MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

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5/16/2021 11:09am Edited Date/Time 5/16/2021 11:11am
C-LION wrote:
The new YT Capra...an evolution, rather than a revolution? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/15/10794/s1200_3D8A5F8E_6172_4EFF_920B_C4BD7291B0D2.jpg[/img]
The new YT Capra...an evolution, rather than a revolution?

Here’s a clearer pic of that bike



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5/16/2021 12:48pm
C-LION wrote:
Some new spy shots from the new version of the Commencal Supreme DH bike. The bike seems to work when looking at the qualifying results of...
Some new spy shots from the new version of the Commencal Supreme DH bike. The bike seems to work when looking at the qualifying results of the Commencal riders at a local race in Portugal.




I like that not only the factory riders get the prototype frames (maybe also near production, i dont care). Commencal does an acelent job here.
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Trocko
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5/16/2021 4:31pm

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5/17/2021 2:33am
That’s their new enduro rig, right? Looks like they ain’t on the high-pivot bandwagon, still a vpp... Smile
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5/17/2021 5:26am
Something new from either canyon or Nukeproof

Probably new reactor


5/17/2021 6:07am
noeserdalt wrote:
Something new from either canyon or Nukeproof Probably new reactor [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/17/10800/s1200_Screenshot_20210517_152114_Instagram.jpg[/img]
Something new from either canyon or Nukeproof

Probably new reactor


Or something completely different!
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5/17/2021 10:28am

From Gamux IG story.
Frame doesn't match either their Runi or Marca frames.
Long travel enduro with double crown fork maybe?
5/17/2021 11:12am
noeserdalt wrote:
Something new from either canyon or Nukeproof Probably new reactor [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/17/10800/s1200_Screenshot_20210517_152114_Instagram.jpg[/img]
Something new from either canyon or Nukeproof

Probably new reactor


baronKanon wrote:
Or something completely different!
Or the new torque that has been teased
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5/17/2021 12:35pm
noeserdalt wrote:
Something new from either canyon or Nukeproof Probably new reactor [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/17/10800/s1200_Screenshot_20210517_152114_Instagram.jpg[/img]
Something new from either canyon or Nukeproof

Probably new reactor


baronKanon wrote:
Or something completely different!
Or the new torque that has been teased
Definitely not a Torque with those noodly stanchions.
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5/17/2021 1:48pm
Definitely not a Torque with those noodly stanchions.
And top tube mounted shock
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5/17/2021 4:28pm
That’s their new enduro rig, right? Looks like they ain’t on the high-pivot bandwagon, still a vpp... Smile
I saw Gwin out at a local enduro race on one of the protos. definitely a vpp
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5/17/2021 11:32pm
Seen on PAGE 102 from 28th march
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5/18/2021 12:02am
raozaki wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/17/10801/s1200_CECFF1E2_D7A2_47B7_A036_29CF6252C326.jpg[/img] From Gamux IG story. Frame doesn't match either their Runi or Marca frames. Long travel enduro with double crown fork maybe?

From Gamux IG story.
Frame doesn't match either their Runi or Marca frames.
Long travel enduro with double crown fork maybe?
looks like a gear box bike.
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5/18/2021 12:24am
krabo83 wrote:
looks like a gear box bike.
It says there "pinion", which is gearbox :p
5/18/2021 1:01am
Trocko wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/17/10802/s1200_7B1D5F3E_BEC0_4413_8737_0BB0EC1DB2F9.jpg[/img]

Fork looks small, like 150-160mm small. New version of Jeffsy???
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5/18/2021 4:27am
qblambda wrote:
Seen on [url=https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/2020-MTB-Tech-rumors-and-innovation,10797?page=102]PAGE 102[/url] from 28th march [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/03/28/10646/s1600_5CAE026F_25A4_445D_808C_8664B95EDF68.jpg[/img]
Seen on PAGE 102 from 28th march
Haha wow. If it was not for the Intense print scheme this might as well be a Santa Cruz.
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5/18/2021 6:29am Edited Date/Time 5/18/2021 6:31am
Vital Forum, better at finding leaks than a plumber.
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5/18/2021 6:47am Edited Date/Time 5/18/2021 6:48am


New BOS Idylle
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5/18/2021 6:50am

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5/18/2021 7:26am
Nice Sb150
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5/18/2021 7:57am
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/18/10814/s1200_F69C804B_B9F7_4D2B_81E3_D80032C00D45.jpg[/img] New BOS Idylle


