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andyjr77
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12/2/2018 1:11am
Yup, Marin and Polygon owned by the same parent co (Widjaja family out of Indonesia). I imagine that Minestone was probably just an investment vehicle to assist the purchase of Marin back in 2012:

http://www.cyclingplus.my/features/polygon-straight-out-of-surabaya

https://www-bikebiz-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bikebiz.com/.amp/bus…

In real terms, there can't be many brands/organisations with the budget to replicate the Atherton deal, so it **could** make sense they go to a new cash backed Marin setup. The only other brand based in Birmingham (seeing Rachel's IG posts) is Wiggle/CRC and we know there's a prototype Nukeproof Pulse out there that Sam won Garbanzo on, but do the numbers stack up for them?
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12/2/2018 8:48am
Primoz wrote:
Roubaix cafe?
LLLLL wrote:
Can we please stick to MTB rumors?

In other news, Gee Atherton isn't tagging red bull in any of his posts. He is even covering up part of the logo on his helmets.
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12/2/2018 11:25am
some interesting answers to "what other bike would you ride" from la bresse.
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12/2/2018 11:30am
@jaxsonriddle with a "thank you" video. @larsnbars comment of "buddy, so pumped" seems a bit telling, doesn't it?

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12/2/2018 12:55pm Edited Date/Time 12/2/2018 12:59pm
The mos interesting thing in the answers is that Sven knows of another Honda's location!!

How much of the Honda hype is the brand and the professionalism around the whole operation back in the day? I mean the bike might have been really good back in the day, but the technology has moved so far forward it's ridiculous.
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12/2/2018 2:10pm Edited Date/Time 12/2/2018 2:21pm
Primoz wrote:
The mos interesting thing in the answers is that Sven knows of another Honda's location!! How much of the Honda hype is the brand and the...
The mos interesting thing in the answers is that Sven knows of another Honda's location!!

How much of the Honda hype is the brand and the professionalism around the whole operation back in the day? I mean the bike might have been really good back in the day, but the technology has moved so far forward it's ridiculous.
Must find and dissect that Honda! The general tech may be better, but nobody has been able to actually do what Honda claims that theirs could do.

As an aside. Perhaps the pinnacle of my mechanic career was getting an interview with Martin Whitely inside the first layer of the Honda pits. Didn't get the job, thus the downside from the pinnacle.

Just to bring it back to rumors... So do we know if that was Gwin's truck and Tazer? The whole Buy in theory that got poo pooed early on really seems more and more likely. Gwin loves where they are. It's an American company open to new ideas... I mean, he's already pretty set up. Why not use the rest of his riding career building up a company that he can call his own?
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12/2/2018 3:06pm
Primoz wrote:
The mos interesting thing in the answers is that Sven knows of another Honda's location!! How much of the Honda hype is the brand and the...
The mos interesting thing in the answers is that Sven knows of another Honda's location!!

How much of the Honda hype is the brand and the professionalism around the whole operation back in the day? I mean the bike might have been really good back in the day, but the technology has moved so far forward it's ridiculous.
Big Bird wrote:
Must find and dissect that Honda! The general tech may be better, but nobody has been able to actually do what Honda claims that theirs could...
Must find and dissect that Honda! The general tech may be better, but nobody has been able to actually do what Honda claims that theirs could do.

As an aside. Perhaps the pinnacle of my mechanic career was getting an interview with Martin Whitely inside the first layer of the Honda pits. Didn't get the job, thus the downside from the pinnacle.

Just to bring it back to rumors... So do we know if that was Gwin's truck and Tazer? The whole Buy in theory that got poo pooed early on really seems more and more likely. Gwin loves where they are. It's an American company open to new ideas... I mean, he's already pretty set up. Why not use the rest of his riding career building up a company that he can call his own?
That Raptor is not Gwin's. it belongs to ASV Raptor. It is a company that specializes in aftermarket upgrades.
However, the Steber family keeps dropping hints. This is from Jenn Gabrielli' Instagram. She is Jeff's wife and Intense's head of Marketing.


