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Primoz Liked a reply to forum topic John Hall (Gwin's Mechanic) on Spoke Tension

4/9/2023 9:30pm
When I initially mentioned the 'hanging from the top' stance, it of course doesn't mean 'only the top few, all the rest are there just for show'. The system part is the key here and a spoked wheel really is a marvel of engineering considering how strong and light it is. But yeah, apparently the hanging from the top is not that much of a thing. As for the stress-strain graph, young's modulus is a part of it, but that only covers the material itself. Steel (210 GPa) has a steeper slope than titanium (120 GPA) that has a steeper...
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noideamtber Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

4/8/2023 11:54pm
You wont need to worry about the headset routing as The shop will deal with it when they replaced the cracked frame note: ive broken 3 commencals in a year.
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Rossfeld-biker Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

4/8/2023 11:54pm
There are two Commencal Teams racing EDR Worldcup, the Enduro Project Team is still on last years prototype with TRP Components and normal cable routing. The second team, Commencal les Orres, seams to be on new Frames with new Sram stuff and headset cable routing. There is a bike check on insta that clearly shows the new Frame. I'm quiet sure that this will be the production frame. For me the meta V5 is one of the most interesting new bikes of the year, but I'm not sure if I want a bike with headset cable routing, because I want...
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dolface Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

4/8/2023 11:53pm
Rascal is due for an update but fwiw a dealer told me it's an updated Ranger...
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Glenngineer Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

4/8/2023 11:53pm
And you know some bloated consultant that rides 8 hours a year is going to buy it and crush his bottom bracket torquing it on with the longest wrench he can find.
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ShapeThings Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

4/8/2023 11:52pm
Maybe the most absurd thing I've ever seen. I'm not against small batch, boutique parts, but anyone spending that money on something so frivilous needs to be audited and forced into buying food for the needy or something.
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readochris Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

4/8/2023 11:52pm
Yeh that’s right. I’ve been seeing over the summer (our southern summer) that he hasn’t had it on and obviously not on any other athletes it seems this season. Just curious as it seemed targeted as a racing product but the top racers don’t seem to be running it.
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Glenngineer Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

4/8/2023 11:52pm
Can we talk about how this sport has completely jumped the shark for a second? OEM parts is $4. This doesn't even come in blingy colors.
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SteveClimber Liked a reply to forum topic John Hall (Gwin's Mechanic) on Spoke Tension

4/8/2023 11:49pm
I watched the park tool spoke tension video, super super interesting. The whole "hub hangs from the spokes" view of a wheel is totally wrong. Its clear the wheel is a system, and when statically loaded (i.e just standing on the bike) the rim WILL flex at the bottom, dropping spoke tension on those spokes (since the ERD has reduced) BUT, that tension must be accounted for elsewhere in the wheel, hence we see spoke tension INCREASE at the sides (exactly like the coffee cup explanation, kudos to thinking of that). The pedalling scenario is exaclty what I thought it...
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Primoz Liked a reply to forum topic John Hall (Gwin's Mechanic) on Spoke Tension

4/8/2023 11:49pm
I was trying to find a video of someone destroying a wheel (pulling multiple spokes) to see where it actually fails. Found one: Looks like there is something to the coffee cup thing after all. THe spokes that failed are right next to (behind) the point of impact and the rim cracking. Where's that hat?
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TEAMROBOT Added a reply to How Much Reach is Too Much Reach?

4/8/2023 5:54pm
In my experience, longer reach setups require higher bars to get a similar bike feel as shorter reach/lower bar setups, assuming you liked your front to rear balance on the shorter reach bike. So when I'm on a shorter bike, it typically has slightly lower bars, and vice versa. So Primoz, your experience lines up with mine. If I swap...

Primoz Liked a reply to forum topic How Much Reach is Too Much Reach?

4/8/2023 5:50pm
The reason I'm asking I've now done two rides on a 55 mm rise bar instead of the previous 35 mm and I moved a 1 cm spacer from above the stem to below the stem (additional rise). And added a 35 mm step to replace the original 40 mm, but that was caused by a necessity, it wasn't done intentionally. oupled with a bigger upsweep and backsweep angle, the grips are quite a few cm higher and a bit more backwards as well. The bike does have a fairly short headtube, 120 mm in XL, so the grips weren't...
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SteveClimber Liked a reply to forum topic John Hall (Gwin's Mechanic) on Spoke Tension

4/7/2023 7:00pm
WT. Yes, I was previously runing 511's and got recommended to switch to 471's, I took some photos and measurements of the tyre shape when I swapped over, i'll try to find them, but essentially the same tyre is a bit more "round" than a 30mm rim, which I prefer, It leans into corners better and I find gives better cornering traction, but has slightly worse braking traction overall (all anecdotal without actual testing). A lot of DH racers still use 25mm rims, in particular the Specialized team, I've heard they prefer the tyre profile being rounder. I honestly think...
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I actually had the same thought! In my coffee cup example, I'm pushing on the top and bottom, but when you sit on a wheel, you're only applying force to the bottom of the rim. So why are spokes at the top of the rim losing tension, too? I don't know, but here's my guess- because they're diametrically opposed to...

Primoz Liked a reply to forum topic John Hall (Gwin's Mechanic) on Spoke Tension

4/7/2023 3:45pm
Hoop stress. The same way a very thin soda can can hold multiple atmospheres of pressure when you shake it but it dents easily when you push on it with your finger. The finger is the unlaced wheel. Good point on the few local spokes getting detensioned, but the neighbouring ones being tensioned more though. Didn't think about that one. Currently my intuition would be that the neighbouring spokes only cover the deformation itself. You still have the outside force to deal with, which would be spread over the top spokes. But I'm not 100 % sure that is actually...
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Hey Primoz, if you go to the Park Tool video I linked to, at 3:07 you can see their spoke tension map that shows the top and bottom spokes both losing tension as they sit on the bike. It's the spokes on the sides that gain tension, because the rim is flexing in at the bottom from rider weight and...

TheSuspensionLabNZ Liked a reply to forum topic John Hall (Gwin's Mechanic) on Spoke Tension

4/7/2023 2:41pm
Great explanation/demonstration! The cool thing about wheels is the way they distribute the load around a large section of the rim, with the bottom spokes reducing in tension/length and the spokes either side increasing in tension. You can kind of see the evidence of this in a very broken wheel - if you look either side of a very flatspotted or cracked rim you will often see splits or stress marks around the nipples where the spokes have tried to pull through.
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Big Bird Liked a reply to forum topic Intense 951 XC

4/7/2023 2:00pm
Some of them were Complete builds, meaning the frame in one box and the components in another. So, all the adjustments. But most were standard one box builds with primarily derailleur adjustments and proper torques. Yetis come as frame and parts too. So your LBS does a complete pro build on every one.
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mxtech1 Liked a reply to forum topic Intense 951 XC

4/7/2023 1:59pm
After ordering the bike a few weeks ago, finally found a couple evenings to get it put together! I ended up ordering an "open box" model, which was $300 off MSRP, and everything was in perfect condition when it arrived. Assembly was pretty straight forward, as it was mostly just bolting on the wheels, bars, attaching the derailleur, and adjusting controls. Fit and finish on everything was really nice. Really like the Intense tool kit that came with it as well! Although I already have quite the assortment of tools from wrenching on motorcycles for many years, it was just...
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Sonofbovril2 Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

4/7/2023 1:12pm
Anyone know anything about this BrakeAce thingamajig on Sam’s Crestline? Nevermind, found this: https://bikerumor.com/brakeace-brake-sensors/ Ps. Not affiliated in any way, just curious as to what it is
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