New BOS Idylle
Manitou: we launched the stiffer, beefier 37mm stanctions!
RS and Fox: Hold my beer.
...
Fox: Introducing the superstiff 38
Rockshox: Now, let us look at Zeb!
BOS: Hold my beer.
5/18/2021 8:43am
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/18/10814/s1200_F69C804B_B9F7_4D2B_81E3_D80032C00D45.jpg[/img] New BOS Idylle


New BOS Idylle
baronKanon wrote:
Manitou: we launched the stiffer, beefier 37mm stanctions! RS and Fox: Hold my beer. ... Fox: Introducing the superstiff 38 Rockshox: Now, let us look at...
Manitou: we launched the stiffer, beefier 37mm stanctions!
RS and Fox: Hold my beer.
...
Fox: Introducing the superstiff 38
Rockshox: Now, let us look at Zeb!
BOS: Hold my beer.
Haha wow man it’s almost like they’re gonna do one with 40mm stanchions next!! That would be INSANE
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5/18/2021 8:48am
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/05/18/10814/s1200_F69C804B_B9F7_4D2B_81E3_D80032C00D45.jpg[/img] New BOS Idylle


New BOS Idylle
baronKanon wrote:
Manitou: we launched the stiffer, beefier 37mm stanctions! RS and Fox: Hold my beer. ... Fox: Introducing the superstiff 38 Rockshox: Now, let us look at...
Manitou: we launched the stiffer, beefier 37mm stanctions!
RS and Fox: Hold my beer.
...
Fox: Introducing the superstiff 38
Rockshox: Now, let us look at Zeb!
BOS: Hold my beer.
Soooo, does this mean there will be a single crown fork with 39mm stantions? Holy mother of Batman!!! And the last Bos, the inverted one, was a 220mm travel fork. And the previous, right-side-up 37 FCV was a 208mm travel fork. How much would this one be?
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5/18/2021 9:39am
Soooo, does this mean there will be a single crown fork with 39mm stantions? Holy mother of Batman!!! And the last Bos, the inverted one, was...
Soooo, does this mean there will be a single crown fork with 39mm stantions? Holy mother of Batman!!! And the last Bos, the inverted one, was a 220mm travel fork. And the previous, right-side-up 37 FCV was a 208mm travel fork. How much would this one be?
The DC 39 has 208mm of travel and it could be a great fork but its hard to get spare Parts from Bos.

There is also an SC Version with 39mm and 190mm Travel.


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5/18/2021 10:06am
Yeah, I heard horror stories about BOS servicing too.

But honestly, if you don't have 2 left arms and have a half decent garage, enabling you to service your own suspension, what brand to get? Intend?

FOX is notorious for a clusterfuck of servicing tools (expensive tools that change from generation to generation), RS is fairly OK, but has been dropping the ball parts wise - I have a C1 RC2 Lyrik, that looks to be a complete unwanted child (it's a bit of a mix and match of parts, not quite an Ultimate, but very much like it), shimstack specs for shocks aren't available anymore, there is a single spec rebuild kit for rear shocks covering all of them and including parts that aren't covered by the service manual, meaning there is a lot of leftover unused parts after the service, etc.

In this day and age, in a time where we should be making less waste and in a time where supplies are fickle at best, it would make sense to have a spec of O-rings and wipers that would be standard parts, then just specify the dimensions, material and hardness for correct operation. It's not like the parts used in the products are a completely special part, they are mostly off the shelf designs.
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5/18/2021 11:16am
Primoz wrote:
Yeah, I heard horror stories about BOS servicing too. But honestly, if you don't have 2 left arms and have a half decent garage, enabling you...
Yeah, I heard horror stories about BOS servicing too.

But honestly, if you don't have 2 left arms and have a half decent garage, enabling you to service your own suspension, what brand to get? Intend?

FOX is notorious for a clusterfuck of servicing tools (expensive tools that change from generation to generation), RS is fairly OK, but has been dropping the ball parts wise - I have a C1 RC2 Lyrik, that looks to be a complete unwanted child (it's a bit of a mix and match of parts, not quite an Ultimate, but very much like it), shimstack specs for shocks aren't available anymore, there is a single spec rebuild kit for rear shocks covering all of them and including parts that aren't covered by the service manual, meaning there is a lot of leftover unused parts after the service, etc.

In this day and age, in a time where we should be making less waste and in a time where supplies are fickle at best, it would make sense to have a spec of O-rings and wipers that would be standard parts, then just specify the dimensions, material and hardness for correct operation. It's not like the parts used in the products are a completely special part, they are mostly off the shelf designs.
I have no personal experience here but it’s been said that the DVO stuff is great for self maintenance and customer service, but that may vary depending on where you are...
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