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I'm down to listen to a Jeff-on-Jeff podcast

Thanks. Apologies to how badly that post needed an editor prior to posting. If you suffered through the reading of it, I appreciate it. I'll do better pausing before posting next go! Those asking about Intense, it'd be a worthwhile deep dive to try and detail their history. Honestly, that'd probalby require talking to employees and even Jeff himself. I have dreams of doing "Acquired" style podcasts about these companies, being there is a lot of cool history and story behind all of them. I think they still have a great shot but will have to buckle down. Their bikes...

I'm getting really close to locking this thread.

Yes, it is a side quest. I encourage you to start your own thread on this one. I'll happily contribute, but its way too far off the beaten path for us to get into...here.

New post up on the whole YT situation. Thanks to a sleuth-y VitalMTB member, financials were found (up until 2022). Huge shoutout...but I want to make sure he wants the shoutout first! Substack My Blog My Super Ugly Windows 98 Themed Blog (reader beware)

Hot tip: skip ahead to 58:55 for a hilarious angry/emo/edgelord Spomer story. Jason and I didn't even know he could get angry.

I use the frame storage bags and then mash a piece of grout sponge in there under the door. Keeps everything from rattling around.

Shockingly clear explanation. My apologies to everyone for this helpful but nonetheless off-topic diversion.

Sometimes having a safe place where you can fling poop at the wall, see what sticks and have other people admire the smell of said poop can be very beneficial. I for one enjoy the posts even if a lot of it goes over my head and even if you say you have delivery problems. It's a style, it's probably unique and that makes it cool. Keep going at it. If you'll see to be rambling here, maybe it will clear your train of though and make the delivery that much crisper where and when it really matters.

As a fellow nerd with one foot in corporate finance and another in the mtb world, just want to say I love this thread.

Hey everyone, not mad at anyone in this thread (besides maybe myself). I clearly have ideas and a delivery style that probably isn’t ideal for a mountain bike forum. Robot wrote a genuinely great post (he’s a better writer than me), and I realized there was no way for me to counter it. Not because I didn’t have anything to say, but because I started turning into this (actual photo Tucker took of me this morning): Any frustration you see from me is with myself, not anyone else. I like friction. I like debate. What I don’t like is knowing...

Sure hope Jeff comes back. Completely agree a forum is a tough place to debate this type of stuff (especially when we're all just speculating with very little info), but I thought we were doing a pretty good job! If any of you guys are going to be in Whistler for Crankworx, I'm down to debate over some beers!

I don't have a horse in this race other than being very sad if Jeff stops posting his type of posts, and interacting with all of us in reply to help us along. It seems to me Jeff's posts were (are) nearly universally loved here, there's a reason I started jokingly referring to this thread as "bike industry talk and lessons in finance with Jeff". It would be a different landscape without Jeff and I hope he reconsiders.

Jeff, thank you for your insightful contributions on here, they are much appreciated. As someone who was out of work for a while due to the bike industry implosion it has been great to get a deeper understanding of the global and organisational factors that resulted in me and many of my colleagues finding ourselves out of work. It's been useful to rationalise the personal lived experience against some objective analysis from yourself and others. While I'm now working in a different industry I can see a lot of similar factors at play here and have my eyes open to...

Hey Jeff, I'm so sorry that my forum post bummed you out so much. It sounds like you want to stop posting on Vital entirely based on what I wrote. I'm so sorry it was so disrespectful. I have really appreciated your insights and analysis, and I think everyone has, and this bike industry forum in particular has been like a mini "intro to finance course" over the last 3 years based on everything you and other people (who know way more about this stuff than me) have contributed. Rereading what I wrote, I can see how my words may...