Even with a properly prepared 3D model/assembly where you only have to input a few geometry related numbers to change all the dependant models and have...
Even with a properly prepared 3D model/assembly where you only have to input a few geometry related numbers to change all the dependant models and have all of them rebuild in 3D with no features failing to regenerate, you still have to then export these models and/or drawings - models for 3D printing, drawings to cut the tubes to length I'd guess.
After you have the models exported (done by the design engineer/drafter/whatever you call the CAD guy/girl), they need to be prepared to be 3D printed by positioning them in the slicer, sliced, a printing file needs to be generated and the models printed. With untested models there can be a few issues that you likely need to modify by hand after the fact.
So it's not an easy process. Companies charging ~200 € for custom geometry on welded aluminium frames hardly get their money's worth, the cost is likely offset by a bunch of standard frames.
As for what Athertons do, I've already commented that it's hard to imagine their process gives any meaningful profits considering all the steps and manual work it requires on standard bikes, let alone the custom geometry bikes.
EDIT: all of this is just guessing, I'm not privy to the process (other than what we saw in the dreambuild video), but it's based of my (limited?) knowledge of using CAD software and having parts 3D printed for prototype samples during development in automotive applications.
Since you'll require lugs that are different to everything else they have in their catalogue, presumably custom geometry would require at least some additional structural analysis and optimisation to validate the changes?
Edit: I suppose custom sizing is pretty close to the same thing
If its overbuilt enough and you're staying within a certain envelope, it "should be fine". Until it's not 🙂
You could also argue that different sizes should require different kinematics if we're nitpicking. Though a frame failing is a different topic than bobbing a bit more than a smaller size does.
Regarding sizing vs. Angles, there's no custom angle option then?
They are really making it difficult for themselves still, with customcustom non-standard Re:Aktiv suspension - and bragging about it. 210 Trunnion... Hopefully it is possible to De:Aktiv these as well with a proper shock and spacers
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/fuel-ex/
They are really making it difficult for themselves still, with customcustom non-standard Re:Aktiv suspension - and bragging about it. 210 Trunnion... Hopefully it is possible...
They are really making it difficult for themselves still, with customcustom non-standard Re:Aktiv suspension - and bragging about it. 210 Trunnion... Hopefully it is possible to De:Aktiv these as well with a proper shock and spacers
That picture isnt the new bike, the element of that picture is "2020" the new one looks similarish to the vitus Escarpe or fuel EX-E
i think that was the leaked one awhile ago aswell? I hope thats a 150mm fork... it needs to be. but looks similar travel in front to the outgoing fuel ex.
Just saw Brendog on what I believe is the new Genius. It looks a lot like the bold trail bike but I think the shock is hidden in the seat tube, and by the size of it a piggyback shock might fit. The frame is black and green.
160 on the fuel ex? I know there's lots of talk of inflation lately, but if this isn't hyper inflation, what is?
Pepeprridge farm remembers when...
160 on the fuel ex? I know there's lots of talk of inflation lately, but if this isn't hyper inflation, what is?
Pepeprridge farm remembers when the fuel ex platform was 120 mm front and back...
Almost like every bike has just moved up a category - new Fuel (150?) is old Slash, new Top Fuel (130/120) is old Fuel, new Slash (170/160) is old Scratch. They just need to make a 'new' 100mm XC bike to replace the 'old' Top Fuel
though maybe that will be the new Supercaliber!
I don't think you touched on this in your interview with Kyle, but how badly does it suck when people on this forum send all the traffic to competitors that messed up their embargoes?
Looking lean in that podcast video btw, "Gordo" nickname is a bit harsh :D Great podcast
not to derail, but i used to get so offended when stuff got leaked early. now, it's just part of the game w/ so many people blowing embargoes and thankfully, all of you just scoop it up and post it here first!
Almost like every bike has just moved up a category - new Fuel (150?) is old Slash, new Top Fuel (130/120) is old Fuel, new Slash...
Almost like every bike has just moved up a category - new Fuel (150?) is old Slash, new Top Fuel (130/120) is old Fuel, new Slash (170/160) is old Scratch. They just need to make a 'new' 100mm XC bike to replace the 'old' Top Fuel
though maybe that will be the new Supercaliber!
Hey, it happens with cars too. Have you ever seen a first gen Honda Civic parked next to an eighth gen model?
so could junior retain his order or did the blow his load prematurely?
Always one clown. i guess context doesnt convey very well with the ones who have the red nose.
Just because you work in a shop with some insider knowledge doesnt mean you should be a dick about it. But i guess thats what a small wage will give you.
All the talks regarding Yeti’s next lineup are about the 120, 140 and 160 models. What will happen to the current 165 (that Cascade Components turn to 170)? Will there be a new 180 model? What about a dh-rig? Their 303 models were sick machines, especially the last one was nuts when it was released.
Always one clown. i guess context doesnt convey very well with the ones who have the red nose.
Just because you work in a shop with...
Always one clown. i guess context doesnt convey very well with the ones who have the red nose.
Just because you work in a shop with some insider knowledge doesnt mean you should be a dick about it. But i guess thats what a small wage will give you.
Edit: I suppose custom sizing is pretty close to the same thing
You could also argue that different sizes should require different kinematics if we're nitpicking. Though a frame failing is a different topic than bobbing a bit more than a smaller size does.
Regarding sizing vs. Angles, there's no custom angle option then?
https://gyazo.com/f64285bdcdba7555810c87c31afa6045
They are really making it difficult for themselves still, with customcustom non-standard Re:Aktiv suspension - and bragging about it. 210 Trunnion... Hopefully it is possible to De:Aktiv these as well with a proper shock and spacers
XS, S will be mullet, M & L full 29 I think..
We had so many thru shaft failures, Trek started sending out standard shocks as replacements (and no spares for 6 months).
Pepeprridge farm remembers when the fuel ex platform was 120 mm front and back...
As for the Genius, I think that had been more to less confirmed that all of them, including the Ransom, will have an internal shock.
https://www.atlantacycling.com/articles/trek-fuel-ex-2022-pg848.htm
https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/First-Ride-Treks-All-New-Fuel-EX,3964
Looking lean in that podcast video btw, "Gordo" nickname is a bit harsh :D Great podcast
Just because you work in a shop with some insider knowledge doesnt mean you should be a dick about it. But i guess thats what a small wage will give you.
Also possible yeti protos have been seen and are just similar enough to current models to fly under the radar