2023 TEAM RUMORS

J-C
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12/29/2022 7:31am
jofish wrote:

It would be cruel for specialized to close all their contracts then hire a guy like Pilgrim.

smart business by specialized if so - they are down to their lowest Google Results In the previous 5 years(as of 2 days ago anyway) so...

smart business by specialized if so - they are down to their lowest Google Results In the previous 5 years(as of 2 days ago anyway) so someone like Pilgrim will Bring upwards of 500k Eyes into each video.   **note, Most brands are in the same boat, with lowest Results in previous 5 years.

However i think its Canyon or Trek.

FullSend wrote:
Truth be told: If people like Sam Pilgrim (social media clowns) would just vanish off the internet overnight, I wouldn't miss them. Not even a little...

Truth be told: If people like Sam Pilgrim (social media clowns) would just vanish off the internet overnight, I wouldn't miss them. Not even a little.

Kinda unfortunate that a guy this talented frequently resorts to putting out clickbait bullcrap.

It's brave that you were willing to speak your truth, despite knowing how poorly most people would react to it. While others are being supportive, accepting, polite, and worst of all, entertained... you're saying, "Damn the consequences! I'm going to call this guy out, no matter how spiteful I might appear." While so many are mindlessly entertained by the simple antics of the 'clown', you're calling him out. It's refreshing to run into someone who isn't afraid of what people think.

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12/29/2022 7:33am Edited Date/Time 12/29/2022 7:33am
jofish wrote:

It would be cruel for specialized to close all their contracts then hire a guy like Pilgrim.

smart business by specialized if so - they are down to their lowest Google Results In the previous 5 years(as of 2 days ago anyway) so...

smart business by specialized if so - they are down to their lowest Google Results In the previous 5 years(as of 2 days ago anyway) so someone like Pilgrim will Bring upwards of 500k Eyes into each video.   **note, Most brands are in the same boat, with lowest Results in previous 5 years.

However i think its Canyon or Trek.

FullSend wrote:
Truth be told: If people like Sam Pilgrim (social media clowns) would just vanish off the internet overnight, I wouldn't miss them. Not even a little...

Truth be told: If people like Sam Pilgrim (social media clowns) would just vanish off the internet overnight, I wouldn't miss them. Not even a little.

Kinda unfortunate that a guy this talented frequently resorts to putting out clickbait bullcrap.

Sam is actually the one of the only reasons I grace YouTube's mainpage other than music and video game walkthrough's. I find his videos entertaining hell. I'm sure they aren't for everyone but at least he's trying different stuff. 

I totally get some people aren't into it, but as someone who usually does care, even I'm hooked on weird Pilgrim videos. There's just something about a bedframe bike with a fox 40 getting jibbed. 

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12/29/2022 7:43am

Since Sam Pilgrim was in San Fran around 2 month ago, I bet he will be on Specialized 2023.

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12/29/2022 10:10am

Australia to jolly green 🌽 

norway is actually going to a Germany & Italy pairing 

krabo83
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12/29/2022 10:30am

Australia to jolly green 🌽 

norway is actually going to a Germany & Italy pairing 

so mille johnset to canyon-pirelli Smile

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12/29/2022 10:45am

Australia to jolly green 🌽 

norway is actually going to a Germany & Italy pairing 

Meier-Smith joining Thirion running double duty DH/Enduro since Carlson will be full-time broadcast team?

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12/29/2022 10:50am Edited Date/Time 12/29/2022 10:51am
krabo83 wrote:
didn‘t someone say earlier in this thread that SC is gettin serious about enduro racing for 2023? if so are they staying on full sram or...

didn‘t someone say earlier in this thread that SC is gettin serious about enduro racing for 2023? if so are they staying on full sram or are the switching to the syndicates sponsers?

I did guess that Jesse could be headed to SC now that they have some free revenue from the 50-01 guys. It also maybe makes a bit more sense in terms of their marketing now that all their 27.5 bikes are MX. But I was purely speculating for fun. 

Not sure if someone else might have said something more specific to EWS re Santa Cruz. 

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12/29/2022 11:04am

considering the tasmania races in march/apr and no WC DH starting until june, i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of DH riders go EWS (sorry, EDR) for the couple rounds early on. if for nothing else, as an excuse to go to tasmania to ride those trails : )

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12/29/2022 11:32am
sspomer wrote:
considering the tasmania races in march/apr and no WC DH starting until june, i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of DH riders go EWS (sorry...

considering the tasmania races in march/apr and no WC DH starting until june, i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of DH riders go EWS (sorry, EDR) for the couple rounds early on. if for nothing else, as an excuse to go to tasmania to ride those trails : )

what does EDR even stand for and what was wrong with EWS?