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12/2/2018 3:34pm
What if the Raptor is the big hint and not so much the bike? Ford has gifted a few riders some Raptors. Gwin and Hart that I know of. What if this is the rebirth of automotive team sized sponsorships? Gwintense Raptor/TRPOnza?
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12/2/2018 3:42pm
Primoz wrote:
Roubaix cafe?
LLLLL wrote:
Can we please stick to MTB rumors? In other news, Gee Atherton isn't tagging red bull in any of his posts. He is even covering up...
Can we please stick to MTB rumors?

In other news, Gee Atherton isn't tagging red bull in any of his posts. He is even covering up part of the logo on his helmets.
His latest Instagram posts and those video things all have redbull in the photos including a photo of him holding a can in the photo...
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12/2/2018 3:56pm Edited Date/Time 12/2/2018 3:57pm
LLLLL wrote:
Can we please stick to MTB rumors? In other news, Gee Atherton isn't tagging red bull in any of his posts. He is even covering up...
Can we please stick to MTB rumors?

In other news, Gee Atherton isn't tagging red bull in any of his posts. He is even covering up part of the logo on his helmets.
His latest Instagram posts and those video things all have redbull in the photos including a photo of him holding a can in the photo...
His latest Instagram posts and those video things all have redbull in the photos including a photo of him holding a can in the photo...
I was wondering about that. I thought Red Bull was a for life thing, Blood in, blood out.
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12/2/2018 4:10pm
That taser didn’t have onza tires. He’s tight with EC, so maybe he’s buying into a partnership with hyper. His mentor Tomes did that in the twilight of his career with Doug Bradbury. Although they’re about the slowest to get a bike to market in recent memory
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12/2/2018 4:19pm
Can we please stick to MTB rumors? In other news, Gee Atherton isn't tagging red bull in any of his posts. He is even covering up...
Can we please stick to MTB rumors?

In other news, Gee Atherton isn't tagging red bull in any of his posts. He is even covering up part of the logo on his helmets.
His latest Instagram posts and those video things all have redbull in the photos including a photo of him holding a can in the photo...
His latest Instagram posts and those video things all have redbull in the photos including a photo of him holding a can in the photo...
Big Bird wrote:
I was wondering about that. I thought Red Bull was a for life thing, Blood in, blood out.
They´ve dropped athletes before. Tanner Hall in skiing for example.

If the Intense rumours are true, i can definitely see a big automotive sponsor stepping up to pay the bills.
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12/2/2018 5:45pm
Primoz wrote:
The mos interesting thing in the answers is that Sven knows of another Honda's location!! How much of the Honda hype is the brand and the...
The mos interesting thing in the answers is that Sven knows of another Honda's location!!

How much of the Honda hype is the brand and the professionalism around the whole operation back in the day? I mean the bike might have been really good back in the day, but the technology has moved so far forward it's ridiculous.
Big Bird wrote:
Must find and dissect that Honda! The general tech may be better, but nobody has been able to actually do what Honda claims that theirs could...
Must find and dissect that Honda! The general tech may be better, but nobody has been able to actually do what Honda claims that theirs could do.

As an aside. Perhaps the pinnacle of my mechanic career was getting an interview with Martin Whitely inside the first layer of the Honda pits. Didn't get the job, thus the downside from the pinnacle.

Just to bring it back to rumors... So do we know if that was Gwin's truck and Tazer? The whole Buy in theory that got poo pooed early on really seems more and more likely. Gwin loves where they are. It's an American company open to new ideas... I mean, he's already pretty set up. Why not use the rest of his riding career building up a company that he can call his own?
pillete wrote:
That Raptor is not Gwin's. it belongs to ASV Raptor. It is a company that specializes in aftermarket upgrades. However, the Steber family keeps dropping hints...
That Raptor is not Gwin's. it belongs to ASV Raptor. It is a company that specializes in aftermarket upgrades.
However, the Steber family keeps dropping hints. This is from Jenn Gabrielli' Instagram. She is Jeff's wife and Intense's head of Marketing.


