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Japan making a ton of cool kit and not exporting it is easily shown by the JDM automotive market. That's the most visible and known tip of this cool shit iceberg. Electronics have a similar situation (their smart phones 20 years ago were bonkers). We will likely never know what else they made in more niche areas.
Does anyone have a program or a good way to compare different runs with motion instruments data? Right now I just go between runs and try to remember but I see some guys with graphs and charts.
Thanks!
Hello @carlinojoevide,
happy new year!
I don't know how you can export the files... but with BYB Telemetry you can compare two runs.
You can compare all the lines, all the histograms, the rider's trajectories, and more.
From the latest release, you can also wedge the 2nd run over the 1st run in order to get the best alignament.
Dang, that’s pretty cool!
Hi all,
I wanted to jump in here and let everyone know that i am offering data acquisition services for MTB and Motos using the Motions Instruments system. I have over 15 years of experience data logging bicycles. I used both Aims and Cosworth motorsports system and they are great. they can allow to record and analyse all kinds of data (brake pressure, accelerations at the chassis, forks and rear suspension and a lot more) which is very useful when developing a bike.
But for good and accurate suspension setup the motions instruments is great. it's small, wireless and doesn't add a significant amount of weight to the bikes.
Obtaining the data is just one of the aspects, interpreting the data and rider feedback is what truly allows to achieve a really good setup
I had a session with @calinojoevideo which i ma sure he can vouch for my expertise. See you at Spyder mountain soon.
I am currently in Florida and will be heading to the Ocala and Santos trails area.
Interested in getting your bike setup? message me here or on instagram @El_Kinematico
Luis Arraiz
+1 for Luis if anyone has time to work with him. I’ve learned a lot from him and hope to do more testing in the future.
He’s a modest guy but he’s the designer of many iconic DH bikes that we all know, from K-Nine, GT and Cannondale. Stoked he checked in here!
What do you charge for a training session? Would love to learn how I can better use the software
Hello @longfellow
thanks for you message! Send us an email at info@bybtech.it
Best
Enrico
Is it possible to buy this version on the computer? Never use the other adaptors/ports, and a frame mounted battery computer would be much better, also I like the straight (rather than 90 degree) connectors
Yes, that's possible. Email us: info@bybtech.it
And check this out (Finn's bike): custom unit with 5 connectors
That new box is looking really clean! Does it offer the same data and battery as the bigger version?
Hello!
This is a custom version. It can be available in 3, 5 or 8 connector versions.
The battery is smaller than the current V2 version, but charging time is faster. You can run 8/9 hours of sampling without issues.
That’s really cool!
so if I was only interested in fork and shock data I could get 3 port, and if I want fork, shock brakes, it’s the 5?
is this system same price or different than what’s currently offered?
Exactly!
If you want more stuff (like extra external accelerometers) you can combine the sensors as you wish.
Since these systems are custom made, they generally costs a little bit more. But email us for all the info: info@bybtech.it
For example here, Angelo Pellegrini (prr SX rider) is running the 3 connectors version on his Supercross bike:
New system from motion instruments is now available. Easier to install and less expensive.
Doesn't work w/ EXT forks, so does that mean Manitou isn't supported either?
Still seems like a killer product, ~$USD150 more than a ShoickWiz and way more sophisticated.
Massive shoutout to Rob for this. It looks awesome and fixes the annoying rear sensor issue! Looking forward to getting my hands on one!
What stops it from working on EXT? It does look like they did an awesome job on it! super clever design and mounting methods
Based on comments in the tech rumors thread, not much. The valve is just used as an attachment point and EXT's double valves are in the wrong spots. I'd guess it should be pretty easy to come up w/ a solution...
Agreed. I would think drilling an offset hole in the metal tab to align with one of the two valves should do the trick.
Found this on their site:
https://motioninstruments.com/products/system-2
"We do not support EXT or traditional coil spring forks. While you can modify our system to fit these, we will not warranty if the product is damaged being used on unsupported forks."
Ah yes I figured I should RTFW and saw that....also could have walked the 2 steps to an EXT fork on the wall to figured it out....
Should be easy to work around with an adpator cap. I think a pass-through valve cap would be cool for these as well, so you don't mess with the sensor mount when changing pressure
I’m definitely getting one of these as long as there’s a way to adapt it to my EXT ERA. Hopefully someone will come up with a solution to offer for sale
I have the old tracer sensor I mount with double sided 3M tape using the old DH mount. You could do this on the EXT Era. I just cut the little piece of aluminum and drilled a hole in it. I actually prefer it this way because then you don’t have the sensor flipping around when changing air pressure and you don’t need to recalibrate each time you adjust air.
I wonder if there’s enough thread on the valve stem to put on a finger nut (similar to the ones that hold presta stems in place) to hold the mount, and still have enough threads to engage the shock pump?
On the old version it sits flush with the top cap and the cap threads down into the valve, It wouldn’t be able to use both at the same time.
Sounds like an opportunity for peeps w/ 3d printing skills to make some stuff (and hopefully open-sourcing it to add to this: https://motioninstruments.com/pages/diy)
Been researching the new Motion Instruments kit and think I understand things. I run rebound at enduro pro speeds because I know that's what I need, look for a trail feature and setup that will let me generation a compression shaft speed close to pro numbers, let whether I can hold onto the bike or generate that speed affect my self-esteem, and, if I can do either, incessantly stat-drop in forums. Only thing I can't figure out is how to share all my set-up sessions with the world. The strava integration bit doesn't seem to allow for that?
. . . just bumping this thread in hopes some people would be wiling to share their experiences with the new MI kit. Always awesome and educational to hear from the pros and suspension nerds, but would also be great to hear from a non-"engineer" as to how hard it's been to figure this thing out and make your setup materially better. Someone of moderate intelligence but extraordinary stubbornness would be perfect.
Well the new MI stuff got pushed back due to some production gremlins. So I'm not sure anyones running it yet. As soon as I get mine I'll give an update.
Though from what he said in his latest email, sounds like the data that the v2 is much more accurate the the v1 as measured from a dyno so I'm really excited to see what the data says about things going forward!
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