MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

Related:
Prototype
Brian_Peterson 1/31/2021 7:49pm
1/31/2021 7:49pm
Brian_Peterson wrote:
I had to warranty a clutch on a new XT derailleur not too long ago.. They sent me 4 clutch units.. I think they know something...
I had to warranty a clutch on a new XT derailleur not too long ago.. They sent me 4 clutch units.. I think they know something is amiss.. Thankfully, it's an easy replacement..
Mtbforlife4 wrote:
I have a shimano derailleur to warranty, where do you submit your claim?
You need a shop to submit it for you..
1
Nico_Hrndz 2/1/2021 1:04am
2/1/2021 1:04am
Trocko wrote:
Arktos 150/170 pics and specs. Can change to 120/130 29, 135/150 29 and mullet, 150/170 29 and mullet [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/01/30/10471/s1200_0B0A1CAA_66E0_488A_BCC9_6BDDCE2B5322.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/01/30/10472/s1200_78B6EE3B_E812_4D59_AE91_7E26A53FD75C.jpg[/img]
Arktos 150/170 pics and specs. Can change to 120/130 29, 135/150 29 and mullet, 150/170 29 and mullet



"looks like a yeti SB150"

(It not. I'm just anticipating PB users comments for the release.)
1
Leo Molloy 2/1/2021 1:36am
2/1/2021 1:36am
It's more like the old Yetis. It's got an eccentric that changes direction.
SlalomSlayer 2/1/2021 1:43am
2/1/2021 1:43am
Hmmm ..... TLD - A3??
steezy geeza

So I Google search and find .....








jofish 2/1/2021 2:30am
2/1/2021 2:30am
LLLLL wrote:
12 speed needs a stiffer mount for the smaller tolerances.
I get that but why bother with the hanger in that case? If it's no longer a sacrificial break-away part then it seems about time to get rid of it altogether.
1
LLLLL
Profile picture for user LLLLL
Posts
298
Joined
8/30/2015
Location
IE
LLLLL 2/1/2021 2:36am
2/1/2021 2:36am
LLLLL wrote:
12 speed needs a stiffer mount for the smaller tolerances.
jofish wrote:
I get that but why bother with the hanger in that case? If it's no longer a sacrificial break-away part then it seems about time to...
I get that but why bother with the hanger in that case? If it's no longer a sacrificial break-away part then it seems about time to get rid of it altogether.
I’ve wondered that myself, guess it’s just a hangover. I’ve have bikes with hangers that cost more than a lower mid tier derailer .
1
Primoz
Profile picture for user Primoz
Posts
4572
Joined
8/1/2009
Location
SI
Primoz 2/1/2021 4:56am
2/1/2021 4:56am
jofish wrote:
I get that but why bother with the hanger in that case? If it's no longer a sacrificial break-away part then it seems about time to...
I get that but why bother with the hanger in that case? If it's no longer a sacrificial break-away part then it seems about time to get rid of it altogether.
That's what Sram patented. And the thinking is once UHD takes over the world, they will put out a 'native hangerless derailleur'.
1
Trocko
Profile picture for user Trocko
Posts
153
Joined
11/23/2010
Location
Rocky, CO US
Trocko 2/1/2021 9:49am
2/1/2021 9:49am
Forbidden new bike on 2/3/21


8
LLLLL
Profile picture for user LLLLL
Posts
298
Joined
8/30/2015
Location
IE
LLLLL 2/1/2021 10:07am
2/1/2021 10:07am
jofish wrote:
I get that but why bother with the hanger in that case? If it's no longer a sacrificial break-away part then it seems about time to...
I get that but why bother with the hanger in that case? If it's no longer a sacrificial break-away part then it seems about time to get rid of it altogether.
Primoz wrote:
That's what Sram patented. And the thinking is once UHD takes over the world, they will put out a 'native hangerless derailleur'.
Some bike manufacturers supplied direct mount hangers for shimano derailers where you didn’t use the b link.
Atkisa
Profile picture for user Atkisa
Posts
48
Joined
1/20/2016
Location
GB
Atkisa 2/1/2021 10:24am
2/1/2021 10:24am
Primoz wrote:
Where did the 'derailleur above the cassette' question go? :) (I have e-mail notifications, I see everything :P ) Yes, there is a good reason. The...
Where did the 'derailleur above the cassette' question go? Smile (I have e-mail notifications, I see everything Tongue )