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12/2/2018 5:58pm
pretty sure EC was involved in the building of the trails all these pros keep riding down by Intense, Gwin, and some of these pros homes. Could be a reason the two were seen in the same area.
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12/2/2018 9:51pm Edited Date/Time 12/2/2018 9:55pm
His latest Instagram posts and those video things all have redbull in the photos including a photo of him holding a can in the photo...
His latest Instagram posts and those video things all have redbull in the photos including a photo of him holding a can in the photo...
Big Bird wrote:
I was wondering about that. I thought Red Bull was a for life thing, Blood in, blood out.
Loki87 wrote:
They´ve dropped athletes before. Tanner Hall in skiing for example. If the Intense rumours are true, i can definitely see a big automotive sponsor stepping up...
They´ve dropped athletes before. Tanner Hall in skiing for example.

If the Intense rumours are true, i can definitely see a big automotive sponsor stepping up to pay the bills.
And Pastrana 'gave up' on them to ride a Nitro Circus helmet. It was quite a high profile 'sad to see him go' thing.

EDIT: wat is the thing that gave Honda the supposed edge? The gearbox?
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12/2/2018 10:52pm
I get the feeling mshuster is trying to tell us something. I don't think you have to be incredibly bright to get it.
a half assed version of #teamrumors is all i'm tryin to bring to the game...
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12/3/2018 1:34am
andyjr77 wrote:
Yup, Marin and Polygon owned by the same parent co (Widjaja family out of Indonesia). I imagine that Minestone was probably just an investment vehicle to...
Yup, Marin and Polygon owned by the same parent co (Widjaja family out of Indonesia). I imagine that Minestone was probably just an investment vehicle to assist the purchase of Marin back in 2012:

http://www.cyclingplus.my/features/polygon-straight-out-of-surabaya

https://www-bikebiz-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bikebiz.com/.amp/bus…

In real terms, there can't be many brands/organisations with the budget to replicate the Atherton deal, so it **could** make sense they go to a new cash backed Marin setup. The only other brand based in Birmingham (seeing Rachel's IG posts) is Wiggle/CRC and we know there's a prototype Nukeproof Pulse out there that Sam won Garbanzo on, but do the numbers stack up for them?
Couple things Mr Nelson...

Atherton deal is really not much - 3/4 season ago, maybe. Since then, their worth has fallen off of a cliff. I would say as a team they are not even top 4 anymore in terms of budget for a Bike Brand.

Second, Wiggle/CRC is not based in Birmingham. They have a warehouse in Wolverhampton, with a head office in Portsmouth and two separate locations from the original CRC setup in Northern Ireland.
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12/3/2018 4:17am
Couple things Mr Nelson... Atherton deal is really not much - 3/4 season ago, maybe. Since then, their worth has fallen off of a cliff. I...
Couple things Mr Nelson...

Atherton deal is really not much - 3/4 season ago, maybe. Since then, their worth has fallen off of a cliff. I would say as a team they are not even top 4 anymore in terms of budget for a Bike Brand.

Second, Wiggle/CRC is not based in Birmingham. They have a warehouse in Wolverhampton, with a head office in Portsmouth and two separate locations from the original CRC setup in Northern Ireland.
I'd say Athertons are worth more that they might be paid in terms of input they can provide with their experience to the research and development of new bikes.
This is also not necessary how world works Smile
Past year might not have been most succesful for Gee but on the last few races it was pretty obvious he still has the speed.
And dont forget that Rachel is female GOAT by far. ACH won more championships but in all other stats Rachel wont be beaten for a long time, considering she is still on top of her game.
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12/3/2018 7:42am
Annika Langvad Will be staying with SFR for 2019 along with doing select road events with Boels Dolmanns.
Confirmed Specialized factory Racing team so far-
Sam Gaze (NZL)
Christopher Blevins (USA)
Annika Langvad (NED)

Downhill
Loic Bruni (FR)

Enduro
Jared Graves (AUS)?
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12/3/2018 7:49am
Confirmed and yet a question mark after Graves?