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12/29/2022 11:41am
sspomer wrote:
considering the tasmania races in march/apr and no WC DH starting until june, i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of DH riders go EWS (sorry...

considering the tasmania races in march/apr and no WC DH starting until june, i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of DH riders go EWS (sorry, EDR) for the couple rounds early on. if for nothing else, as an excuse to go to tasmania to ride those trails : )

krabo83 wrote:

what does EDR even stand for and what was wrong with EWS?

EDR EnDuRo makes about as much sense as DHI DownHIll. But, I suspect they wanted to make it a World Cup and not World Series, only to find out that EWC (Enduro World Cup) was already taken. The Endurance World Cup is a motorcycle racing series. 

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12/29/2022 12:09pm
sspomer wrote:
considering the tasmania races in march/apr and no WC DH starting until june, i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of DH riders go EWS (sorry...

considering the tasmania races in march/apr and no WC DH starting until june, i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of DH riders go EWS (sorry, EDR) for the couple rounds early on. if for nothing else, as an excuse to go to tasmania to ride those trails : )

krabo83 wrote:

what does EDR even stand for and what was wrong with EWS?

A podcast I listened to speculated that EDR will refer specifically to World Cup enduro races like DHI, XCO, etc does but that EWS will remain in use potentially for feeder and regional type series. 

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12/29/2022 12:16pm
sspomer wrote:
considering the tasmania races in march/apr and no WC DH starting until june, i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of DH riders go EWS (sorry...

considering the tasmania races in march/apr and no WC DH starting until june, i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of DH riders go EWS (sorry, EDR) for the couple rounds early on. if for nothing else, as an excuse to go to tasmania to ride those trails : )

krabo83 wrote:

what does EDR even stand for and what was wrong with EWS?

Why is everyone kicking off about the EDR thing. It’s just the uci code they use for the Enduro World Cup. We don’t go around talking about the DHI do we?

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12/29/2022 12:17pm
hogfly wrote:
A podcast I listened to speculated that EDR will refer specifically to World Cup enduro races like DHI, XCO, etc does but that EWS will remain...

A podcast I listened to speculated that EDR will refer specifically to World Cup enduro races like DHI, XCO, etc does but that EWS will remain in use potentially for feeder and regional type series. 

https://www.enduroworldseries.com/news/1965-ews-becomes-a-uci-mountain-…

"There’s some big news in the world of Enduro, as from next year onwards the Enduro World Series (EWS & EWS-E) will be an official UCI Mountain Bike World Cup!

Enduro will join the likes of Cross Country and Downhill at the highest level of international mountain biking competition from next year onwards, meaning all of next season’s events have been awarded World Cup Status. This is a big change for the sport, with the EWS now known as the UCI Mountain Bike Enduro World Cup (EDR). "

12/29/2022 2:11pm

So frustrating to see not even a single EDR date in North America. I know they need to have sites that want to host but come on there has to be some effort on UCI’s part to try and push this. 

 

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12/29/2022 2:11pm

You know, a silly season round-up podcast would be fun. Maybe even interview some of the movers after everything has settled out

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12/29/2022 4:47pm

Make of this what you will...

 

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12/29/2022 4:58pm Edited Date/Time 12/29/2022 5:13pm
dolface wrote:
Make of this what you will...  

Make of this what you will...

 

Gottem! Wrap it up boys and girls. Our work here is done. 
 

It means nothing other than Jesse read the thread and wants to keep the fun rolling. But damn if the sleuths are not super sleuthy on here, pinpointing his destination from a story. 

12/29/2022 5:33pm
metadave wrote:
Sam is actually the one of the only reasons I grace YouTube's mainpage other than music and video game walkthrough's. I find his videos entertaining hell...

Sam is actually the one of the only reasons I grace YouTube's mainpage other than music and video game walkthrough's. I find his videos entertaining hell. I'm sure they aren't for everyone but at least he's trying different stuff. 

I totally get some people aren't into it, but as someone who usually does care, even I'm hooked on weird Pilgrim videos. There's just something about a bedframe bike with a fox 40 getting jibbed. 

No question he is great entertainment. I just feel like he exists in the world of YouTube rather than mountain bikes. Riding around on his haibike or his bed frame or whatever is he really contributing to mtb culture? 
 

Also NOT saying I think what he does isn’t impressive or valid or that I think it’s a bad way for specialized to spend their marketing dollars. It will probably sell a lot of bikes. I just got the impression that a lot of their recently fired athletes were more grassroots or making a wider contribution to the sport than just selling product. 

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hreylalno
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12/29/2022 6:38pm

Matthew Sterling is off Conti Nukeproof. Stated in his Insta post that he doesn't have a program yet for '23, but I doubt that will last long for the current Collegiate Natl. Champ.

