Interesting little addition to the Deity stem on the new Levo SL. Checked their website but doesn't seem to be an add on or option anywhere...
Interesting little addition to the Deity stem on the new Levo SL. Checked their website but doesn't seem to be an add on or option anywhere. Definitely cleans up the cockpit even more with the new SRAM levers.
Interesting little addition to the Deity stem on the new Levo SL. Checked their website but doesn't seem to be an add on or option anywhere...
Interesting little addition to the Deity stem on the new Levo SL. Checked their website but doesn't seem to be an add on or option anywhere. Definitely cleans up the cockpit even more with the new SRAM levers.
Meta V5 coming "end of summer" per Camille Balanche
Meta V5 coming "end of summer" per Camille Balanche
Now,
I am in no way an advocate for headset cable routing, but Shirley youd have to agree, that, from a distance looks great. So much so that the front brake line kinda sticks out like a sore thumb.
Sounds like commencal might’ve lost enough tempo sales due to cable routing they’ve learned their lesson
Sounds like commencal might’ve lost enough tempo sales due to cable routing they’ve learned their lesson
1. do we believe they are going to have two separate bikes (this seems like a long shot)
2. or can you run the cables either way depending on your preference, this would make for a cool litmus test.
(again, I think that bike looks great with the cables tidy like that)
3. I'm unsure how to feel about the exchange. Our current society has a confidence in their own singular opinion that sometimes catches me off guard. Im both astounded and worried that the feedback loop can sometimes be both to quick, and flexible, but here we are
1. do we believe they are going to have two separate bikes (this seems like a long shot)
2. or can you run the cables either...
1. do we believe they are going to have two separate bikes (this seems like a long shot)
2. or can you run the cables either way depending on your preference, this would make for a cool litmus test.
(again, I think that bike looks great with the cables tidy like that)
3. I'm unsure how to feel about the exchange. Our current society has a confidence in their own singular opinion that sometimes catches me off guard. Im both astounded and worried that the feedback loop can sometimes be both to quick, and flexible, but here we are
I would think they would just allow for both options on the same frame. If they don't offer you a 'full' top headset cover (without holes for cables) you'll likely end up with some pretty crummy bearings very quickly.
Sounds like commencal might’ve lost enough tempo sales due to cable routing they’ve learned their lesson
Sounds like commencal might’ve lost enough tempo sales due to cable routing they’ve learned their lesson
Also seems weird to design a bike that runs the cable through the headset considering the EDN uses Race Lab plates that would definitely interfere with headset routing. Which might be why Commencal could be moving away on the V5 Meta.
Also seems weird to design a bike that runs the cable through the headset considering the EDN uses Race Lab plates that would definitely interfere with...
Also seems weird to design a bike that runs the cable through the headset considering the EDN uses Race Lab plates that would definitely interfere with headset routing. Which might be why Commencal could be moving away on the V5 Meta.
Looks to be more straightforward, not worse. Brake hoses just go behind the plate. I thought that was one of the arguments for headset routing being superior.
I expect they'll just tell the factory to machine some cable ports into the production tubes? Doesn't seem like that big of a deal on an alloy frame and they can probably use the rubber grommets from the previous gen.
Loic talked about the new Specialized DH rig on the Gypsy Tales podcast and mentioned that their linkages can be swapped out/changed to affect how reward (or not) the axle path is. Might just be for testing purpose and won't make it in the production bike. But interesting none the less and will allow them to easily dial in the perfect feel on the test mule.
I disagree, not a single person in my riding group is down for headset routed cables, most of us would prefer neatly done external given the option between headset and external routing.
I disagree, not a single person in my riding group is down for headset routed cables, most of us would prefer neatly done external given the...
I disagree, not a single person in my riding group is down for headset routed cables, most of us would prefer neatly done external given the option between headset and external routing.
I currently run fully external routing (the dropper hose enters the frame at the bottom of the seat tube). The next bike will likely be the same. I asked Propain yesterday (for a friend) if the Al Tyee can come with cables entering the downtube port instead of the headset from the factory as it would be stupid to have to replace the outers, cables and the rear brake hose just to have a normal setup.
The problem is I, you and your riding group are clearly not the average buyer. The average buyer buys with the eyes, not the head. Through headset routing (for better or worse) looks better. Therefore it will sell more. Even more so if it will be the default option when speccing a bike - most people won't change the spec and I doubt it's possible to change it after the fact because of the above mentioned hose length issue.