Yes, there is a good reason. The chain is under tension there. Look at how well the front derailleur worked.
I answered my own question as I hit submit so I removed it 🤣
1
baronKanon 2/1/2021 10:46am
2/1/2021 10:46am
Primoz wrote:
Where did the 'derailleur above the cassette' question go? :) (I have e-mail notifications, I see everything :P ) Yes, there is a good reason. The...
Where did the 'derailleur above the cassette' question go? Smile (I have e-mail notifications, I see everything Tongue )

Yes, there is a good reason. The chain is under tension there. Look at how well the front derailleur worked.
Atkisa wrote:
I answered my own question as I hit submit so I removed it 🤣
Also, with the derailleur above the cassette, you would have to pedal backwards to shift...
1
1
krabo83
Profile picture for user krabo83
Posts
719
Joined
12/26/2017
Location
AT
krabo83 2/1/2021 11:30am
2/1/2021 11:30am Edited Date/Time 2/1/2021 11:32am
SlalomSlayer wrote:
Hmmm ..... TLD - A3?? [url=https://www.instagram.com/p/CKockztrkuj/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link]steezy geeza[/url] So I Google search and find ..... [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/02/01/10475/s1200_tlda1a.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/02/01/10476/s1200_tlda3b.jpg[/img]
Hmmm ..... TLD - A3??
steezy geeza

So I Google search and find .....








has already been posted twice.
1
Primoz
Profile picture for user Primoz
Posts
4572
Joined
8/1/2009
Location
SI
Primoz 2/1/2021 1:17pm
2/1/2021 1:17pm
LLLLL wrote:
Some bike manufacturers supplied direct mount hangers for shimano derailers where you didn’t use the b link.
That was a bit different, they tried to mount the derailleur further back and tuck it under the cassette more I guess.
Eoin
Profile picture for user Eoin
Posts
373
Joined
3/6/2015
Location
FR
Fantasy
53rd
Eoin 2/2/2021 8:16am
2/2/2021 8:16am
Vital's first ride review of the new canyon Torque:on has been on youtube for 6 hours, but still no article on the website, weird.

Anyway, my main comment is why oh why would you call out he-who-must-not-be-named in the video! Just how many trolls do we want to attract to these parts?
Primoz
Profile picture for user Primoz
Posts
4572
Joined
8/1/2009
Location
SI
Primoz 2/2/2021 9:12am
2/2/2021 9:12am
He who must not be named? In the beginning of the video or regarding the 29ers? And what am I missing?
bulletbass man 2/2/2021 9:19am
2/2/2021 9:19am
Primoz wrote:
He who must not be named? In the beginning of the video or regarding the 29ers? And what am I missing?
He who must not be named? In the beginning of the video or regarding the 29ers? And what am I missing?
He joked sorry Eugene for torque only being available 27.5. 😂
Primoz
Profile picture for user Primoz
Posts
4572
Joined
8/1/2009
Location
SI
Primoz 2/2/2021 9:23am
2/2/2021 9:23am
Figured it was that. Was that aimed at EugenM? Smile

Did something happen somewhere on Vital to make him famous?
bulletbass man 2/2/2021 10:28am
2/2/2021 10:28am
Primoz wrote:
Figured it was that. Was that aimed at EugenM? Smile

Did something happen somewhere on Vital to make him famous?
I wouldn’t say famous. Just a well played inside joke.
jonkranked
Profile picture for user jonkranked
Posts
1189
Joined
5/5/2016
Location
Norristown, PA US
jonkranked 2/2/2021 11:10am
2/2/2021 11:10am
stolen from elsewhere - cascade seems to be working on a brake caliper
Noeserd
Profile picture for user Noeserd
Posts
183
Joined
10/21/2020
Location
TR
Noeserd 2/2/2021 11:38am
2/2/2021 11:38am Edited Date/Time 2/2/2021 11:47am
Something new dropping on Thursday



willsmooth18 2/2/2021 11:43am
2/2/2021 11:43am
Noeserd wrote:
Something new dropping on Thursday [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/02/02/10482/s1200_146137857_10222536712980176_3255557889048466822_n.jpg[/img]
Something new dropping on Thursday