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12/29/2022 6:44pm

I think pilgrim will end up on Canyon based on these rumors…not trek or spec. Fits his brand way more and made up of a bunch of tricksters… and no Moir or Wallace on the budget.

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12/29/2022 8:03pm
Zuestman wrote:
I think pilgrim will end up on Canyon based on these rumors…not trek or spec. Fits his brand way more and made up of a bunch...

I think pilgrim will end up on Canyon based on these rumors…not trek or spec. Fits his brand way more and made up of a bunch of tricksters… and no Moir or Wallace on the budget.

I think Sam is going to end up on Hyper or Diamondback or one of the big box brands who make bad production bikes but provide a different bike to their athletes. 

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12/29/2022 8:13pm

Does Watsonville have some sort of significance?

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12/29/2022 9:53pm
mfoga wrote:

Does Watsonville have some sort of significance?

Nope I misremembered, I swear there was a brand there once

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12/29/2022 10:20pm
sspomer wrote:
EWS doesn't exist anymore. EDR is WC enduro racing read more here - https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/ews-becomes-uci-world-cup-event-changes-world-cup-dh-format-announced

EWS doesn't exist anymore. EDR is WC enduro racing

read more here - https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/ews-becomes-uci-world-cup-e…

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thx sspomer, but i already knew that the ews turned into the edr, just couldn‘t figure out what the acronym ment and now still sounds dumb IMO.

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12/30/2022 12:12am
smart business by specialized if so - they are down to their lowest Google Results In the previous 5 years(as of 2 days ago anyway) so...

smart business by specialized if so - they are down to their lowest Google Results In the previous 5 years(as of 2 days ago anyway) so someone like Pilgrim will Bring upwards of 500k Eyes into each video.   **note, Most brands are in the same boat, with lowest Results in previous 5 years.

However i think its Canyon or Trek.

FullSend wrote:
Truth be told: If people like Sam Pilgrim (social media clowns) would just vanish off the internet overnight, I wouldn't miss them. Not even a little...

Truth be told: If people like Sam Pilgrim (social media clowns) would just vanish off the internet overnight, I wouldn't miss them. Not even a little.

Kinda unfortunate that a guy this talented frequently resorts to putting out clickbait bullcrap.

J-C wrote:
It's brave that you were willing to speak your truth, despite knowing how poorly most people would react to it. While others are being supportive, accepting...

It's brave that you were willing to speak your truth, despite knowing how poorly most people would react to it. While others are being supportive, accepting, polite, and worst of all, entertained... you're saying, "Damn the consequences! I'm going to call this guy out, no matter how spiteful I might appear." While so many are mindlessly entertained by the simple antics of the 'clown', you're calling him out. It's refreshing to run into someone who isn't afraid of what people think.

People using the word "truth" where there is ZERO relevancy for that word, is the real clownbait bullcrap here. NONE of y'all know Sam and obviously have no idea of what he cares about and what he doesn't, so stop revealing opinions. Instead just enjoy a talented carefree motherfucker who doesn't need or want to be serious. Just stay cool or... watch Remy surgically dissect something, then make your bed nice & tight, and make sure your shoes match your outfit. ....Like mom taught ya.

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12/30/2022 12:48am

As far as I understand it EDR is a discipline, not the series. So national races are also EDR. You're an EDR national (or world) champ but the world series winner. Same goes for XCO and DHI.

Correct me if I'm wrong though. But (hah...) skiing has a similar system (DH, SG, GS, SL). 

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12/30/2022 2:23am
Tarhic wrote:

Rob Warner off Vitus ! Could join Pilgrim…

Anything to go along with this? Ain’t seen anything on socials etc.

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12/30/2022 3:40am
Tarhic wrote:

Rob Warner off Vitus ! Could join Pilgrim…

kevroberts wrote:

Anything to go along with this? Ain’t seen anything on socials etc.

He announced it in the last The Ride Companion Podcast ! 

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12/30/2022 6:23am Edited Date/Time 12/30/2022 6:25am
Zuestman wrote:
I think pilgrim will end up on Canyon based on these rumors…not trek or spec. Fits his brand way more and made up of a bunch...

I think pilgrim will end up on Canyon based on these rumors…not trek or spec. Fits his brand way more and made up of a bunch of tricksters… and no Moir or Wallace on the budget.

1) Moir was fairly cheap for Canyon as they got him when his DH options ran dry. He's said this directly a couple of times. Wouldn't be surprised if whoever they get to replace him would cost more. Interestingly Moir also seems to boost his teammates due to the popularity of his banter on youtube, so even better value for a team. I was never that into Porco, but I will still look for Party Boy's name on the results sheet.

2) I think people are thinking Specialized for Pilgrim because he is also off Continental (who he's been with for years) and not many bike brands are tied to a tyre in that way.

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