I think it might look cleaner, so it works when seeing it online or from some distance.
As soon as you're getting closer you start noticing ugly proportions and poorly executed details. I saw an UNNO dash in person recently and the cheap shitty looks of that cable entry at the headset would be a dealbreaker even if I was okay with headset routing.
Those come from SRAM, not Deity.
See end of this article - https://www.pinkbike.com/news/sram-releases-stealth-brake-lineup.html
Definitely missed that bit of info when they came out. Thanks!
Bastard. I had forgot about that one.
Meta V5 coming "end of summer" per Camille Balanche
Now,
I am in no way an advocate for headset cable routing, but Shirley youd have to agree, that, from a distance looks great. So much so that the front brake line kinda sticks out like a sore thumb.
.......And dont call me Shirley.....
I’m not even going to quote your post Noah. May we never have to see that photo of Lord Bummer ever again. Please and thank you.
Sounds like commencal might’ve lost enough tempo sales due to cable routing they’ve learned their lesson
Spotted this one. Obviously it’s the old prototype but I never saw any photos of it with paint.
1. do we believe they are going to have two separate bikes (this seems like a long shot)
2. or can you run the cables either way depending on your preference, this would make for a cool litmus test.
(again, I think that bike looks great with the cables tidy like that)
3. I'm unsure how to feel about the exchange. Our current society has a confidence in their own singular opinion that sometimes catches me off guard. Im both astounded and worried that the feedback loop can sometimes be both to quick, and flexible, but here we are
I would think they would just allow for both options on the same frame. If they don't offer you a 'full' top headset cover (without holes for cables) you'll likely end up with some pretty crummy bearings very quickly.
But do we even see holes in the frame of Camile's bike? That's a prerequisite for non headset routing (unless it's all external??).
Maybe every bike comes with a drill bit.
In all seriousness it'd be interesting to see sales figures at the end of the year to see which version is most popular.
Through headset routed, for sure.
Also seems weird to design a bike that runs the cable through the headset considering the EDN uses Race Lab plates that would definitely interfere with headset routing. Which might be why Commencal could be moving away on the V5 Meta.
Looks to be more straightforward, not worse. Brake hoses just go behind the plate. I thought that was one of the arguments for headset routing being superior.
Perhaps the other option would be stick on hose/cable guides?
I expect they'll just tell the factory to machine some cable ports into the production tubes? Doesn't seem like that big of a deal on an alloy frame and they can probably use the rubber grommets from the previous gen.
Anyone have any intel on what Forbidden is announcing next week?
Druid v2 release
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Loic talked about the new Specialized DH rig on the Gypsy Tales podcast and mentioned that their linkages can be swapped out/changed to affect how reward (or not) the axle path is. Might just be for testing purpose and won't make it in the production bike. But interesting none the less and will allow them to easily dial in the perfect feel on the test mule.
I disagree, not a single person in my riding group is down for headset routed cables, most of us would prefer neatly done external given the option between headset and external routing.
Why the notification counter doesn't work properly... !?
I currently run fully external routing (the dropper hose enters the frame at the bottom of the seat tube). The next bike will likely be the same. I asked Propain yesterday (for a friend) if the Al Tyee can come with cables entering the downtube port instead of the headset from the factory as it would be stupid to have to replace the outers, cables and the rear brake hose just to have a normal setup.
The problem is I, you and your riding group are clearly not the average buyer. The average buyer buys with the eyes, not the head. Through headset routing (for better or worse) looks better. Therefore it will sell more. Even more so if it will be the default option when speccing a bike - most people won't change the spec and I doubt it's possible to change it after the fact because of the above mentioned hose length issue.
I think it might look cleaner, so it works when seeing it online or from some distance.
As soon as you're getting closer you start noticing ugly proportions and poorly executed details. I saw an UNNO dash in person recently and the cheap shitty looks of that cable entry at the headset would be a dealbreaker even if I was okay with headset routing.
Vorsprung has been teasing what looks to be a shock, and their latest instagram post hints that they’ve collaborated with sprindex.
Gentlemen, what are we looking at here?
Canyon's shapeshifter?
Yep! https://www.canyon.com/on/demandware.static/-/Library-Sites-canyon-shar…