Isn't Capra the translation of "goat" instead of "beetle" ?
Noeserd
Profile picture for user Noeserd
Posts
183
Joined
10/21/2020
Location
TR
Noeserd 2/2/2021 11:47am
2/2/2021 11:47am
Noeserd wrote:
Something new dropping on Thursday [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/02/02/10482/s1200_146137857_10222536712980176_3255557889048466822_n.jpg[/img]
Something new dropping on Thursday



willsmooth18 wrote:
Isn't Capra the translation of "goat" instead of "beetle" ?
sorry capra is a typo forgot to change it with "something new"
Karabuka
Profile picture for user Karabuka
Posts
434
Joined
12/1/2011
Location
SI
Karabuka 2/2/2021 12:20pm
2/2/2021 12:20pm
Noeserd wrote:
Something new dropping on Thursday [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/02/02/10482/s1200_146137857_10222536712980176_3255557889048466822_n.jpg[/img]
Something new dropping on Thursday



Released on Thursday, available in 2025?
7
mixmastamikal
Profile picture for user mixmastamikal
Posts
85
Joined
9/6/2014
Location
Salt Lake City, UT US
mixmastamikal 2/2/2021 12:21pm
2/2/2021 12:21pm
YT Scarab would not be a terrible name for a bike.
3
Noeserd
Profile picture for user Noeserd
Posts
183
Joined
10/21/2020
Location
TR
Noeserd 2/2/2021 12:34pm
2/2/2021 12:34pm Edited Date/Time 2/2/2021 12:40pm
mixmastamikal wrote:
YT Scarab would not be a terrible name for a bike.
Rumor alert Rumor Alert


"The Scarab will be a superenduro beast to sit between the Capra and Tues - positioned head to head with the Giga. 180mm on 29, 190mm on 275. Jeffsy to drop to 140/150. Capra to go back to 160 but maintain the same platform for another year."
3
mixmastamikal
Profile picture for user mixmastamikal
Posts
85
Joined
9/6/2014
Location
Salt Lake City, UT US
mixmastamikal 2/2/2021 1:22pm
2/2/2021 1:22pm
The only new things I can come up with that they don't already have or over lap the current range too much are the following.

1. XC bike (Not very on brand but who knows)
2. Gravel/CX Bike (goes for broke with a 63.5° HA and 77° SA)
3. Shorter travel E-bike

Probably 1 or 2 though.



1
rockchomper
Profile picture for user rockchomper
Posts
174
Joined
12/19/2019
Location
Rancho Cucamonga, CA US
rockchomper 2/2/2021 1:49pm
2/2/2021 1:49pm Edited Date/Time 2/2/2021 2:22pm
Noeserd wrote:
Something new dropping on Thursday [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/02/02/10482/s1200_146137857_10222536712980176_3255557889048466822_n.jpg[/img]
Something new dropping on Thursday



willsmooth18 wrote:
Isn't Capra the translation of "goat" instead of "beetle" ?
Noeserd wrote:
sorry capra is a typo forgot to change it with "something new"
I called about my warranty part that i've been waiting on for over 7 months. hopefully they've listened and I'll finally be able to ride my YT again. Oh not that big of a revelation!
4
madsam9
Profile picture for user madsam9
Posts
59
Joined
6/11/2016
Location
IT
madsam9 2/2/2021 2:56pm
2/2/2021 2:56pm
mixmastamikal wrote:
YT Scarab would not be a terrible name for a bike.
Ancillotti's (a small Italian brand) enduro race bike is called "Scarab" so that would be weird
3
Eoin
Profile picture for user Eoin
Posts
373
Joined
3/6/2015
Location
FR
Fantasy
53rd
Eoin 2/3/2021 1:38am
2/3/2021 1:38am
mixmastamikal wrote:
YT Scarab would not be a terrible name for a bike.
Noeserd wrote:
Rumor alert Rumor Alert "The Scarab will be a superenduro beast to sit between the Capra and Tues - positioned head to head with the Giga...
Rumor alert Rumor Alert


"The Scarab will be a superenduro beast to sit between the Capra and Tues - positioned head to head with the Giga. 180mm on 29, 190mm on 275. Jeffsy to drop to 140/150. Capra to go back to 160 but maintain the same platform for another year."
That would be cool, my guess would a Capra replacement based on the Izzo design to accomodate a water bottle. 160-170mm 63 degrees up front.

Ebike could also be realistic, they need to upgrade to the ep8 at the very least.
2
bulletbass man 2/3/2021 5:08am
2/3/2021 5:08am
Bug or beetle would be a good name for a budget German e bike
2
Post a reply to: MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

This forum thread has been locked.