the new Boxxer will have a 20mm axle after all  

I'm looking at this picture and I have a feeling that the new Boxxer will have a 20mm axle after allSideways
Kade Edward%27s%2C Trek Session%2C Code brakes.jpg?VersionId=1

 

So if the lowers are compatible with the Zeb CSU we can build 20mm single crowns again! 

Definitely no.

they fit together but I believe the seals would crash into the crown by a substantial amount. 
 

The boxxer lower crown is much flatter and thinner than a single crown. 

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6/7/2023 8:25pm
Curly wrote:
Orange actually going to a linkage driven single pivot?! is the world ending?!    https://www.orangebikes.com/us/bikes/switch-7-se/2023

Orange actually going to a linkage driven single pivot?! is the world ending?! image-20230606083334-1

 

https://www.orangebikes.com/us/bikes/switch-7-se/2023

They have done it in the past and came back to the original design. Let's see how long this one lasts.

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6/7/2023 8:32pm
BenediktB wrote:
EXT just dropped their new dual crown fork. Designed for E-MX bikes though.

EXT just dropped their new dual crown fork.

Designed for E-MX bikes though.

Fred_Pop wrote:

I think it'll fit a DH bike no problem.

Jakub_G wrote:

With it being designed for 20inch wheels I somewhat doubt that

It fits 19 and 21 inch wheels. Modern Mtb wheels are 23 and 24.5in. However, mtb tyres are smaller so the overall diameter of wheel plus tyre for 650b (23in rim) is around 28in which is the same a 21in MX rim with a 90/100. So I think if you run 650b front wheel it'll be fine. If you want to run bigger then you'd need a custom crown. I think most riders won't do it due to the 4.5kg weight. I looked at the spec and it's pretty much a Manitou Dorado copy and probably way more expensive.

https://www.maxxis.com/us/tire/maxxcross-desert-it/

 

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image-20230608090606-1

Gamux Enduro bike

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6/8/2023 5:04am
 

Öhlins XC stuff released

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uina wrote:
Gamux Enduro bike

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Gamux Enduro bike

That looks bad-ass (wonder about mud in the seatstays/chainstays tho...)

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another pit bits gallery in the works. some early highlights as i build it (demo and pivot close-ups)

20230607 UCI DH WorldCup Lenzerheide H8A214220230607 UCI DH WorldCup Lenzerheide H8A215020230607 UCI DH WorldCup Lenzerheide Z4A084120230607 UCI DH WorldCup Lenzerheide Z4A0854

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6/8/2023 7:09am
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Öhlins XC stuff released

Yep, read our review HERE!

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6/8/2023 7:10am
sspomer wrote:
another pit bits gallery in the works. some early highlights as i build it (demo and pivot close-ups)

another pit bits gallery in the works. some early highlights as i build it (demo and pivot close-ups)

20230607 UCI DH WorldCup Lenzerheide H8A214220230607 UCI DH WorldCup Lenzerheide H8A215020230607 UCI DH WorldCup Lenzerheide Z4A084120230607 UCI DH WorldCup Lenzerheide Z4A0854

enhance

Enhance

ENHANCE

 

20230607 UCI DH WorldCup Lenzerheide Z4A0854 0

 

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6/8/2023 7:12am

No need for a bash guard with these covers at least. 

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6/8/2023 7:43am
Primoz wrote:

No need for a bash guard with these covers at least. 

Yeah, a piece of inner tube surely makes for a wunderbashguard!! Cool

 

Here is my Picasso approach on the system:

IMG-20230608-WA0003

 

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slimshady wrote:
Yeah, a piece of inner tube surely makes for a wunderbashguard!!    Here is my Picasso approach on the system:  

Yeah, a piece of inner tube surely makes for a wunderbashguard!! Cool

 

Here is my Picasso approach on the system:

IMG-20230608-WA0003

 

when you zoom in, there's definitely pivots on the yoke above the BB, and the 3 bolts behind the BB lead me to believe there is a link concentric to the BB

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slimshady wrote:
Yeah, a piece of inner tube surely makes for a wunderbashguard!!    Here is my Picasso approach on the system:  

Yeah, a piece of inner tube surely makes for a wunderbashguard!! Cool

 

Here is my Picasso approach on the system:

IMG-20230608-WA0003

 

jonkranked wrote:
when you zoom in, there's definitely pivots on the yoke above the BB, and the 3 bolts behind the BB lead me to believe there is...

when you zoom in, there's definitely pivots on the yoke above the BB, and the 3 bolts behind the BB lead me to believe there is a link concentric to the BB

So something like this?

 

photo1686236177

 

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6/8/2023 8:41am

similar-ish idea to old world force, just w/o huge rocker? or not even close? (i realize we can't see the details)

World Force VR-1 1998 | MTB-News.de | IBC Mountainbike Forum World Force VR-1 1998 | MTB-News.de | IBC Mountainbike Forum

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6/8/2023 8:58am

Bikerumor got a bit of the scoop on the mondraker.  one of the things is a modular BB shell to allow different BB locations:

 

image-20230608085738-1

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6/8/2023 9:05am
sspomer wrote:
another pit bits gallery in the works. some early highlights as i build it (demo and pivot close-ups)

another pit bits gallery in the works. some early highlights as i build it (demo and pivot close-ups)

20230607 UCI DH WorldCup Lenzerheide H8A214220230607 UCI DH WorldCup Lenzerheide H8A215020230607 UCI DH WorldCup Lenzerheide Z4A084120230607 UCI DH WorldCup Lenzerheide Z4A0854

jonkranked wrote:
enhance Enhance ENHANCE    

enhance

Enhance

ENHANCE

 

20230607 UCI DH WorldCup Lenzerheide Z4A0854 0

 

Well everyone is out here speculating on the shock layout, have we talked about how it looks to use the seatstay from the enduro? Always been interested by specialized running the narrower hub standard on their downhill bikes (135mm back in the day, 148mm now).

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6/8/2023 9:47am

I was thinking, could it be some sort of dw6 as well? Didn't anyone mention they can change the axle path with different links? Can't do that with a regular horst, unless they are swapping the upper link or the stays.

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6/8/2023 3:11pm
UfuS78 wrote:
I'm looking at this picture and I have a feeling that the new Boxxer will have a 20mm axle after all  

I'm looking at this picture and I have a feeling that the new Boxxer will have a 20mm axle after allSideways
Kade Edward%27s%2C Trek Session%2C Code brakes.jpg?VersionId=1

 

So if the lowers are compatible with the Zeb CSU we can build 20mm single crowns again! 

Dave_Camp wrote:
Definitely no. they fit together but I believe the seals would crash into the crown by a substantial amount.    The boxxer lower crown is much...

Definitely no.

they fit together but I believe the seals would crash into the crown by a substantial amount. 
 

The boxxer lower crown is much flatter and thinner than a single crown. 

Oh well, I can always just polish the 26" Lyrik and 36 collection and dream of what could have been. 

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