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There are a few reasons why we haven't done crowns. 1. To be honest unless you go really wild with offset, it's an adjustment you get used to and no longer feel. I've gone back and forth between 50 mm offsets on my trail bikes to match my DH bike and then 44 mm offset on my DH bike to match my trail bike and found it takes less than a day to get accustomed to the change. I actually spoke with the guy who did the Outsider adjustable crowns about this and he had the same experience. So to...

Does that groupset not do the job? Would you prefer the bike to be more expensive with a groupset released last year that accomplishes the exact same thing? I love how as a community we complain that novices by bike by the derailleur model, and then we also complain about derailleur models.

I think the only reason a 29" 58 does not exist is called Freeride

Cascade Components has the opportunity to do something hysterical here.

For simplicities sake I'll be using the king crab's pricing from this site: https://fishmanmkt.com/pages/market-prices WeAreOne: 39.53 lbs - $1976.10 Intense: 41.8 lbs lbs - $2089.58 Greg's Norco: 45.15 lbs - $2257.04 Gracie's Norco: 43.28 lbs - $2163.56 Transition: 39.37 lbs - $1968.10 Trek: 42.57 lbs - $2128.92 Giant: 39.29 lbs - $1964.10 Crestline - 39.88 lbs - $1993.60 Atherton - 40.32 lbs - $2015.59 Gamux - 44.62 lbs - $2230.55 Pivot - 36.38 lbs - $1818.63 Personally I'd love to pay crab pricing rather than the pricing we have now. Which of these athletes would consider trading to me their...

god I love the f*ck out of the forum.

I for one welcome our new crustacean overlords. TEAM CRAB

Consistent low anti rise is not something I like.

Not sure if this was caught by anyone else, but Open might have just leaked some details on a new Shimano derailleur while promoting a new gravel frame of theirs? https://opencycle.com/blog/new-direction-for-up-and-upper

Seat tube looks more like one of a dedicated dh bike

VPP magic pedalling it around? V2 Hightowers I see in my riding group all bob like crazy and everybody switches the shock platform on when it's time to go up. Or did you mean something else by magic? Regarding the Transition (if it looks like a duck...), the seattube is hella bent and low insertion length, unlike what the Sentinel has:

No? The mount is just sunken into the frame.

"We know our e-bike customers don't care or even know what VPP is so here's a bike that says SANTA CRUZ on it." (Am I too cynical?)

Brought up the shadows a bit:

I wish trunnion mount shocks be gone, too.

I love to complain and I'm a robot.