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ballz Liked a reply to forum topic E-MTBs That Are Also E-Motos - What's Going to Happen?
6/17/2025 11:59pm
Mandate that all ebikes make acoustic noise similar to electric cars, so they'll be easy to tell apart from bikes and won't startle others like even the e-mopeds do.
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iRider Liked a reply to forum topic E-MTBs That Are Also E-Motos - What's Going to Happen?
6/17/2025 11:59pm
So how does this behaviour differ from e-motos poaching MTB trails? If e-bikes are not allowed and nobody obeys the rule, so why should e-moto users? It is a user and not a classification problem.
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iRider Liked a reply to forum topic E-MTBs That Are Also E-Motos - What's Going to Happen?
6/17/2025 11:59pm
Why does your view on what should be allowed on the trails conveniently aligns with what you have decided for yourself to use? A hiker would argue that no bikes should be on the trails because they all destroy them. In reality, it depends on the area, the soil type and type of trail how much it is affected by the different types of usage. That is harder to control, but common sense by the users should prevail. I know some legal-to-bike-on trails that I would not ride with a normal bike in the winter because of the damage that...
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iRider Liked a reply to forum topic E-MTBs That Are Also E-Motos - What's Going to Happen?
6/15/2025 10:22am
I hope that you are aware of the fact that a lot of the alpine roads and paths were open to offroad motorcycle use until not too long ago. A lot of the old military roads still are, e.g. in the Lake Garda region. The lighter ones of the emotos are 50 kg and their geometry is not as slack as the e-moppeds that identify as bicycles. They are surprisingly nimble and, in the right hands, can climb better than a pedelec as you can use your feet to stabilize the bike and don't need your cranks to serve as...
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t-stoff Added a reply to E-MTBs That Are Also E-Motos - What's Going to Happen?
6/14/2025 11:35am "leopard ate my face" vibes. * and it doesn't stop here. we now have proper motorcycle brands already in the ""mtb"" business, its just a matter of time before they step up to surron and build competition. it was more than obvious that the "ebike" thing was just a way to get a ton of companies to get in an...
MJT420 Liked a reply to forum topic E-MTBs That Are Also E-Motos - What's Going to Happen?
6/14/2025 11:16am
A lot of people have already hit on it, but it boils down to users on higher powered ebikes not willing to play by any rules or do any work to ensure their own access because poaching is so much easier at the moment. Problem being I really don't see surron owners or others trying to build their own trails or paying for rock armored berms or jumps for "shared" trails. As a person who has only really ever rode mountain bikes I don't want to take on the shared responsibility of trails with electric motos like surrons as a...
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bizutch Liked a reply to forum topic E-MTBs That Are Also E-Motos - What's Going to Happen?
6/13/2025 7:49am
If electric motors made the same sounds as gas motors, the treatment of an electric motor would be the same. I've yet to understand why having a motor that makes whirring sounds instead of putting or brapping sounds is somehow any different. It's like telling me you can drive your Tesla or golf cart on the sidewalk because it's quiet.
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bizutch Liked a reply to forum topic E-MTBs That Are Also E-Motos - What's Going to Happen?
6/13/2025 7:48am
Exactly. E-bikes give e-motos a "justification" to fokk around on trail. Both kinds of toys will always end up getting access for ALL wheels shut down. But reading the comments, I see the pattern that every person commenting here has that one special exception to do wrong by all because of their circumstance. Every post I read is a "I/We need/want..." and then they break laws, tresspass & find their own little grey area. History says if it has 2 wheels and causes problems...remove 2 wheels from the area. Here's my take on e-bikes & e-motos. They should be separate...
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Hammond4130 Liked a reply to forum topic E-MTBs That Are Also E-Motos - What's Going to Happen?
6/13/2025 7:46am
I think we missed the boat.. All bikes with throttles whether MTN or Road/commuter bikes (thats you RAD POWER) should have been classified as Mopeds. You need to register it and have a plate. Maybe not a Driver license but at least made street legal.. But as i said at the start, the boat has left the dock. There are too many DIY kits along with many other brands making these machines. Nothing will happen on the laws until someone gets seriously hurt. Just like the dog walker with 6 dogs on a Bike only trail yesterday. He knew he...
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mfoga Liked a reply to forum topic E-MTBs That Are Also E-Motos - What's Going to Happen?
6/13/2025 7:44am
I don’t see the hate for responsible use but that’s not what happens a lot. Having some dude run up on you at 20mph on a climb trying to push past you because they are a holes deserves all the hate. Look at skypark they had to add signs all over place because there were problems and even added a climb for e-bikes but most refuse to use it because it’s harder and eats up battery. There are plenty of reasons to hate even the class 1 but it’s not the bike it’s the people who ride them.
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bizutch Liked a reply to forum topic E-MTBs That Are Also E-Motos - What's Going to Happen?
6/13/2025 7:43am
One of the guys in the pic below threatened to shoot a cyclist few weeks back. You guys wanted Pandora's Box opened. I grew up gaining permission from other land owners to ride with their kids on bicycles then motos. Anywhere we took a bike, a moto poached & did not care if we got kicked out. Anywhere we were permitted to ride 2 wheels (usually just swapping out at each others property if we each had a bike), motos would poach & not care. E-bikes are just the bastard child of both categories. Making them dead silent thanks to...
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t-stoff Added a reply to 2025 Team Rumors
12/18/2024 7:21am I think GT had great stuff on the late 90s and long after Richard passed away as well. Still in the 90s, STS and Zaskar that had a ton of success, 2000's the i-drive, late 2014+s the Sanctions beast that shaped enduro, Forces and Sensors that won so many races, not to mentioned the released of the gravel Grade 10...
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12/18/2024 6:22am
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NJPA Rider Liked a reply to forum topic 2025 Team Rumors
12/17/2024 11:53pm
The Grade is an awesome bike! I'm not believing this rumor till I hear it from Wyn. He was just on a podcast talking about how well things are going.
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hogfly Liked a reply to forum topic 2025 Team Rumors
12/17/2024 11:53pm
Heartbreaking news on GT. My son's first bike hookup and "support" was from GT. They are such a tight-knit crew (the actual people that work there). Steve Spencer (Coach), who Phil mentions, is one of the most beloved and well-liked people in the bike scene by anyone who has ever met him. Just a fantastic person and a genuinely caring guy who I know is hurting right now. We haven't worked with GT in a couple of years, but my wife and son were both really, really bummed when I just broke the news to them because that group of...
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t-stoff Added a reply to Early Mountain Bike Movies from VHS and DVD
11/29/2024 10:37am I still have a ton of those songs in my bike riding playlist ;D
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