At least commit to your statements haha
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12/3/2018 8:31am
danposs86 wrote:
Confirmed and yet a question mark after Graves?

At least commit to your statements haha
I believe his contract was for 3 years. But with his current situation, anything could happen.
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12/3/2018 8:53am
Annika Langvad Will be staying with SFR for 2019 along with doing select road events with Boels Dolmanns. Confirmed Specialized factory Racing team so far- Sam...
Annika Langvad Will be staying with SFR for 2019 along with doing select road events with Boels Dolmanns.
Confirmed Specialized factory Racing team so far-
Sam Gaze (NZL)
Christopher Blevins (USA)
Annika Langvad (NED)

Downhill
Loic Bruni (FR)

Enduro
Jared Graves (AUS)?
You forget Finn?
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12/3/2018 10:01am
His latest Instagram posts and those video things all have redbull in the photos including a photo of him holding a can in the photo...
His latest Instagram posts and those video things all have redbull in the photos including a photo of him holding a can in the photo...
Big Bird wrote:
I was wondering about that. I thought Red Bull was a for life thing, Blood in, blood out.
Loki87 wrote:
They´ve dropped athletes before. Tanner Hall in skiing for example. If the Intense rumours are true, i can definitely see a big automotive sponsor stepping up...
They´ve dropped athletes before. Tanner Hall in skiing for example.

If the Intense rumours are true, i can definitely see a big automotive sponsor stepping up to pay the bills.
I have a hard time seeing an automotive company stepping in, well Ford (Raptor) at least. World Rally has a very large following worldwide and Ford just lost Seb Ogier to Citroen because Ford wouldn't pony up a few million to match the Citroen offer, and that's auto racing... I have a hard time seeing them paying a mountain biker, granted it would be for quite a bit less money, but still.
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12/3/2018 10:28am
Poleczechy wrote:
I have a hard time seeing an automotive company stepping in, well Ford (Raptor) at least. World Rally has a very large following worldwide and Ford...
I have a hard time seeing an automotive company stepping in, well Ford (Raptor) at least. World Rally has a very large following worldwide and Ford just lost Seb Ogier to Citroen because Ford wouldn't pony up a few million to match the Citroen offer, and that's auto racing... I have a hard time seeing them paying a mountain biker, granted it would be for quite a bit less money, but still.
Wild guess here but Toyota? They have their name plastered in just about every other sport.
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12/3/2018 10:59am
GA902 wrote:
Wild guess here but Toyota? They have their name plastered in just about every other sport.
Been to a trailhead lately? Their name was plastered across this sport for free!
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12/3/2018 11:31am Edited Date/Time 12/3/2018 11:32am
The Athertons have been dropped by hope for unprofessional behaviour.

Turns out it is not a good idea calling in sick for a meet the pros day organised by hope, which at least one of athertons was contractually obliged to attend. Only to then be seen on Instagram the very same day riding in wales.

Renthal are only interested in Kade, the marketing manager is a friend of Kade's dad the former mbuk pinner Tom Edwards



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12/3/2018 11:54am
The Athertons have been dropped by hope for unprofessional behaviour. Turns out it is not a good idea calling in sick for a meet the pros...
The Athertons have been dropped by hope for unprofessional behaviour.

Turns out it is not a good idea calling in sick for a meet the pros day organised by hope, which at least one of athertons was contractually obliged to attend. Only to then be seen on Instagram the very same day riding in wales.

Renthal are only interested in Kade, the marketing manager is a friend of Kade's dad the former mbuk pinner Tom Edwards



Source?
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12/3/2018 11:56am
GA902 wrote:
Wild guess here but Toyota? They have their name plastered in just about every other sport.
hd4rider wrote:
Been to a trailhead lately? Their name was plastered across this sport for free!
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12/3/2018 12:29pm
Jack Reading and his one vision team moving to commencal frames and suntour suspension.
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